Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I would be interested in knowing what lab this is. Report in minutes, that is interesting. Thanks Darlene happyruiam <happyru@...> wrote: I just found a Test Lab located located very close to me. I had my husband take the Tape in and I should have a report within mins, and if I want they can upload the report to the web and I can print it out. How easy is that??? contact me for info. I just took a Mold test kit to my co-worker plus 2 baggies and some > clear 1 inch tape. I didn't open the test kit to read instructions. Can > someone tell me what the instructions are for the petrie dish for > ProLab? AND also I was about 12 ft from the room where the Mold " WAS " > and was there about 10 mins. and by the time I got home 10 mins max. I > broke out in a huge bright red rash with blisters under my left > breast!!! I'm on fire!!! I washed really well with vinigar and put a > cold washrag compress on it. OUCH..... > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 If you don't mind me asking, how much did he charge you for this testing. And, so this was just microscopic analysis, am I correct. What kind of Chaetomium? Darlene happyruiam <happyru@...> wrote: I had my husband tkae the 2 samples of Tape into a lab close to me. I had my co-worker also set out a petrie dish for an hour last night for collection. The lab just called and reported to me that the Tape lift was Chaetomium. 5 mins after I hung up the phone, the lab called back...it was the anylist himself calling, in somewhat of a concerned voice, he asked if I had the petrie dish anywhere close to me since I had mentioned it to the first person that called and how sick I was. I told him it was in a covered dish in a plastic bag, and bless his heart he sounded relieved, as he went WHEW, Ok Thats Good! how sweet he called back to check on me. He then said I could bring the petrie dish to them and they could finish growing it out for me and add that to my report, which is on a legal form. the young man () and I had a nice convo and he said he had books at the lab if I wanted to review them. He also said he has seen many sick people due to MOLD. I told him to be very carefull in doing his work and he assured me that he was... the sample was dropped off at around 12 noon and I had a report back 4 hours and 4 mins later. I > just took a Mold test kit to my co-worker plus 2 baggies and some > > clear 1 inch tape. I didn't open the test kit to read > instructions. Can > > someone tell me what the instructions are for the petrie dish for > > ProLab? AND also I was about 12 ft from the room where the > Mold " WAS " > > and was there about 10 mins. and by the time I got home 10 mins > max. I > > broke out in a huge bright red rash with blisters under my left > > breast!!! I'm on fire!!! I washed really well with vinigar and put > a > > cold washrag compress on it. OUCH..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Gail, Good Job!! No, Great job! That took a lot of effort on your part I'm sure to get those samples. I am so glad you founmd a good lab and some one who cares thats doing your testing. I hope you rest easy tonioght, youe deserve it Warm Regards a happyruiam <happyru@...> wrote: He charged $50.00 for 2 seperate baggie, 3inch long clear tape specimens and he also said if I bring the petrie dish in he would include that in with the same chain-of-custody along with hopefully more definet info and present me with a total legal document. I thought that was exceptional, and also remarkably exceptional, was his concern and personal attention to the possible dangers of immediate health. If it's OK with KC and I have his permission, I can reccomend them and post their HTTP I > > just took a Mold test kit to my co-worker plus 2 baggies and some > > > clear 1 inch tape. I didn't open the test kit to read > > instructions. Can > > > someone tell me what the instructions are for the petrie dish > for > > > ProLab? AND also I was about 12 ft from the room where the > > Mold " WAS " > > > and was there about 10 mins. and by the time I got home 10 mins > > max. I > > > broke out in a huge bright red rash with blisters under my left > > > breast!!! I'm on fire!!! I washed really well with vinigar and > put > > a > > > cold washrag compress on it. OUCH..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Barb, Pro-lab picked up the Mucor here, amongst other molds. Darlene barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: I'll tell you what I remember from using them myself. I've used alot of them but I haven't read the instructions in about a year, and I have my own 'add on' things I do. I take culture dish into room I am testing. I don't open it or prepare it in different room. I quickly pour liquid into dish and put lid back on. It has to sit for about an hour to set up. You can let it sit longer than that but at least an hour. Now you have to decide placement. If its a room I use alot, I put about where I sit or where my head is, as close as possible to where my freq exposure would be and take lid off. Be sure to put LID so that it is will not ALSO collect mold or particles too, facing down. It says to time it for an hour. Write down time and place and exact time it was exposed when done. You need to creat AT LEAST what would mimic a 'normal amount' or turbulence to the air or MORE, or mold spores there may stay SETTLED if room air is very quiet, no people in it, no furnace running. If forced air, you can turn the fan to 'on'/'constant on', rather than auto. If no forced air, you may need to be creative, fan on low. I've held it in my hand and walked around with it but that can get tedious for an hour!!! I hold them myself for a week and look at results myself. You usually see something growing in 2-3 days if you caught any but professionals here say that some mold may take longer, so I keep it longer if not much grows. Also you should know ProLab uses one type of culture that only will detect a specific range of molds, so all molds will not be detected. It just gives you an idea of 'moldiness' of room. If you suspect mold for other reason, you should use other type of tests to determine or other types of culture plates. Dallas Environmental clinic in Dallas uses a different media that ProLab and I get different result from the Dallas plates, and usually a higher count. Their media they say is targeted for molds that cause health effects. For example, ProLab didn't pick up any 'mucor sp' in my house which can cause systemic infection in immune deficient people but the Dallas plates picked up a high count. Apparently frequent spot it is found is horse hair and I am LITERALLY surrounded by horsehair in this old house: all plaster made the old fashioned way with horsehair backing and all floors carpeted with horsehair padding underneath. So ProLab plate didn't tell me that. Someone here gave me an idea to put over cold air return...perhaps Carl? That will catch more mold since air is being pulled into the cold air return. I ALWAYS put one over the cold air return/s to get picture of overall condition of air in general and put one in specific rooms to give me an idea of what the air is like in places I frequent the most. Some here take take the grill off of cold air return and pick the dust up inside of cold air return with scotch tape and send that off for analysis. You hardly ever dust inside the cold air return so this is excellent location, so this is probably excellent way to test. I never send the plate off to ProLab for analysis since there is mixed review on quality of results, so I just use them to get an idea. I hope this helps. Consider: Many people here don't like ProLab, I'm no expert, and I have not read the other posts, so if anything here is a repeat, excuse me. > > I just took a Mold test kit to my co-worker plus 2 baggies and some > clear 1 inch tape. I didn't open the test kit to read instructions. Can > someone tell me what the instructions are for the petrie dish for > ProLab? AND also I was about 12 ft from the room where the Mold " WAS " > and was there about 10 mins. and by the time I got home 10 mins max. I > broke out in a huge bright red rash with blisters under my left > breast!!! I'm on fire!!! I washed really well with vinigar and put a > cold washrag compress on it. OUCH..... > --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Group, The reason Barb is getting useful results (for her) is she doesn't take just 1 or 2 samples and conclude the whole house is safe or not safe. She developed her own set of consistent procedures to develop additional information, not definitive data. Twenty plus years ago when I first started sampling, the labs didn't exist like they do today. I developed a method with one of the local labs. We both knew it wouldn't provide analytical (exact) data but we experimented to find a set of consistent procedures so we could compare data from one place to another. Even that had huge variables and room for error. But it provided a comparative database with some useful information. As soon as Aerotech, P & K and EmLab started going I switched to them. But I had to create a whole new baseline for my comparative database. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > I'll tell you what I remember from using them myself. I've used alot > of them but I haven't read the instructions in about a year, and I have > my own 'add on' things I do. > I take culture dish into room I am testing. I don't open it or prepare > it in different room. I quickly pour liquid into dish and put lid back > on. It has to sit for about an hour to set up. You can let it sit > longer than that but at least an hour. > Now you have to decide placement. If its a room I use alot, I put > about where I sit or where my head is, as close as possible to where my > freq exposure would be and take lid off. Be sure to put LID so that it > is will not ALSO collect mold or particles too, facing down. It says > to time it for an hour. Write down time and place and exact time it > was exposed when done. > You need to creat AT LEAST what would mimic a 'normal amount' or > turbulence to the air or MORE, or mold spores there may stay SETTLED if > room air is very quiet, no people in it, no furnace running. If forced > air, you can turn the fan to 'on'/'constant on', rather than auto. If > no forced air, you may need to be creative, fan on low. I've held it > in my hand and walked around with it but that can get tedious for an > hour!!! > I hold them myself for a week and look at results myself. You usually > see something growing in 2-3 days if you caught any but professionals > here say that some mold may take longer, so I keep it longer if not > much grows. Also you should know ProLab uses one type of culture that > only will detect a specific range of molds, so all molds will not be > detected. It just gives you an idea of 'moldiness' of room. If you > suspect mold for other reason, you should use other type of tests to > determine or other types of culture plates. Dallas Environmental > clinic in Dallas uses a different media that ProLab and I get different > result from the Dallas plates, and usually a higher count. Their media > they say is targeted for molds that cause health effects. For example, > ProLab didn't pick up any 'mucor sp' in my house which can cause > systemic infection in immune deficient people but the Dallas plates > picked up a high count. Apparently frequent spot it is found is horse > hair and I am LITERALLY surrounded by horsehair in this old house: all > plaster made the old fashioned way with horsehair backing and all > floors carpeted with horsehair padding underneath. So ProLab plate > didn't tell me that. > Someone here gave me an idea to put over cold air return...perhaps > Carl? That will catch more mold since air is being pulled into the > cold air return. > I ALWAYS put one over the cold air return/s to get picture of overall > condition of air in general and put one in specific rooms to give me an > idea of what the air is like in places I frequent the most. > Some here take take the grill off of cold air return and pick the dust > up inside of cold air return with scotch tape and send that off for > analysis. You hardly ever dust inside the cold air return so this is > excellent location, so this is probably excellent way to test. > I never send the plate off to ProLab for analysis since there is mixed > review on quality of results, so I just use them to get an idea. > I hope this helps. > Consider: Many people here don't like ProLab, I'm no expert, and I have > not read the other posts, so if anything here is a repeat, excuse me. > > > > > > I just took a Mold test kit to my co-worker plus 2 baggies and some > > clear 1 inch tape. I didn't open the test kit to read instructions. > Can > > someone tell me what the instructions are for the petrie dish for > > ProLab? AND also I was about 12 ft from the room where the Mold " WAS " > > and was there about 10 mins. and by the time I got home 10 mins max. > I > > broke out in a huge bright red rash with blisters under my left > > breast!!! I'm on fire!!! I washed really well with vinigar and put a > > cold washrag compress on it. OUCH..... > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Happyrulam, If your workplace is making you ill and they won't fix it you need to get out and look for another job. Don't subject yourself to abuse that way. On Jan 6, 2008 12:53 AM, happyruiam <happyru@...> wrote: > The Health Department DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) > Cal-OSHA DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) > Hospital Licensing Board DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) > My Congress Person DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) > AND MY EMPLOYER = I just can't find the words to describe the disgust > And whomever else I contacted and was shot down... just dispicable > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 It IS dispicable. That's why we're all here - working to understand what has happened to us and to get the word out. And we scramble as best we can, and when I run out of steam, I pray that all of our work is busy helping to fuel a transformation that feels like it's coming. Doug Haney says we're in for a good surprise out of Sacramento in the coming week... I'm very excited. ;-) ~Haley happyruiam <happyru@...> wrote: So, I asked my co-worker to do the tape lift in and around where the wall was replaced and known to have ...and I'll say once again A HUGE GROWTH of MOLD. He and I both saw it at the same time... he was the one who pulled back the cabinet. with all of the " KNOWN FACTS " surronding this MOLD... which was Water Damage CAUSED BY a Toilet Overflow and I say again MANY TIMES ...it soaked into the wall over years time!! I used a lab thats very close to me and I have no reason to doubt their findings. I have the Petrie Dish and the sample was prepared in the same room and left to sit out for an hour, this was on Thursday and I already see growth. I feel very confident in any answer I get back as they ARE an Accredited LAB. As you can all imagine, if any of you know about Chaetomium, as I have just recently read and learned..it's right up there with the worst, and all my co-workers that have died... and with me stuck in the middle, It's not too comforting... with the rest of my co-workers are working STILL in that room. It just breaks my heart to know that they are exposed and I'm not able to stop it. The Health Department DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) Cal-OSHA DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) Hospital Licensing Board DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) My Congress Person DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) AND MY EMPLOYER = I just can't find the words to describe the disgust And whomever else I contacted and was shot down... just dispicable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 It's sad, frustrating, criminal, reckless,unacceptable, behavior for a hospital no less. To expose its personnel, patients, and anybody else going into that area. The good news is you figured it out and your doing something about it. The bad news you got sick and I'm sure others have suffered as well. I hope you are able to shine one big light on the problem so that others don't have to go through all that you have been through. It takes someone with a strong heart and a little will power to help make a change. I think your that someone. Were with you Gail. a happyruiam <happyru@...> wrote: So, I asked my co-worker to do the tape lift in and around where the wall was replaced and known to have ...and I'll say once again A HUGE GROWTH of MOLD. He and I both saw it at the same time... he was the one who pulled back the cabinet. with all of the " KNOWN FACTS " surronding this MOLD... which was Water Damage CAUSED BY a Toilet Overflow and I say again MANY TIMES ...it soaked into the wall over years time!! I used a lab thats very close to me and I have no reason to doubt their findings. I have the Petrie Dish and the sample was prepared in the same room and left to sit out for an hour, this was on Thursday and I already see growth. I feel very confident in any answer I get back as they ARE an Accredited LAB. As you can all imagine, if any of you know about Chaetomium, as I have just recently read and learned..it's right up there with the worst, and all my co-workers that have died... and with me stuck in the middle, It's not too comforting... with the rest of my co-workers are working STILL in that room. It just breaks my heart to know that they are exposed and I'm not able to stop it. The Health Department DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) Cal-OSHA DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) Hospital Licensing Board DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) My Congress Person DOESN'T CARE = (BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS) AND MY EMPLOYER = I just can't find the words to describe the disgust And whomever else I contacted and was shot down... just dispicable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Unfortunately, it won't get any better because there are no funds for anything but war. We're totally indebted to China for these wars. In almost every way we've become a 3rd world country: in education, in technology, financially and more. The big corporations (the few that still exist here) rule and they won't allow medical breakthroughs that would put a dent in their huge profits. The middle class is quickly disappearing. Barth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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