Health effects of nonindustrial indoor air pollution J Bernstein et al.

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

Happy New Year! There is a new paper soon to be published within the JACI.

On can read it online if you register for free with the JACI. I think we

have gotten thru to the allergists/immunologists that they have been fed a

bunch

of hooey regarding the implausibility of poisoning from indoor microbial

toxin exposure.

Relevant sentences being share with the allergists in the new paper that

dispel the myth:

" Acute effects, such as lung inflammation and hemorrhagic exudates in the

alveolar lumina, have been

shown in animal studies using high doses of mycotoxin-containing spores.

Although a recent review by the United States Institute of Medicine concluded

that in vitro and in vivo studies suggest biological plausibility between S

chartarum exposure and health effects, more extensive research is needed to

clarify this highly controversial area. "

As opposed to the myth of ACOEM:

" Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in

animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the inhalation

route

of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely at

best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. "

This is half the battle right here! For the AAAAI/JACI to acknowledge and

dispel this myth, is a huge step in the right direction for those who are

seriously ill but have been shunned by the medical community. It is also a

major

step that they are teaching the allergists to look at indoor pollutants in

general as a possible cause of illness.

Sharon Kramer

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

[Guest guest]

Here's a PubMed Link to the article abstract:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18155285?dopt=Abstract

snk1955@... wrote:

Dear All,

Happy New Year! There is a new paper soon to be published within the JACI.

On can read it online if you register for free with the JACI. I think we

have gotten thru to the allergists/immunologists that they have been fed a bunch

of hooey regarding the implausibility of poisoning from indoor microbial

toxin exposure.

Relevant sentences being share with the allergists in the new paper that

dispel the myth:

" Acute effects, such as lung inflammation and hemorrhagic exudates in the

alveolar lumina, have been

shown in animal studies using high doses of mycotoxin-containing spores.

Although a recent review by the United States Institute of Medicine concluded

that in vitro and in vivo studies suggest biological plausibility between S

chartarum exposure and health effects, more extensive research is needed to

clarify this highly controversial area. "

As opposed to the myth of ACOEM:

" Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in

animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the inhalation

route

of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely at

best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. "

This is half the battle right here! For the AAAAI/JACI to acknowledge and

dispel this myth, is a huge step in the right direction for those who are

seriously ill but have been shunned by the medical community. It is also a major

step that they are teaching the allergists to look at indoor pollutants in

general as a possible cause of illness.

Sharon Kramer

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

[Guest guest]

wow, that is a big step in the right direction,yeah@, thanks girls---

In , Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> Here's a PubMed Link to the article abstract:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18155285?dopt=Abstract

>

>

> snk1955@... wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Happy New Year! There is a new paper soon to be published within

the JACI.

> On can read it online if you register for free with the JACI. I

think we

> have gotten thru to the allergists/immunologists that they have

been fed a bunch

> of hooey regarding the implausibility of poisoning from indoor

microbial

> toxin exposure.

>

> Relevant sentences being share with the allergists in the new paper

that

> dispel the myth:

>

>

>

> " Acute effects, such as lung inflammation and hemorrhagic exudates

in the

> alveolar lumina, have been

> shown in animal studies using high doses of mycotoxin-containing

spores.

> Although a recent review by the United States Institute of Medicine

concluded

> that in vitro and in vivo studies suggest biological plausibility

between S

> chartarum exposure and health effects, more extensive research is

needed to

> clarify this highly controversial area. "

>

>

> As opposed to the myth of ACOEM:

>

> " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data

in

> animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the

inhalation route

> of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly

unlikely at

> best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. "

>

>

> This is half the battle right here! For the AAAAI/JACI to

acknowledge and

> dispel this myth, is a huge step in the right direction for those

who are

> seriously ill but have been shunned by the medical community. It is

also a major

> step that they are teaching the allergists to look at indoor

pollutants in

> general as a possible cause of illness.

>

> Sharon Kramer

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

[Guest guest]

Reading this reminds me that a few days ago it was on the news that a

certain manufacturer of dog food was to pay millions of dollars in

lawsuit against them for death of dogs by mold in their food. Noone

seem to question that mold in food could cause death, and this defies

logic of course that eating mold could possibly be more lethal than

inhaling it, since inhaled substances go right into the blood,

whereas food has to go past a digestive system designed to keep

pathogens out.

>

> Dear All,

>

> Happy New Year! There is a new paper soon to be published within

the JACI.

> On can read it online if you register for free with the JACI. I

think we

> have gotten thru to the allergists/immunologists that they have

been fed a bunch

> of hooey regarding the implausibility of poisoning from indoor

microbial

> toxin exposure.

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

When that story actually came out THEY WERE FALLING OVER THEMSELVES to

avoid mentioning

that it was mold that was killing those pets. It was comical watching

the media try to step around it.

The web sites of pet owners and vets that forced the issue out into

the open were saying " aflatoxin " but

the TV news? NOT AT ALL. The New York Times and a few other good

papers did mention it but in small print.

I guess they didn't want people to be alarmed.

Now, of course, they are admitting it... and trying to make up for it.

(not that money can bring a pet back.)

BTW, the expoures are different. Eating something is a route in which

you can get a LOT of something in

a short amount of time. Breathing you may only be getting a few

thousands of a gram of actual toxin each day..

in tiny particles, as you say, that sometimes go right to where the

air hits the blood..but the way your body reacts

can be different because it is trying to stay in a defensive state

continuously.

Like trying to stay up 24 hours a day in wartime, so you wont get killed..

It can be over months or even years. The body reacts differently to

exposure through the throat or lungs or skin than it does through the

gut. Actually, a lot of what you breathe does end up in the gut, if

the cleaning mechanisms in your lungs get it out.

But they get literally paralyzed by some mods, like. stachybotrys.

On Jan 8, 2008 9:28 PM, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

> Reading this reminds me that a few days ago it was on the news that a

> certain manufacturer of dog food was to pay millions of dollars in

> lawsuit against them for death of dogs by mold in their food. Noone

> seem to question that mold in food could cause death, and this defies

> logic of course that eating mold could possibly be more lethal than

> inhaling it, since inhaled substances go right into the blood,

> whereas food has to go past a digestive system designed to keep

> pathogens out.

>

>

>

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Happy New Year! There is a new paper soon to be published within

> the JACI.

> > On can read it online if you register for free with the JACI. I

> think we

> > have gotten thru to the allergists/immunologists that they have

> been fed a bunch

> > of hooey regarding the implausibility of poisoning from indoor

> microbial

> > toxin exposure.

> >

>

>