Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Sharon, I am a former teacher and was sick for yrs. before finding out what was wrong. I took allergy shots for almost 3 yrs. which didn't help at all and actually made me worse. Every week I would get a shot my arm would get red, warm/hot, itch and many times swell. Dr. told me it was normal but would make me wait almost 1/2 hr. before leaving his office! I have been under Dr. Shoemaker's care since Dec. 03 and haven't had an allergy shot since Feb. 04. Since then I have had no allergy problems, sore throats, sinus problems or even a common cold. No allergy meds or shots at all!!!!! Most of my neurological problems are also gone. I still suffer from fatigue but nothing like it was and my short term memory is shot. I'm not a Dr. but if your daughter has been exposed and you think she could possibly be sick I would not recommend them. Just my opinion. If she were mine I wouldn't do it but would recommend the VCS test. Sue I brought my daughter to an allergist today that was recently voted one of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me the article that Joe recommended and it said he had read it. I told him that there were two types of reactions to mold and I mentioned HLA-DR markers. I mentioned I was totally disabled due to mold exposure and that mold releases mycotoxins. He agreed but said it was not his area. My daughter was not sick today and he wanted to give me prescriptions for her but I said I did not need them and should she get sick again I would consider using them. Then he mentioned immunotherapy with mold. I said politely no thanks. What do you think about immunotherapy for mold. If my daughter was the genotype (and she has a 50/50 chance) that cannot filter the toxins wouldn't this therapy be toxic for her? Sharon Hanson **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Actually, depending on your markers. as I have just found out that I have 2 bio-markers, which automatically gives my children 1. Also if both parents have marker So there could be 100% chance she has it. my daughter is sick as well, sorry to here about yours. She is doing better thou from treatment. I highly recommend Dr Gray. He is great with Kids. Regards a Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: I brought my daughter to an allergist today that was recently voted one of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me the article that Joe recommended and it said he had read it. I told him that there were two types of reactions to mold and I mentioned HLA-DR markers. I mentioned I was totally disabled due to mold exposure and that mold releases mycotoxins. He agreed but said it was not his area. My daughter was not sick today and he wanted to give me prescriptions for her but I said I did not need them and should she get sick again I would consider using them. Then he mentioned immunotherapy with mold. I said politely no thanks. What do you think about immunotherapy for mold. If my daughter was the genotype (and she has a 50/50 chance) that cannot filter the toxins wouldn't this therapy be toxic for her? Sharon Hanson --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Thanks Sue and a, I'm so glad I found this website it is such a good resource. Sue did you say you're short term memory is shot. I have the same problem and I was hoping it would get better. I'm under the care of Kolb, MD. She has worked with Dr. Shoemaker to develop the protocol for women who have implants that grew mold. I had a clip/marker in my breasts but did not have implants. I went to her because she knew about mold growing in the body. I have only been under her treatment since September 27,2007. Not very long but I am seeing good results. I was originally exposed from a medical procedure and then from a sick building of a fortune 50 who knew they were putting employees/contractors at risk. I acquired Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency after the building exposure and this has also improved and I am off steroids but I am not better yet. I wasn't going to put her on the immunotherapy at all unless I am convinced that is the right thing to do. I trust very few doctors on this issue. As a matter of fact I trust you all more than I do most doctors. a, I found it interesting what you said about having two markers and your daughter has to have at least one of them. I didn't know that. I have the breast cancer gene mutation and was told my daughter has a 50/50 chance but it must be different with two markers. I had not thought of that. Thanks Sharon Hanson > > > Sharon, > I am a former teacher and was sick for yrs. before finding out what was > wrong. I took allergy shots for almost 3 yrs. which didn't help at all and > actually made me worse. Every week I would get a shot my arm would get red, > warm/hot, itch and many times swell. Dr. told me it was normal but would make me > wait almost 1/2 hr. before leaving his office! > I have been under Dr. Shoemaker's care since Dec. 03 and haven't had an > allergy shot since Feb. 04. Since then I have had no allergy problems, sore > throats, sinus problems or even a common cold. No allergy meds or shots at > all!!!!! Most of my neurological problems are also gone. I still suffer from > fatigue but nothing like it was and my short term memory is shot. > I'm not a Dr. but if your daughter has been exposed and you think she could > possibly be sick I would not recommend them. Just my opinion. If she were mine > I wouldn't do it but would recommend the VCS test. > > Sue > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Good words J The mold diet is on Mold-survivor.com. I folloew that with also avoiding amylose veggies. (grown underground) K J <jackiebreeze@...> wrote: I too test positive for allergy to every type of mold. About a year ago I posted a list of foods an allergist told me to avoid which included cheeses, vinegar and a list of all sorts of food that those who have mold allergies should avoid. If I can find that list, I will re post it. not eating those foods did me a world of good. I also took the allergy shots which helped me much. This was about 25 years ago and that good doctor has since retired. I tried the immunotherapy again about 2 years ago and the shots made me sick. I am thinking the different doctor must had a different kind of shot but at any rate, if I could take the shots, I would because they did help me. One thing, folks need to realize there is a world of difference between mold allergies and mold illness. Immunotherapy may help her allergy to the mold but it will not do anything for toxins she got as a result of exposure. --- Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: > I brought my daughter to an allergist today that was > recently voted one > of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me > the article that > Joe recommended and it said he had read it. > > I told him that there were two types of reactions to > mold and I > mentioned HLA-DR markers. I mentioned I was totally > disabled due to > mold exposure and that mold releases mycotoxins. He > agreed but said it > was not his area. My daughter was not sick today > and he wanted to give > me prescriptions for her but I said I did not need > them and should she > get sick again I would consider using them. Then he > mentioned > immunotherapy with mold. I said politely no thanks. > > > What do you think about immunotherapy for mold. If > my daughter was the > genotype (and she has a 50/50 chance) that cannot > filter the toxins > wouldn't this therapy be toxic for her? > > Sharon Hanson > > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I believe that there are two kinds of allergy shots. I take allergy shots which are prescribed by an environmental doctor and they help me greatly. I have been giving these shots to myself for 3 1/2 years. I do need to be retested periodically, but it's worth it because I cannot tolerate allergy medications or inhalers. I also receive treatment for health issues from toxins and fungal infection. > > I brought my daughter to an allergist today that was recently voted one of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me the article that Joe recommended and it said he had read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 J, You raise a good point here and one that I agree with you on. The funny thing is my daughter is not having allergic reactions (no runny nose, no watery eyes and no sneezing) at all. Her symptoms are not indicative of an allergic reaction but similar to a toxic one associated with the body's inability to filter toxins. She is allergic to grass but prior to finding out she was sit down mowing our lawn for an allowance without any ill effects. I'm going to err on the safe side and assume she has the genetic marker like me and not get the shots. I am also going to assume that these shots could release the mycotoxins that cause us so many problems and therefore would be detrimental to her health. Until they actually do some meaningful research in this area I think it's the prudent thing to do. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I think you are making a very wise decision for your duaghters health, and I bet its not the grass she is reacting to but the molds in the dirt. I was told at the beginning of this to avoid all gardening becuase of all the molds in dirt. K Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: J, You raise a good point here and one that I agree with you on. The funny thing is my daughter is not having allergic reactions (no runny nose, no watery eyes and no sneezing) at all. Her symptoms are not indicative of an allergic reaction but similar to a toxic one associated with the body's inability to filter toxins. She is allergic to grass but prior to finding out she was sit down mowing our lawn for an allowance without any ill effects. I'm going to err on the safe side and assume she has the genetic marker like me and not get the shots. I am also going to assume that these shots could release the mycotoxins that cause us so many problems and therefore would be detrimental to her health. Until they actually do some meaningful research in this area I think it's the prudent thing to do. Sharon --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I was told at the beginning of this to avoid all gardening becuase of all the molds in dirt. K I dont agree with this at all. mold is everywhere, gardening outside means your getting a go amount of air, not even close to breathing in a SMB. your getting exposed to molds when you walk down the produce ile at the supermarket and if you aren't washing those veggies and fruits and buying ones that aren't quite ripe yet you are eating mold. and frankly I'd be a whole lot more worried about pesticides. if you have a allergy to mold spores-myco's wear a mask or wash your sinuses. mold is in the outside air bot just in the dirt. it's like haveing house plants, dont over water, make sure you have food drainage and if your not liveing in a DMB you shouldn't have a problem. cutting grass when it's very dry means that everything that has settled out of the air well get stirred up again, with mcs this can knock you to your knees, but if it's still a little damp when you mow it you will have less if any effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Hi a and Jackie, I agree with you. The memory of my mold experiences has faded with time (starting 7 years ago). I also experienced heart palpitations from mold exposure, itself, that had nothing to do with the use of asthma inhalers. I remember thinking: " how could I be having palpitations, when its been over eight hours since I used an inhaler? " Never use a beta-adrenergic asthma inhaler (albuterol), or an anticholinergic asthma inhaler like atrovent(ipratropium bromide) if you are already having palpitations from toxic mold exposure, even if you are positive you are having an asthma attack. Go immediately to a hospital ER, (by ambulance-so you don't have to sit in the E.R. waiting room for six hours before being seen) where they will stupidly tell you to reduce your use of these inhalers, thinking that the inhalers caused your palpitations. But, at least, you will be in a place where you can be observed by doctors, in case you lose consciousness. By law, they MUST let you stay in the E.R. until you are " stable " (without palpitations). You are also correct in saying that overuse of asthma inhalers CAN cause heart palpitations, even if you are NOT experiencing a toxic mold reaction, but only an asthma reaction. That is why you are supposed to wait 2 minutes between your first inhale and your second inhale, to be sure that you do not have palpitations from your first inhale. Here is my wish that you will ALL put the memories of your mold suffering so far behind you, in your past, that you will ALL have trouble remembering the details. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I pray for that day!! Joe Salowitz <josephsalowitz@...> wrote: Hi a and Jackie, I agree with you. The memory of my mold experiences has faded with time (starting 7 years ago). I also experienced heart palpitations from mold exposure, itself, that had nothing to do with the use of asthma inhalers. I remember thinking: " how could I be having palpitations, when its been over eight hours since I used an inhaler? " Never use a beta-adrenergic asthma inhaler (albuterol), or an anticholinergic asthma inhaler like atrovent(ipratropium bromide) if you are already having palpitations from toxic mold exposure, even if you are positive you are having an asthma attack. Go immediately to a hospital ER, (by ambulance-so you don't have to sit in the E.R. waiting room for six hours before being seen) where they will stupidly tell you to reduce your use of these inhalers, thinking that the inhalers caused your palpitations. But, at least, you will be in a place where you can be observed by doctors, in case you lose consciousness. By law, they MUST let you stay in the E.R. until you are " stable " (without palpitations). You are also correct in saying that overuse of asthma inhalers CAN cause heart palpitations, even if you are NOT experiencing a toxic mold reaction, but only an asthma reaction. That is why you are supposed to wait 2 minutes between your first inhale and your second inhale, to be sure that you do not have palpitations from your first inhale. Here is my wish that you will ALL put the memories of your mold suffering so far behind you, in your past, that you will ALL have trouble remembering the details. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 OK, my chance to sound like an idiot again, but I believe that there is a scientific reason you are correct, Jackie. Outside, mold generally is in competition with lots of other lifeforms and molds - it has to use all its strength to get through the day. Indoors, molds have life a bit more cushy because they aren't always in the same level of competition. Since they aren't pushing themselves to the limit, they can actually buck themselves up a bit against future predators - that's when they are more likely to produce secondary metabolites...i.e., mycotoxins. So, yes, the same molds you bump into outdoors may be much more dangerous indoors because they have a safe home in which to create a way to fortify their defenses (best defense is a good offense, of course). ~Haley jackiebreeze <jackiebreeze@...> wrote: I don't know why, but outside dirt does not bother me. It does when it is dry from lack of rain and dusty but regular dirt has no affect on me. I believe the mold which grows indoors is a different kind of mold than that in outside dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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