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Sharon,

I am a former teacher and was sick for yrs. before finding out what was

wrong. I took allergy shots for almost 3 yrs. which didn't help at all and

actually made me worse. Every week I would get a shot my arm would get red,

warm/hot, itch and many times swell. Dr. told me it was normal but would make me

wait almost 1/2 hr. before leaving his office!

I have been under Dr. Shoemaker's care since Dec. 03 and haven't had an

allergy shot since Feb. 04. Since then I have had no allergy problems, sore

throats, sinus problems or even a common cold. No allergy meds or shots at

all!!!!! Most of my neurological problems are also gone. I still suffer from

fatigue but nothing like it was and my short term memory is shot.

I'm not a Dr. but if your daughter has been exposed and you think she could

possibly be sick I would not recommend them. Just my opinion. If she were mine

I wouldn't do it but would recommend the VCS test.

Sue

I brought my daughter to an allergist today that was recently voted one

of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me the article that

Joe recommended and it said he had read it.

I told him that there were two types of reactions to mold and I

mentioned HLA-DR markers. I mentioned I was totally disabled due to

mold exposure and that mold releases mycotoxins. He agreed but said it

was not his area. My daughter was not sick today and he wanted to give

me prescriptions for her but I said I did not need them and should she

get sick again I would consider using them. Then he mentioned

immunotherapy with mold. I said politely no thanks.

What do you think about immunotherapy for mold. If my daughter was the

genotype (and she has a 50/50 chance) that cannot filter the toxins

wouldn't this therapy be toxic for her?

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Actually, depending on your markers. as I have just found out that I have 2

bio-markers, which automatically gives my children 1. Also if both parents have

marker So there could be 100% chance she has it. my daughter is sick as well,

sorry to here about yours. She is doing better thou from treatment. I highly

recommend Dr Gray. He is great with Kids.

Regards

a

Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: I brought my

daughter to an allergist today that was recently voted one

of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me the article that

Joe recommended and it said he had read it.

I told him that there were two types of reactions to mold and I

mentioned HLA-DR markers. I mentioned I was totally disabled due to

mold exposure and that mold releases mycotoxins. He agreed but said it

was not his area. My daughter was not sick today and he wanted to give

me prescriptions for her but I said I did not need them and should she

get sick again I would consider using them. Then he mentioned

immunotherapy with mold. I said politely no thanks.

What do you think about immunotherapy for mold. If my daughter was the

genotype (and she has a 50/50 chance) that cannot filter the toxins

wouldn't this therapy be toxic for her?

Sharon Hanson

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Thanks Sue and a,

I'm so glad I found this website it is such a good resource. Sue did

you say you're short term memory is shot. I have the same problem

and I was hoping it would get better. I'm under the care of

Kolb, MD. She has worked with Dr. Shoemaker to develop the protocol

for women who have implants that grew mold. I had a clip/marker in my

breasts but did not have implants. I went to her because she knew

about mold growing in the body. I have only been under her treatment

since September 27,2007. Not very long but I am seeing good

results. I was originally exposed from a medical procedure and then

from a sick building of a fortune 50 who knew they were putting

employees/contractors at risk. I acquired Secondary Adrenal

Insufficiency after the building exposure and this has also improved

and I am off steroids but I am not better yet. I wasn't going to put

her on the immunotherapy at all unless I am convinced that is the

right thing to do. I trust very few doctors on this issue. As a

matter of fact I trust you all more than I do most doctors.

a, I found it interesting what you said about having two

markers and your daughter has to have at least one of them. I didn't

know that. I have the breast cancer gene mutation and was told my

daughter has a 50/50 chance but it must be different with two

markers. I had not thought of that.

Thanks

Sharon Hanson

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> Sharon,

> I am a former teacher and was sick for yrs. before finding out what

was

> wrong. I took allergy shots for almost 3 yrs. which didn't help at

all and

> actually made me worse. Every week I would get a shot my arm would

get red,

> warm/hot, itch and many times swell. Dr. told me it was normal but

would make me

> wait almost 1/2 hr. before leaving his office!

> I have been under Dr. Shoemaker's care since Dec. 03 and haven't

had an

> allergy shot since Feb. 04. Since then I have had no allergy

problems, sore

> throats, sinus problems or even a common cold. No allergy meds or

shots at

> all!!!!! Most of my neurological problems are also gone. I still

suffer from

> fatigue but nothing like it was and my short term memory is shot.

> I'm not a Dr. but if your daughter has been exposed and you think

she could

> possibly be sick I would not recommend them. Just my opinion. If

she were mine

> I wouldn't do it but would recommend the VCS test.

>

> Sue

>

>

>

>

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Good words J

The mold diet is on Mold-survivor.com. I folloew that with also avoiding

amylose veggies. (grown underground)

K

J <jackiebreeze@...> wrote: I too test

positive for allergy to every type of mold.

About a year ago I posted a list of foods an

allergist told me to avoid which included cheeses,

vinegar and a list of all sorts of food that those who

have mold allergies should avoid. If I can find that

list, I will re post it. not eating those foods did

me a world of good. I also took the allergy shots

which helped me much. This was about 25 years ago and

that good doctor has since retired. I tried the

immunotherapy again about 2 years ago and the shots

made me sick. I am thinking the different doctor must

had a different kind of shot but at any rate, if I

could take the shots, I would because they did help

me.

One thing, folks need to realize there is a world of

difference between mold allergies and mold illness.

Immunotherapy may help her allergy to the mold but it

will not do anything for toxins she got as a result of

exposure.

--- Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote:

> I brought my daughter to an allergist today that was

> recently voted one

> of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me

> the article that

> Joe recommended and it said he had read it.

>

> I told him that there were two types of reactions to

> mold and I

> mentioned HLA-DR markers. I mentioned I was totally

> disabled due to

> mold exposure and that mold releases mycotoxins. He

> agreed but said it

> was not his area. My daughter was not sick today

> and he wanted to give

> me prescriptions for her but I said I did not need

> them and should she

> get sick again I would consider using them. Then he

> mentioned

> immunotherapy with mold. I said politely no thanks.

>

>

> What do you think about immunotherapy for mold. If

> my daughter was the

> genotype (and she has a 50/50 chance) that cannot

> filter the toxins

> wouldn't this therapy be toxic for her?

>

> Sharon Hanson

>

>

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I believe that there are two kinds of allergy shots. I take allergy

shots which are prescribed by an environmental doctor and they help me

greatly. I have been giving these shots to myself for 3 1/2 years. I

do need to be retested periodically, but it's worth it because I

cannot tolerate allergy medications or inhalers. I also receive

treatment for health issues from toxins and fungal infection.

>

> I brought my daughter to an allergist today that was recently voted

one of the best doctors in the State. I brought with me the article

that Joe recommended and it said he had read it.

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J,

You raise a good point here and one that I agree with you on. The

funny thing is my daughter is not having allergic reactions (no runny

nose, no watery eyes and no sneezing) at all. Her symptoms are not

indicative of an allergic reaction but similar to a toxic one

associated with the body's inability to filter toxins. She is

allergic to grass but prior to finding out she was sit down mowing

our lawn for an allowance without any ill effects.

I'm going to err on the safe side and assume she has the genetic

marker like me and not get the shots. I am also going to assume that

these shots could release the mycotoxins that cause us so many

problems and therefore would be detrimental to her health. Until

they actually do some meaningful research in this area I think it's

the prudent thing to do.

Sharon

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I think you are making a very wise decision for your duaghters health, and I bet

its not the grass she is reacting to but the molds in the dirt. I was told at

the beginning of this to avoid all gardening becuase of all the molds in dirt.

K

Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: J,

You raise a good point here and one that I agree with you on. The

funny thing is my daughter is not having allergic reactions (no runny

nose, no watery eyes and no sneezing) at all. Her symptoms are not

indicative of an allergic reaction but similar to a toxic one

associated with the body's inability to filter toxins. She is

allergic to grass but prior to finding out she was sit down mowing

our lawn for an allowance without any ill effects.

I'm going to err on the safe side and assume she has the genetic

marker like me and not get the shots. I am also going to assume that

these shots could release the mycotoxins that cause us so many

problems and therefore would be detrimental to her health. Until

they actually do some meaningful research in this area I think it's

the prudent thing to do.

Sharon

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I was told at the beginning of this to avoid all gardening becuase of

all the molds in dirt. K

I dont agree with this at all. mold is everywhere, gardening outside

means your getting a go amount of air, not even close to breathing in a

SMB. your getting exposed to molds when you walk down the produce ile

at the supermarket and if you aren't washing those veggies and fruits

and buying ones that aren't quite ripe yet you are eating mold.

and frankly I'd be a whole lot more worried about pesticides.

if you have a allergy to mold spores-myco's wear a mask or wash your

sinuses. mold is in the outside air bot just in the dirt.

it's like haveing house plants, dont over water, make sure you have

food drainage and if your not liveing in a DMB you shouldn't have a

problem.

cutting grass when it's very dry means that everything that has settled

out of the air well get stirred up again, with mcs this can knock you

to your knees, but if it's still a little damp when you mow it you will

have less if any effects.

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Hi a and Jackie,

I agree with you. The memory of my mold experiences has faded with time

(starting 7 years ago). I also experienced heart palpitations from mold

exposure, itself, that had nothing to do with the use of asthma inhalers. I

remember thinking: " how could I be having palpitations, when its been over eight

hours since I used an inhaler? "

Never use a beta-adrenergic asthma inhaler (albuterol), or an anticholinergic

asthma inhaler like atrovent(ipratropium bromide) if you are already having

palpitations from toxic mold exposure, even if you are positive you are having

an asthma attack. Go immediately to a hospital ER, (by ambulance-so you don't

have to sit in the E.R. waiting room for six hours before being seen) where they

will stupidly tell you to reduce your use of these inhalers, thinking that the

inhalers caused your palpitations. But, at least, you will be in a place where

you can be observed by doctors, in case you lose consciousness. By law, they

MUST let you stay in the E.R. until you are " stable " (without palpitations).

You are also correct in saying that overuse of asthma inhalers CAN cause heart

palpitations, even if you are NOT experiencing a toxic mold reaction, but only

an asthma reaction. That is why you are supposed to wait 2 minutes between your

first inhale and your second inhale, to be sure that you do not have

palpitations from your first inhale.

Here is my wish that you will ALL put the memories of your mold suffering so

far behind you, in your past, that you will ALL have trouble remembering the

details.

Joe

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I pray for that day!!

Joe Salowitz <josephsalowitz@...> wrote: Hi

a and Jackie,

I agree with you. The memory of my mold experiences has faded with time

(starting 7 years ago). I also experienced heart palpitations from mold

exposure, itself, that had nothing to do with the use of asthma inhalers. I

remember thinking: " how could I be having palpitations, when its been over eight

hours since I used an inhaler? "

Never use a beta-adrenergic asthma inhaler (albuterol), or an anticholinergic

asthma inhaler like atrovent(ipratropium bromide) if you are already having

palpitations from toxic mold exposure, even if you are positive you are having

an asthma attack. Go immediately to a hospital ER, (by ambulance-so you don't

have to sit in the E.R. waiting room for six hours before being seen) where they

will stupidly tell you to reduce your use of these inhalers, thinking that the

inhalers caused your palpitations. But, at least, you will be in a place where

you can be observed by doctors, in case you lose consciousness. By law, they

MUST let you stay in the E.R. until you are " stable " (without palpitations).

You are also correct in saying that overuse of asthma inhalers CAN cause

heart palpitations, even if you are NOT experiencing a toxic mold reaction, but

only an asthma reaction. That is why you are supposed to wait 2 minutes between

your first inhale and your second inhale, to be sure that you do not have

palpitations from your first inhale.

Here is my wish that you will ALL put the memories of your mold suffering so

far behind you, in your past, that you will ALL have trouble remembering the

details.

Joe

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OK, my chance to sound like an idiot again, but I believe that there is a

scientific reason you are correct, Jackie.

Outside, mold generally is in competition with lots of other lifeforms and

molds - it has to use all its strength to get through the day.

Indoors, molds have life a bit more cushy because they aren't always in the

same level of competition. Since they aren't pushing themselves to the limit,

they can actually buck themselves up a bit against future predators - that's

when they are more likely to produce secondary metabolites...i.e., mycotoxins.

So, yes, the same molds you bump into outdoors may be much more dangerous

indoors because they have a safe home in which to create a way to fortify their

defenses (best defense is a good offense, of course).

~Haley

jackiebreeze <jackiebreeze@...> wrote:

I don't know why, but outside dirt does not bother me. It does when

it is dry from lack of rain and dusty but regular dirt has no affect

on me. I believe the mold which grows indoors is a different kind of

mold than that in outside dirt.

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