Re: is cytomel really the answer for high reverse t3?

[Guest guest]

Sounds great but how do you increase D1? It is a very partial answer.

And I have yet to find what helps the body to convert. Selenium does

not work for me.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

[Guest guest]

yea,,,Im not taking his word as gospel,,,,just another argument in

one direction

> > according to dr john Crisler,,,(who by the way is a very well

> > respected osteopath) its not. here's a post from him

> >

> > Re: Cytomel to treat Reverse T3?? Valid?

> > " I know this is a popular thought in my field currently, but it is the

> > result of a lack of true appreciation for how the body actually works.

> >

> > The whole key to effectively treating thyroid is the D1 enzyme, which

> > converts T4 to T3. I don't have time to write it all out (and think I

> > have here already), but the basic idea it to increase D1 activity, and

> > decrease D3 (which converts T4 to rT3, as well as breaking down T3 to

> > T2). Giving T3 only does not do this, and ramps up the system

> > inappropriately along the way. If you give T3 only, or extra T3 on top

> > of Armour, you provide an instant boost, but compromise ultimate

> > treatment because you are not moving D1 forward.

> >

> > Many have fallen by the wayside and only look at simple hormone

> > levels. That is why they knee-jerk and give extra T3. Also, as long as

> > T3/rT3 is greater than 10:1, it's really okay anyway. And we always

> > achieve those numbers, without giving extra T3. Remember: focus on D1!

> >

> > I'm trying to save you from this flawed thinking. Please pass it on.

> > THIS is why guys come here " .

> >

> > I have my cynomel on the way but Im still very nervous about trying

> > it,,,espescially after reading that post from dr john. there are so

> > many opinions that vary and both sides have reputable names. what do

> > you guys and girls think of this explanation from dr john?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sol,

Why did you go to all T3 and for how long were you on only T3?

Why are you going back to Thyroid S ?

> > according to dr john Crisler,,,(who by the way is a very well

> > respected osteopath) its not. here's a post from him

> >

> > Re: Cytomel to treat Reverse T3?? Valid?

> > " I know this is a popular thought in my field currently, but it

is the

> > result of a lack of true appreciation for how the body actually

works.

> >

> > The whole key to effectively treating thyroid is the D1 enzyme,

which

> > converts T4 to T3. I don't have time to write it all out (and

think I

> > have here already), but the basic idea it to increase D1

activity, and

> > decrease D3 (which converts T4 to rT3, as well as breaking down

T3 to

> > T2). Giving T3 only does not do this, and ramps up the system

> > inappropriately along the way. If you give T3 only, or extra T3

on top

> > of Armour, you provide an instant boost, but compromise ultimate

> > treatment because you are not moving D1 forward.

> >

> > Many have fallen by the wayside and only look at simple hormone

> > levels. That is why they knee-jerk and give extra T3. Also, as

long as

> > T3/rT3 is greater than 10:1, it's really okay anyway. And we

always

> > achieve those numbers, without giving extra T3. Remember: focus

on D1!

> >

> > I'm trying to save you from this flawed thinking. Please pass it

on.

> > THIS is why guys come here " .

> >

> > I have my cynomel on the way but Im still very nervous about

trying

> > it,,,espescially after reading that post from dr john. there are

so

> > many opinions that vary and both sides have reputable names. what

do

> > you guys and girls think of this explanation from dr john?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--- At 08:38 AM 3/29/2008, wrote:

>

> according to dr john Crisler,,,(who by the way is a very

>well respected osteopath) its not. here's a post from him

>

> Re: Cytomel to treat Reverse T3?? Valid?

>[...]

> I don't have time to write it all out

> (and think I have here already),

>[...]

,

What group was this posted on?

Google and 'Google Groups' finds nothing (related), for:

" Crisler DO " rt3

or

" Crisler DO " " reverse t3 "

Also, there's nothing on his website about rt3

(www.allthingsmale.com).

Bill

---

[Guest guest]

Is the " D1 " enzyme the type-I 5'-deiodinase enzyme?

If that is what he's talking about, there is another, a type-II 5'-D

enzyme. Type I inhabits primarily the liver, kidneys, and skeletal

muscle. Type II inhabits primarily the brain and nervous system. Both

types are responsible for T4-to-T3 conversion.

Selenium is needed for Type I, but not for Type II 5'-D activity. I've

just stumbled on this info (Dr. Lowe and Greg ), and I think this

implies that taking selenium may improve the hypothyroid muscle

tissues or kidneys/liver, but not the hypothyroid brain.

If you have any live experience that relates to this, please post.

Also, if you have any info on what stimulates Type II 5'-D, please

post. I've got a family member who is very brain-hypo.

[Guest guest]

musclechatroom.com

> >

> > according to dr john Crisler,,,(who by the way is a very

> >well respected osteopath) its not. here's a post from him

> >

> > Re: Cytomel to treat Reverse T3?? Valid?

> >[...]

> > I don't have time to write it all out

> > (and think I have here already),

> >[...]

>

>

> ,

>

> What group was this posted on?

>

> Google and 'Google Groups' finds nothing (related), for:

>

> " Crisler DO " rt3

> or

> " Crisler DO " " reverse t3 "

>

> Also, there's nothing on his website about rt3

> (www.allthingsmale.com).

>

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

> ---

>