Re: Doctor In SC

[Guest guest]

There is a good one in Atlanta Ga whose name is Dr.

Tanner. I saw her once but could not afford to go

back as my insurance did not cover much as it was out

of network. I believe she may been able to help me if

only I could had afford her. Who is the allergist you

are going to? I am in SC too.

--- llaci2003 <jjaksic@...> wrote:

> I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor

> for my MCS. Does

> anyone know of one.

>

> I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I

> need to move up to

> someone more specilized.

>

>

>

>

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I have seen every allergist there is in Greenville in one capacity or

another. Some I left and some left me. None of them know

anything about MCS. The only thing they could do for me would be

allergy testing. I didn't opt for that at the time because I wouldn't

be covered. But now my MCS has kicked in real bad.

I went to see supposedly the best allergist in Columbia about the

seriousness of my MCS. He had no idea what to do. Should have known

by his moldy office he would be a waste of time.

Maybe I'll try and find her email address and see what she thinks.

Even at SCMU in ton, when I explained all my MCS reactions,

they were at a loss for words. So I never bothered going out there

knowing I'd come home without any help.

[Guest guest]

-Was Dr. Tanner affiliated with Emory by any chance?

[Guest guest]

Here is her website:

http://www.spherios.com/about_doctors.html

I am in and have visited a few allergist in

Greenville as well over the years. One of the best I

ever had was there but he has been long gone. I also

went to SCMU and I agree, they did not help me either!

The doctor I saw is a professor but was so clueless,

even on my sinus issues which most doctors do have a

little more understanding of, he knew nothing and did

nothing for me. He told me to use a humidifier! I was

like " in a moldy house?? " I went about 3 times and

stopped when my husband had to rush me to the ER here

in town after a visit.

--- llaci2003 <jjaksic@...> wrote:

>

> I have seen every allergist there is in Greenville

> in one capacity or

> another. Some I left and some left me. None of

> them know

> anything about MCS. The only thing they could do

> for me would be

> allergy testing. I didn't opt for that at the time

> because I wouldn't

> be covered. But now my MCS has kicked in real bad.

>

>

> I went to see supposedly the best allergist in

> Columbia about the

> seriousness of my MCS. He had no idea what to do.

> Should have known

> by his moldy office he would be a waste of time.

>

> Maybe I'll try and find her email address and see

> what she thinks.

> Even at SCMU in ton, when I explained all my

> MCS reactions,

> they were at a loss for words. So I never bothered

> going out there

> knowing I'd come home without any help.

>

>

>

>

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Try this link to search for an environmental doctor:

http://www.aaemonline.org/

Dr. Lieberman in North ton was recommended to us before we

started seeing someone, but I am in the Midwest and he was too far away.

-

>

> I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS. Does

> anyone know of one.

>

> I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up to

> someone more specilized.

>

[Guest guest]

I heard he was good as well but he does not accept

insurance and he is pricy but for some, that may not

be an issue.

--- <smarshwar@...> wrote:

> Try this link to search for an environmental doctor:

> http://www.aaemonline.org/

> Dr. Lieberman in North ton was recommended to

> us before we

> started seeing someone, but I am in the Midwest and

> he was too far away.

>

> -

>

>

> >

> > I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor

> for my MCS. Does

> > anyone know of one.

> >

> > I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I

> need to move up to

> > someone more specilized.

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That's what the problem is. I'd have to pay out of pocket. And then

can they even help me. It's a dilemna.

[Guest guest]

Would be interested in sharing your treatment. If you could.

Would you prefer to PM or email me? Whatever is best. I doubt I can

afford to visit those doctors.

[Guest guest]

The problem was, I could never afford the doctors

either. Until we got a new house, I felt I had to

live with mold forever so now, I am thankful we saved

the money for a house even thought the medical

treatment would had been great. I still feel I can use

medical treatment from an environmental doctor as my

body is still full of toxins and run down from living

in that horrible environment for so long. The one in

Atlanta wanted about 1200 which my insurance did not

cover. That is really too much for me spend. She gave

me a prescription for nystatin to sniff up my nose in

water but it only cured that one infection that one

time. I have tried it on other infections I had since

and they ended up being bacterial and not fungal. One

thing she did state in regards to her treatment, she

starts patients off sweating, I assume she puts the in

a sauna.

But, I know how it feels to want to see those doctors

and can't. We are paying about 100 a week on my

medical insurance alone and I can't go to some of the

specialist that would benefit me as they are not

covered in my plan.

--- llaci2003 <jjaksic@...> wrote:

> Would be interested in sharing your treatment. If

> you could.

> Would you prefer to PM or email me? Whatever is

> best. I doubt I can

> afford to visit those doctors.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Contact Alan Liebermann in ton, S.C. He is semi-retired. If he is not

taking new patients his office can probably refer you to one.

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

Jack,

He is one of the doctors we have been tossing around.

He does not accept insurance and his fees are very

high. I heard he is a great doctor though!

--- " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

> Contact Alan Liebermann in ton, S.C. He is

> semi-retired. If he is not taking new patients his

> office can probably refer you to one.

>

> Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

>

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Like many people with Mold Injury and those that frequent this site,

I have been to many, many doctors over the years - including Dr. Weil

in Tucson, Dr. Rae in Dallas and most recently Dr. Shoemaker in

land. While Dr. Shoemaker helped identify mold cause and effect

his approach struggles to address MCS that does not improve by just

addressing the mold.

I am currently going to a leading expert in MCS, Chemical Injury in

land who has developed a protocol for addressing MCS - that is

now used by 100's of doctors.

Dr. Grace Ziem and her phone number is (301) 241-4346. Her office

may be able to point you to a doctor near where you are.

You can also get information on her web site at www.chemicalinjury.net

There are several doctors now using the " Ziem Protocol " in

combination with the " Shoemaker Protocol " in order to address the

Biochemical impact to the body while addressing toxin removal.

In most cases the Shoemaker Protocol addresses the mold toxins,

allowing your body functions to improve, then enabling your body to

begin processing nutrients from foods more effectively and then the

healing takes place. It is possible in a handful of cases that the

Shoemaker Protocol could lead to increased nutrient depletion (in the

very severe cases) thus increasing the levels of MCS.

Hope this helps..

>

> I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS. Does

> anyone know of one.

>

> I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up to

> someone more specilized.

>

[Guest guest]

,

Just to back that up, not that it needs it but the University of Washington's

Dept of Molecular science also recommends Dr Ziem protocol for MCS. Its a great

article. it sites other protocols but recommends hers above all. Funny I just

refilled my script for this and since the last time I had it filled she has

updated it twice.

FYI Key pharmacy in Kent Washington who compounds this protocol also provides

CSM with out additives or sweeteners.

Regards

a

crainedavid <dcmold@...> wrote: Like many

people with Mold Injury and those that frequent this site,

I have been to many, many doctors over the years - including Dr. Weil

in Tucson, Dr. Rae in Dallas and most recently Dr. Shoemaker in

land. While Dr. Shoemaker helped identify mold cause and effect

his approach struggles to address MCS that does not improve by just

addressing the mold.

I am currently going to a leading expert in MCS, Chemical Injury in

land who has developed a protocol for addressing MCS - that is

now used by 100's of doctors.

Dr. Grace Ziem and her phone number is (301) 241-4346. Her office

may be able to point you to a doctor near where you are.

You can also get information on her web site at www.chemicalinjury.net

There are several doctors now using the " Ziem Protocol " in

combination with the " Shoemaker Protocol " in order to address the

Biochemical impact to the body while addressing toxin removal.

In most cases the Shoemaker Protocol addresses the mold toxins,

allowing your body functions to improve, then enabling your body to

begin processing nutrients from foods more effectively and then the

healing takes place. It is possible in a handful of cases that the

Shoemaker Protocol could lead to increased nutrient depletion (in the

very severe cases) thus increasing the levels of MCS.

Hope this helps..

>

> I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS. Does

> anyone know of one.

>

> I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up to

> someone more specilized.

>

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Typical result when needing a specialist, " not taking new patients " . Ugh!

> >

>

>

>

>

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Thanks for the referral.

[Guest guest]

Dacid, thanks. your just talking about treatments here, right? as far

as testing for MCS Dr. Shoemaker deals with that doesn't he?

I've already been diagnosed with MCS from a aaem member/doctor but

would like it reconfermed along with biotoxin illness/exposure.

I'm thinking Ziems protocal us online, does it involve prescriptions

needed from her?

> >

> > I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS.

Does

> > anyone know of one.

> >

> > I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up

to

> > someone more specilized.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much!

[] Re: Doctor In SC

Like many people with Mold Injury and those that frequent this site,

I have been to many, many doctors over the years - including Dr. Weil

in Tucson, Dr. Rae in Dallas and most recently Dr. Shoemaker in

land. While Dr. Shoemaker helped identify mold cause and effect

his approach struggles to address MCS that does not improve by just

addressing the mold.

I am currently going to a leading expert in MCS, Chemical Injury in

land who has developed a protocol for addressing MCS - that is

now used by 100's of doctors.

Dr. Grace Ziem and her phone number is (301) 241-4346. Her office

may be able to point you to a doctor near where you are.

You can also get information on her web site at www.chemicalinjury. net

There are several doctors now using the " Ziem Protocol " in

combination with the " Shoemaker Protocol " in order to address the

Biochemical impact to the body while addressing toxin removal.

In most cases the Shoemaker Protocol addresses the mold toxins,

allowing your body functions to improve, then enabling your body to

begin processing nutrients from foods more effectively and then the

healing takes place. It is possible in a handful of cases that the

Shoemaker Protocol could lead to increased nutrient depletion (in the

very severe cases) thus increasing the levels of MCS.

Hope this helps..

>

> I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS. Does

> anyone know of one.

>

> I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up to

> someone more specilized.

>

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Again. Thanks for all the referrals.

[Guest guest]

Jeanine,

You can do the supplements, but it also includes glutithione which you use in a

nebulizer as well as in nasal sprays w/B12.

K

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: Dacid,

thanks. your just talking about treatments here, right? as far

as testing for MCS Dr. Shoemaker deals with that doesn't he?

I've already been diagnosed with MCS from a aaem member/doctor but

would like it reconfermed along with biotoxin illness/exposure.

I'm thinking Ziems protocal us online, does it involve prescriptions

needed from her?

> >

> > I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS.

Does

> > anyone know of one.

> >

> > I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up

to

> > someone more specilized.

> >

>

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You pay for the best. I known Alan for years and he is one of the best.

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

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hi ,

i'm curious----is the following webpage the protocol u're referring to?

http://www.chemicalinjury.net/html/neural_sensitization__treating.html

> >

> > I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS. Does

> > anyone know of one.

> >

> > I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up to

> > someone more specilized.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, of course, getting away from the mold source helps a lot.

After 1 2/1 years of living in a moldy home in a moldy area of the

country, we moved and I was able to recover about 75% of my health

back. Never again would I be 100% healthy as I was prior to moving

into that house.

[Guest guest]

I would like to echo your thoughts and say I have had the same experience

described here. I have found this to be a very frustrating experience and

expensive to say the least. In fact I have gotten to a point of complete

confusion, and just when I thought I was getting somewhere????

[] Re: Doctor In SC

hi ,

i'm curious----is the following webpage the protocol u're referring to?

http://www.chemical injury.net/ html/neural_ sensitization_ _treating. html

> >

> > I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS. Does

> > anyone know of one.

> >

> > I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move up to

> > someone more specilized.

> >

>

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No - Dr. Shoemaker does not test for MCS. He does believe however

that low VIP measured by one of his tests may be a driver in MCS.

Dr. Ziem was extremely concerned about trying to treat using

VIP " Hormone Supplementation " to address my symptoms - especially

with all of the things she found not right in her testing. Also, in

my most recent Shoemaker testing my " VIP " levels had increased from

the original " Not Measurable Levels " nearly to the lower part of

Shoemaker's test range - yet my " MCS " is still extreme. According to

Dr. Ziem, my test results show that I am of the worst 5% of patients

she has seen.

As for the term MCS - I have only used that term in this post because

it is easy to spell and well understood. Dr. Ziem may speak to MCS

on her web site but does not use MCS as a diagnosis. In my case it

is " Toxic Encephalopathy " (Brain Injury), " Neural Sensitization "

(Vicious Biochemical Cycles brought on by exposures), " Chronic

Inflamation " (Brain, Kidneys, Liver...), " Severe Nutrient

Deficiency " ....

Hope this helps..

> >

> > Like many people with Mold Injury and those that frequent this

> site,

> > I have been to many, many doctors over the years - including Dr.

> Weil

> > in Tucson, Dr. Rae in Dallas and most recently Dr. Shoemaker in

> > land. While Dr. Shoemaker helped identify mold cause and

> effect

> > his approach struggles to address MCS that does not improve by

just

> > addressing the mold.

> >

> > I am currently going to a leading expert in MCS, Chemical Injury

in

> > land who has developed a protocol for addressing MCS - that

is

> > now used by 100's of doctors.

> >

> > Dr. Grace Ziem and her phone number is (301) 241-4346. Her

office

> > may be able to point you to a doctor near where you are.

> >

> > You can also get information on her web site at

> www.chemicalinjury.net

> >

> > There are several doctors now using the " Ziem Protocol " in

> > combination with the " Shoemaker Protocol " in order to address the

> > Biochemical impact to the body while addressing toxin removal.

> >

> > In most cases the Shoemaker Protocol addresses the mold toxins,

> > allowing your body functions to improve, then enabling your body

to

> > begin processing nutrients from foods more effectively and then

the

> > healing takes place. It is possible in a handful of cases that

the

> > Shoemaker Protocol could lead to increased nutrient depletion (in

> the

> > very severe cases) thus increasing the levels of MCS.

> >

> > Hope this helps..

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In , " llaci2003 " <jjaksic@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS.

> Does

> > > anyone know of one.

> > >

> > > I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move

up

> to

> > > someone more specilized.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes this is the protocol. Also - Perque makes a B12 tablet that

disolves under the tongue that is the Hydroxocobalamin B12 you will

need to take. It is called " Activated B-12 Guard " and you can get it

through several on-line supplement houses.

You will see on her web site that other forms of B-12 do not work to

diminish the Nitric Oxide issues in the brain. She also states that

B-12 is the most important deficiency then comes Folate and then

Glutathione.

In fact - there are a number of treatments for Autisim using B-12

tablets (Hydroxo) with drops of Folic Acid applied to the tablets and

they are seeing tremendous results.

> >

> > Like many people with Mold Injury and those that frequent this

site,

> > I have been to many, many doctors over the years - including Dr.

Weil

> > in Tucson, Dr. Rae in Dallas and most recently Dr. Shoemaker in

> > land. While Dr. Shoemaker helped identify mold cause and

effect

> > his approach struggles to address MCS that does not improve by

just

> > addressing the mold.

> >

> > I am currently going to a leading expert in MCS, Chemical Injury

in

> > land who has developed a protocol for addressing MCS - that

is

> > now used by 100's of doctors.

> >

> > Dr. Grace Ziem and her phone number is (301) 241-4346. Her

office

> > may be able to point you to a doctor near where you are.

> >

> > You can also get information on her web site at

www.chemicalinjury.net

> >

> > There are several doctors now using the " Ziem Protocol " in

> > combination with the " Shoemaker Protocol " in order to address the

> > Biochemical impact to the body while addressing toxin removal.

> >

> > In most cases the Shoemaker Protocol addresses the mold toxins,

> > allowing your body functions to improve, then enabling your body

to

> > begin processing nutrients from foods more effectively and then

the

> > healing takes place. It is possible in a handful of cases that

the

> > Shoemaker Protocol could lead to increased nutrient depletion (in

the

> > very severe cases) thus increasing the levels of MCS.

> >

> > Hope this helps..

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In , " llaci2003 " <jjaksic@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I'm still looking for an Environmental type doctor for my MCS.

Does

> > > anyone know of one.

> > >

> > > I've seen probably the best allergist in SC but I need to move

up to

> > > someone more specilized.

> > >

> >

>