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Is it pertainent to ones medical treatment(s) to: 1. Obtain the

severity of exposure and (2). Length of exposure to (3). The type of

Molds one has been exposed to? And if so, how would one go about

gathering that info, when the employer has taken a position to involve

denial and a cover-up?

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> Is it pertainent to ones medical treatment(s) to: 1. Obtain the

> severity of exposure and (2). Length of exposure to (3). The type of

> Molds one has been exposed to? And if so, how would one go about

> gathering that info, when the employer has taken a position to

involve

> denial and a cover-up?

>

I'm not sure how you would retroactively measure exposure. You could

estimate potential I suppose.

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I want to know, how are these people who are getting these diagoseses

finding their doctors?

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get regular, family doctors

WHO ARE LOCAL and covered by insurance up to speed on things like this?

It is SO exhausting.

> Is it pertainent to ones medical treatment(s) to: 1. Obtain the

> severity of exposure and (2). Length of exposure to (3). The type of

> Molds one has been exposed to? And if so, how would one go about

> gathering that info, when the employer has taken a position to involve

> denial and a cover-up?

In my experience, many doctors emphatically

don't know what to do with that kind of

information. Ive thought in retrospect that it

might have been better to play dumb because once

they hear the word 'mold' its as if their brains

switch off. Their eyes glaze over. They often tell

you upfront, they just " don't have the time to

learn anything new " .

You become a problem patient to them.

Public officials too. I do have toxin test

results so I have personal experience on this.

They were very bad but it made little difference

except to make many of the officials I approached

afraid of listening to what I had to say.

They don't want to add to their workload, I guess.

Still, I am glad that I have the test results

because it shows that it was not imaginary.

Once you show them toxin test results, even showing

them specific toxin tests, then some doctors then want

no part in your care, they want you to see a specialist.

Anything to get you out of their office.

There are exceptions to this, I think around

1/3 of my doctors have been GOOD and are willing

to listen but the other 2/3 have been apathetic at

best and hostile at worst.

The hostile ones leave you in shock. When you get the

hostile ones it really makes you feel violated.

Don't expect to not have to pay their bills

either, they will gladly charge you (or your

insurance company) $$$$ (four figure sums) for a

half hour of insulting your intelligence about

things they know nothing about.

perhaps its because they don't want to get involved

in controversy or be attacked by powerful

organizations, I doin't know, but they take it out on

you and sometimes they are spiteful, evil people.

I have become quite disenchanted with public officials too.

Public officials often pretend they never received

anything. If you can nail them down as having received

things they tell you that they have not read

anything you send. I don't know why, but this is

what I have run into.

Aggressive non-understanding. Hostility.

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It is absolutely necessary to obtain all possible exposure data even

if you must do the environmental testing yourself. It doesn't mean

you will find a good doctor willing to assist you. But if you do

find a good doc, they cannot risk their licensure and insurance on

trusting your word for having been poisoned. The good guys need the

data in order to do a good job of treating you to the best of their

ability while honestly representing their tests and procedures to

insurers, disability companies, workers comp boards etc. We can't

expect doctors to go out on the liability limb without such data.

The bad docs won't do any worse with the data than they would

without it. But with the exposure data, they are less likely to lie

about your condition on paper (e.g. say you are a hypochondriac) and

you have recourse if they do.

Exposure data will also be the only means of anyone ever oompiling

statistics for equating symptoms with environmental test results. It

won't help our generation but it will the next.

As I have written again and again, exposure data matters. If we

bring environmental toxicology into the mainstream where it is

accessible to all patients, then landlords, employers and neighbors

won't be able to successfully lie about their activities or the

state of their property when people are harmed.

Barb Rubin

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> I want to know, how are these people who are getting these

diagoseses

> finding their doctors?

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get regular, family

doctors

> WHO ARE LOCAL and covered by insurance up to speed on things like

this?

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