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Happyru/All:

Try http://www.mycotoxicosis.com/

Doug Haney

@...: happyru@...: Mon, 7 Jan 2008

18:38:44 +0000Subject: [] MOLD and Your Health

This is the most symptom entailed list I have

found....http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.htmlRecently we have begun to see a

rise in mold related health problems from toxic molds such as stachybotrys,

strains of aspergillus, chaetomium and penicillium. Health problems can be so

severe that some people actually have had to burn their homes. Although, we are

beginning to see a lot of exposure in the media regarding these molds, and thus

it is increasing awareness in our society about mold related health issues, we

often don't hear about the devastating health problems that are caused by common

everyday molds present in all our environments. Mold is an invisible microscopic

organism and it is everywhere. It is in the air and grows on everything.

Typically we can't see it until it grows into larger colonies. It is the most

widespread living organism in thousands of varieties indoors and out. Mold puts

out showers of spores into the air that can be in the millions. It is present in

highest numbers in the spring and fall, but is present in all seasons and is

often underestimated for the vast amount of havoc it can perpetrate on one's

health. Molds make toxins called mycotoxins that can do the same damage to our

health as any chemical such as formaldehyde, toluene, natural gas or

trichloethylene. They can even initiate cancers, cause chemical sensitivity and

just about any symptom you can think of ranging from high blood pressure to

depression. Not only do molds trigger typical organs such as nose, chest or skin

with allergic rhinitis, sinusitis, asthma, rashes, hives and eczema, but the

brain can also be the target organ. Mold can be a primary cause of depression,

obsessive compulsion, panic attacks, schizophrenia, tourettes syndrome,

migraine, headaches, or inability to concentrate. In susceptible individuals

mold can also cause dermatitis, dizziness, fatigue, algias, irritability,

weakness, burning eyes, arthritis, lower IQ, chest pain, shortness of breath,

confusion, hyperactivity, symptoms attributed to MS, heart palpitations,

cravings for sweets or carbohydrates, gastrointestinal distress such as

irritable bowel, indigestion, heartburn, etc., and much more.

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Group,

Maybe it's just me. I found the site from happyuiam

http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html to be quite good about holistic

health. Very informative and objective.

However, and this is not a criticism of happyuiam, the section on

mold has a much different tone, as most mold sites do. Instead of

" associated with " or " leads to " or " profound impact " it uses words

like " causes " or " devasting health problems " or " showers of spores

into the air that can be in the millions. " Or, " can do the same

damage to our health as... "

The point I'm making is why is the rhetoric about mold so definite,

adamant and frightening, even inflammatory, when worse conditions are

dealt with more calmly and evenhandedly? Check out the other pages on

the site and compare.

Or is it just me?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> This is the most symptom entailed list I have found....

>

> http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html

>

> Recently we have begun to see a rise in mold related health problems

> from toxic molds such as stachybotrys, strains of aspergillus,

> chaetomium and penicillium. Health problems can be so severe that

> some people actually have had to burn their homes.

>

> Although, we are beginning to see a lot of exposure in the media

> regarding these molds, and thus it is increasing awareness in our

> society about mold related health issues, we often don't hear about

> the devastating health problems that are caused by common everyday

> molds present in all our environments.

>

> Mold is an invisible microscopic organism and it is everywhere. It

> is in the air and grows on everything. Typically we can't see it

> until it grows into larger colonies. It is the most widespread

> living organism in thousands of varieties indoors and out.

>

> Mold puts out showers of spores into the air that can be in the

> millions. It is present in highest numbers in the spring and fall,

> but is present in all seasons and is often underestimated for the

> vast amount of havoc it can perpetrate on one's health.

>

> Molds make toxins called mycotoxins that can do the same damage to

> our health as any chemical such as formaldehyde, toluene, natural gas

> or trichloethylene. They can even initiate cancers, cause chemical

> sensitivity and just about any symptom you can think of ranging from

> high blood pressure to depression.

>

> Not only do molds trigger typical organs such as nose, chest or skin

> with allergic rhinitis, sinusitis, asthma, rashes, hives and eczema,

> but the brain can also be the target organ.

>

> Mold can be a primary cause of depression, obsessive compulsion,

> panic attacks, schizophrenia, tourettes syndrome, migraine,

> headaches, or inability to concentrate.

>

> In susceptible individuals mold can also cause dermatitis, dizziness,

> fatigue, algias, irritability, weakness, burning eyes, arthritis,

> lower IQ, chest pain, shortness of breath, confusion, hyperactivity,

> symptoms attributed to MS, heart palpitations, cravings for sweets or

> carbohydrates, gastrointestinal distress such as irritable bowel,

> indigestion, heartburn, etc., and much more.

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

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Carl,

I was ONLY commenting on the list of symptoms they presented. I have

not found in any Sited Documents with so many of the Symptoms I have

experienced myself and in finding it , I thought I'd share and

perhaps someone would also recognize a symptom they had not seen

described anywhere else. :)

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

>

> Group,

>

> Maybe it's just me. I found the site from happyuiam

> http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html to be quite good about

holistic

> health. Very informative and objective.

>

> However, and this is not a criticism of happyuiam, the section on

> mold has a much different tone, as most mold sites do. Instead of

> " associated with " or " leads to " or " profound impact " it uses words

> like " causes " or " devasting health problems " or " showers of spores

> into the air that can be in the millions. " Or, " can do the same

> damage to our health as... "

>

> The point I'm making is why is the rhetoric about mold so definite,

> adamant and frightening, even inflammatory, when worse conditions

are

> dealt with more calmly and evenhandedly? Check out the other pages

on

> the site and compare.

>

> Or is it just me?

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

> > This is the most symptom entailed list I have found....

> >

> > http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html

> >

> > Recently we have begun to see a rise in mold related health

problems

> > from toxic molds such as stachybotrys, strains of aspergillus,

> > chaetomium and penicillium. Health problems can be so severe

that

> > some people actually have had to burn their homes.

> >

> > Although, we are beginning to see a lot of exposure in the media

> > regarding these molds, and thus it is increasing awareness in our

> > society about mold related health issues, we often don't hear

about

> > the devastating health problems that are caused by common

everyday

> > molds present in all our environments.

> >

> > Mold is an invisible microscopic organism and it is everywhere.

It

> > is in the air and grows on everything. Typically we can't see it

> > until it grows into larger colonies. It is the most widespread

> > living organism in thousands of varieties indoors and out.

> >

> > Mold puts out showers of spores into the air that can be in the

> > millions. It is present in highest numbers in the spring and

fall,

> > but is present in all seasons and is often underestimated for the

> > vast amount of havoc it can perpetrate on one's health.

> >

> > Molds make toxins called mycotoxins that can do the same damage

to

> > our health as any chemical such as formaldehyde, toluene, natural

gas

> > or trichloethylene. They can even initiate cancers, cause

chemical

> > sensitivity and just about any symptom you can think of ranging

from

> > high blood pressure to depression.

> >

> > Not only do molds trigger typical organs such as nose, chest or

skin

> > with allergic rhinitis, sinusitis, asthma, rashes, hives and

eczema,

> > but the brain can also be the target organ.

> >

> > Mold can be a primary cause of depression, obsessive compulsion,

> > panic attacks, schizophrenia, tourettes syndrome, migraine,

> > headaches, or inability to concentrate.

> >

> > In susceptible individuals mold can also cause dermatitis,

dizziness,

> > fatigue, algias, irritability, weakness, burning eyes, arthritis,

> > lower IQ, chest pain, shortness of breath, confusion,

hyperactivity,

> > symptoms attributed to MS, heart palpitations, cravings for

sweets or

> > carbohydrates, gastrointestinal distress such as irritable bowel,

> > indigestion, heartburn, etc., and much more.

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

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Sorry Carl, I'm just a lil SICK and CRANKY...forgive me :)

> >

> > Group,

> >

> > Maybe it's just me. I found the site from happyuiam

> > http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html to be quite good about

> holistic

> > health. Very informative and objective.

> >

> > However, and this is not a criticism of happyuiam, the section on

> > mold has a much different tone, as most mold sites do. Instead of

> > " associated with " or " leads to " or " profound impact " it uses

words

> > like " causes " or " devasting health problems " or " showers of

spores

> > into the air that can be in the millions. " Or, " can do the same

> > damage to our health as... "

> >

> > The point I'm making is why is the rhetoric about mold so

definite,

> > adamant and frightening, even inflammatory, when worse conditions

> are

> > dealt with more calmly and evenhandedly? Check out the other

pages

> on

> > the site and compare.

> >

> > Or is it just me?

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> > > This is the most symptom entailed list I have found....

> > >

> > > http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html

> > >

> > > Recently we have begun to see a rise in mold related health

> problems

> > > from toxic molds such as stachybotrys, strains of aspergillus,

> > > chaetomium and penicillium. Health problems can be so severe

> that

> > > some people actually have had to burn their homes.

> > >

> > > Although, we are beginning to see a lot of exposure in the

media

> > > regarding these molds, and thus it is increasing awareness in

our

> > > society about mold related health issues, we often don't hear

> about

> > > the devastating health problems that are caused by common

> everyday

> > > molds present in all our environments.

> > >

> > > Mold is an invisible microscopic organism and it is

everywhere.

> It

> > > is in the air and grows on everything. Typically we can't see

it

> > > until it grows into larger colonies. It is the most widespread

> > > living organism in thousands of varieties indoors and out.

> > >

> > > Mold puts out showers of spores into the air that can be in the

> > > millions. It is present in highest numbers in the spring and

> fall,

> > > but is present in all seasons and is often underestimated for

the

> > > vast amount of havoc it can perpetrate on one's health.

> > >

> > > Molds make toxins called mycotoxins that can do the same damage

> to

> > > our health as any chemical such as formaldehyde, toluene,

natural

> gas

> > > or trichloethylene. They can even initiate cancers, cause

> chemical

> > > sensitivity and just about any symptom you can think of ranging

> from

> > > high blood pressure to depression.

> > >

> > > Not only do molds trigger typical organs such as nose, chest or

> skin

> > > with allergic rhinitis, sinusitis, asthma, rashes, hives and

> eczema,

> > > but the brain can also be the target organ.

> > >

> > > Mold can be a primary cause of depression, obsessive

compulsion,

> > > panic attacks, schizophrenia, tourettes syndrome, migraine,

> > > headaches, or inability to concentrate.

> > >

> > > In susceptible individuals mold can also cause dermatitis,

> dizziness,

> > > fatigue, algias, irritability, weakness, burning eyes,

arthritis,

> > > lower IQ, chest pain, shortness of breath, confusion,

> hyperactivity,

> > > symptoms attributed to MS, heart palpitations, cravings for

> sweets or

> > > carbohydrates, gastrointestinal distress such as irritable

bowel,

> > > indigestion, heartburn, etc., and much more.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > >

> > >

> > >

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No apology necessary. I fully understand. Keep on searching for more

and better information and taking chances based on your own

decisions. We all learn more by trying, and have a better chance of

succeeding, than by just following advice from authority.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Sorry Carl, I'm just a lil SICK and CRANKY...forgive me :)

>

>

> > >

> > > Group,

> > >

> > > Maybe it's just me. I found the site from happyuiam

> > > http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html to be quite good about

> > holistic

> > > health. Very informative and objective.

> > >

> > > However, and this is not a criticism of happyuiam, the section on

> > > mold has a much different tone, as most mold sites do. Instead of

> > > " associated with " or " leads to " or " profound impact " it uses

> words

> > > like " causes " or " devasting health problems " or " showers of

> spores

> > > into the air that can be in the millions. " Or, " can do the same

> > > damage to our health as... "

> > >

> > > The point I'm making is why is the rhetoric about mold so

> definite,

> > > adamant and frightening, even inflammatory, when worse conditions

> > are

> > > dealt with more calmly and evenhandedly? Check out the other

> pages

> > on

> > > the site and compare.

> > >

> > > Or is it just me?

> > >

> > > Carl Grimes

> > > Healthy Habitats LLC

> > >

> > > -----

> > > > This is the most symptom entailed list I have found....

> > > >

> > > > http://www.holistichelp.net/mold.html

> > > >

> > > > Recently we have begun to see a rise in mold related health

> > problems

> > > > from toxic molds such as stachybotrys, strains of aspergillus,

> > > > chaetomium and penicillium. Health problems can be so severe

> > that

> > > > some people actually have had to burn their homes.

> > > >

> > > > Although, we are beginning to see a lot of exposure in the

> media

> > > > regarding these molds, and thus it is increasing awareness in

> our

> > > > society about mold related health issues, we often don't hear

> > about

> > > > the devastating health problems that are caused by common

> > everyday

> > > > molds present in all our environments.

> > > >

> > > > Mold is an invisible microscopic organism and it is

> everywhere.

> > It

> > > > is in the air and grows on everything. Typically we can't see

> it

> > > > until it grows into larger colonies. It is the most widespread

> > > > living organism in thousands of varieties indoors and out.

> > > >

> > > > Mold puts out showers of spores into the air that can be in the

> > > > millions. It is present in highest numbers in the spring and

> > fall,

> > > > but is present in all seasons and is often underestimated for

> the

> > > > vast amount of havoc it can perpetrate on one's health.

> > > >

> > > > Molds make toxins called mycotoxins that can do the same damage

> > to

> > > > our health as any chemical such as formaldehyde, toluene,

> natural

> > gas

> > > > or trichloethylene. They can even initiate cancers, cause

> > chemical

> > > > sensitivity and just about any symptom you can think of ranging

> > from

> > > > high blood pressure to depression.

> > > >

> > > > Not only do molds trigger typical organs such as nose, chest or

> > skin

> > > > with allergic rhinitis, sinusitis, asthma, rashes, hives and

> > eczema,

> > > > but the brain can also be the target organ.

> > > >

> > > > Mold can be a primary cause of depression, obsessive

> compulsion,

> > > > panic attacks, schizophrenia, tourettes syndrome, migraine,

> > > > headaches, or inability to concentrate.

> > > >

> > > > In susceptible individuals mold can also cause dermatitis,

> > dizziness,

> > > > fatigue, algias, irritability, weakness, burning eyes,

> arthritis,

> > > > lower IQ, chest pain, shortness of breath, confusion,

> > hyperactivity,

> > > > symptoms attributed to MS, heart palpitations, cravings for

> > sweets or

> > > > carbohydrates, gastrointestinal distress such as irritable

> bowel,

> > > > indigestion, heartburn, etc., and much more.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I have some comments regarding the neurological damage caused by mold exposure.

There have been several papers published on this issue regarding humans and

animals. If you would go to moldenvironment.com I have come to an agreement

with Darlene. We are publishing key abstracts and research paper on role of

microbial infested indoor enviroments and health effects. When one inhales fine

particulates (nanoparticles up to the size of mold spores and hyphae), the

particulates get trapped in the nasal mucosa and the olfactory mucosa. There is

no blood brain barrier with respect to the olfactory area of the nasal cavity.

Studies have shown that when mycotoxins are instilled into the olfactory area of

rodents, the neurons are damaged. In addition, the damage also occurs in the

olfactory lobes of the brain. Not only are mycotoxins involved in this

process, but also endotoxins, glucans, hemolysins, MVOCs, bacterial exotoxins,

etc. Within a reasonable scientific and toxicological probability, the

mechanism of injury in humans is similar to that seen in laboratory animals.

There are synergistic adverse effects between to endotoxins and mycotoxins that

occur in both in vitro and in vivo studies. Finally, both children and adults

in water-damaged structures develop an inflammation of the nasal cavity that is

not related to allergies. This inflammatory condition releases proinflammatory

mediators that are demonstrable in the peripheral blood as well as washings from

the nasal cavity.

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

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This is very true. I have both allergies and mold

illness. The allergies are always tolerable in my case

but dealing with mold illness is a whole different

ball game and something I can not tolerate very well

health wise. I went back to my doctor today and my

sinuses are still not 100% clear. They are much much

clearer but still need more healing. I am better after

being only 3 weeks out of the mold environment and in

a new house, but I do feel the drain and tax it has

put on my whole body and system. I am not using my

nebulizer and c-pap to breath since I have moved here,

so that is the good thing. Just feeling a drastic

difference proves to me that mold is so very bad but

not being 100% well shows it is not just an allergy

issue for those of use who do have allergies as well

as mold exposure illness. It will take time to

recover fully and I hope I can recover 100%. I hope

everyone will recover once they get out...I hope it is

possible for all of us to get well. This is my wish.

--- " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

> I have some comments regarding the neurological

> damage caused by mold exposure. There have been

> several papers published on this issue regarding

> humans and animals. If you would go to

> moldenvironment.com I have come to an agreement with

> Darlene. We are publishing key abstracts and

> research paper on role of microbial infested indoor

> enviroments and health effects. When one inhales

> fine particulates (nanoparticles up to the size of

> mold spores and hyphae), the particulates get

> trapped in the nasal mucosa and the olfactory

> mucosa. There is no blood brain barrier with

> respect to the olfactory area of the nasal cavity.

> Studies have shown that when mycotoxins are

> instilled into the olfactory area of rodents, the

> neurons are damaged. In addition, the damage also

> occurs in the olfactory lobes of the brain. Not

> only are mycotoxins involved in this process, but

> also endotoxins, glucans, hemolysins, MVOCs,

> bacterial exotoxins, etc. Within a reasonable

> scientific and toxicological probability, the

> mechanism of injury in humans is similar to that

> seen in laboratory animals. There are synergistic

> adverse effects between to endotoxins and mycotoxins

> that occur in both in vitro and in vivo studies.

> Finally, both children and adults in water-damaged

> structures develop an inflammation of the nasal

> cavity that is not related to allergies. This

> inflammatory condition releases proinflammatory

> mediators that are demonstrable in the peripheral

> blood as well as washings from the nasal cavity.

> Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

>

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Dr Thrasher.... You deserve a BIG Thank You!!!

>

> I have some comments regarding the neurological damage caused by

mold exposure. There have been several papers published on this

issue regarding humans and animals. If you would go to

moldenvironment.com I have come to an agreement with Darlene. We are

publishing key abstracts and research paper on role of microbial

infested indoor enviroments and health effects. When one inhales

fine particulates (nanoparticles up to the size of mold spores and

hyphae), the particulates get trapped in the nasal mucosa and the

olfactory mucosa. There is no blood brain barrier with respect to

the olfactory area of the nasal cavity. Studies have shown that when

mycotoxins are instilled into the olfactory area of rodents, the

neurons are damaged. In addition, the damage also occurs in the

olfactory lobes of the brain. Not only are mycotoxins involved in

this process, but also endotoxins, glucans, hemolysins, MVOCs,

bacterial exotoxins, etc. Within a reasonable scientific and

toxicological probability, the mechanism of injury in humans is

similar to that seen in laboratory animals. There are synergistic

adverse effects between to endotoxins and mycotoxins that occur in

both in vitro and in vivo studies. Finally, both children and adults

in water-damaged structures develop an inflammation of the nasal

cavity that is not related to allergies. This inflammatory condition

releases proinflammatory mediators that are demonstrable in the

peripheral blood as well as washings from the nasal cavity.

> Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

>

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