Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 mineral body wraps out there. actually, after thinking avout it, this may be much better than saunas because I'm not to sure how good saunas may be on damaged airways. or the mold,baterial risk involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 The doctor I go to once in awhile at a pain clinic, recommended I take a bath for 20-30 minutes with 1 cup of sodium bicarbonate and 1 cup of sea salt (I buy it in bulk at Whole Foods for about 80 cents a pound. It draws the lactic acid out of your muscles to relieve sore muscles. It is really works for sore muscles. He doesn't call it a detox but reminded me of it you mentioning minerals. The skin is so absorbent, I imagine I absorb some of the minerals in the bath. Side benefit is it makes your skin super, super soft and relaxes your muscles. I feel great afterward. I do it once or twice a week. I would imagine epson salts (magnesium salts) could be substituted for sea salt if one does not have a source for sea salt in bulk. > > mineral body wraps out there. actually, after thinking avout it, this > may be much better than saunas because I'm not to sure how good saunas > may be on damaged airways. or the mold,baterial risk involved. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 There are all sorts of things people do to heal themselves. There are huge industries based on it. Like Spas, which are big business. Obviously, these things work for people in a multitude of ways. But trying to get mold toxins out of the body is a fairly specific action. For a lot of us, the damage may already be done. At that point, the thing that people need to focus on is healing. Things like stem cell treatment are a bit longer term but that may also be able to help people who have not been able to get back to where they need to be. Neural progenitor cells are clearly targeted by a number of the worst mycotoxins and the way this happens has been verified in a number of different experiments. I think Dr. Shoemaker is clearly reading about all of this and he is trying to get frontline fairly conservative treatments that clearly work like erythropoitin to people who need them. The stem cell stuff is longer term and it will help a lot of diseases, not just mold illness. But I do think its very significant that its being looked at by the guy who has done a lot of the best research on ochratoxin. There is a lot of convergence going on here. Something that is much more widely available.. Hyperbaric oxygen. See the thrust.. Healing.. After detox comes healing. Time is a great healer too. A very important thing for people to do is TRY TO EXERCISE BOTH PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY... even (especially) if it seems to be almost impossible.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Incidentally, on this topic I mentioned soluable fiber and oatmeal being absorbent but very important to add that even that Dr Marinkovich, who was topic at time, would never advocate eating lots of oatmeal for the soluable fiber, since it is a grain, and he said to avoid grain as much as possible since it is stored for long periods before we can buy it, it has a tendency to be very moldy. He told me if I want to have some on occasion, make it myself, prepare it hot and stir in a little vit c powder to detoxify. He didn't say how much powdered vit c to use, so I use as much as I can without ruining the taste of the oatmeal. I only have a bowl once in awhile. He may have recommended agar agar, as a 'grain-free' source of soluable fiber though. Wanted to clear that up. I eat oatmeal maybe once or twice a week by above method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 To be a hyperbonic bath (if I said that correctly?) I was informed this last week by my treating Dr. the ratio of epsom salt is 5lbs per bathtub. Anyless and your boy absorbs the salts and has a hard time releaseing toxins. barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: The doctor I go to once in awhile at a pain clinic, recommended I take a bath for 20-30 minutes with 1 cup of sodium bicarbonate and 1 cup of sea salt (I buy it in bulk at Whole Foods for about 80 cents a pound. It draws the lactic acid out of your muscles to relieve sore muscles. It is really works for sore muscles. He doesn't call it a detox but reminded me of it you mentioning minerals. The skin is so absorbent, I imagine I absorb some of the minerals in the bath. Side benefit is it makes your skin super, super soft and relaxes your muscles. I feel great afterward. I do it once or twice a week. I would imagine epson salts (magnesium salts) could be substituted for sea salt if one does not have a source for sea salt in bulk. > > mineral body wraps out there. actually, after thinking avout it, this > may be much better than saunas because I'm not to sure how good saunas > may be on damaged airways. or the mold,baterial risk involved. > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Wow, 5 pounds per bath is alot. I don't know much about epson salts, so perhaps they wouldn't work out. The directions from the pain clinic are for sea salt and baking soda. It's similar to using the fancy packaged 'bath salts' only less expensive. I feel ultra clean afterwards. Salt makes the water wetter, like soft water only healthier ingredience. It's really just like the fancy packaged 'bath salts'. Nothing really new except it costs less and I think maybe some benefit from the minerals in the water. I know the skin is very absorbent. I'm not sure what hyperbonic bath is a. Is that a detox bath?? > > To be a hyperbonic bath (if I said that correctly?) I was informed this last week by my treating Dr. the ratio of epsom salt is 5lbs per bathtub. Anyless and your boy absorbs the salts and has a hard time releaseing toxins. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 here's my experience--i used a walk-in FIR sauna almost daily for a year @ 70 minutes each session. i sweated profusely during treatments and *thought* i was sweating away my toxicity. in 2006, i went back to doing Ozone Therapy (medical-grade ozone generator connected to an oxygen tank)...within the 1st week of me doing ear insufflations (using a modified stethoscope connected to the generator), an area on my temple near my left eye which had a red splotch back in 2001 (I had gotten rid of it with a prescription cream), CAME BACK although not as red (so a few shades lighter than the original). my eyelids were puffy (back in 2001, i had back-to-back eye infections). later when i added the steam sauna as a protocol to Ozone Therapy, the exact areas where i was immunized as a child spawned rashes. if i sit here long enough, i'm sure i'll remember more examples, but the bottom line is: any areas of the body that have deeply-stored toxins (even though there is no trace of it prior to Ozone Therapy) will resurface! with regular use of the steam sauna + ozone generator, the toxins will be eradicated....it will come out through the path of least resistance, which will be the skin. not only have i released a lot of toxins, but there were also unexpected benefits to my recovery: 1) my bowel movements are now regular (throughout my life, i sometimes had problems with constipation), 2) i used to always have cold feet--hardly ever now! 3) even before my mold exposure, i used to have to always have kleenex in my purse for when my nose runs--not anymore and my sinus issues/allergies are gone. in essence, Ozone Therapy (used with a steam sauna AND ear insufflations) not only saved my life, but brought forth wonderful unexpected outcomes. > > From what I've heard, general detoxing through sauna is done with the > goal of reducing the body's total burden of toxins, rather than > targeting specific toxins, with the idea that an overall reduction in > toxins helps your body's health in general and your immune system in > general. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 FIR saunas should be fine for airways. using a steam sauna with a medical-grade ozone generator--your head sticks out of sauna so breathing in the gas is minimal. i suppose you could take further precautions by wrapping your neck with a towel before going in sauna. when i was having respiratory problems, there was an asthma kit that i used (attached to the ozone-generator) that i would fill with olive oil--it helped calm down my mild respiratory distress. during my severe respiratory episodes, i stood in front of an open freezer or went for a drive. a few years ago, i couldn't tolerate smelling cologne/perfume and cigarette smoke. nowadays, all of those aren't a problem....however in the last few months, i found out that i can't tolerate scented Raid bug spray very well. > > mineral body wraps out there. actually, after thinking avout it, this > may be much better than saunas because I'm not to sure how good saunas > may be on damaged airways. or the mold,baterial risk involved. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 I've sprinkled 'agar agar' flakes into the broth of soups and child and found they dissolve easily without changing the color or flavor of food, so I'm going to use it like that. Perhaps it will be of some benefit. I might go to see Dr Shoemaker again later this spring..if I'm still alive! I only went once but I couldn't tolerate the CSM at the time and now I can, so I've made some gains in some ways. > >Yes, Dr. M did rec. using it as an alternative to CSM but I haven't > tried it yet. I decided to get the compounded version of CSM instead. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 p.s. The agar agar 'thickened' the liquid so could be used to thicken gravies, soups and sauces without affecting flavor and adding some benefit as a non-grain source of soluable fiber. I got it at Whole Food Store, but imagine it could be picked up where you get 'international foods' in a grocery store but don't know. Just an FYI. Not recommending it as a substitute for CSM. > > I've sprinkled 'agar agar' flakes into the broth of soups and child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Barb, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound so tiffy about looking for refs. Please make sure you are getting good follow up care for your cancer! That sounds really terrifying. Hang in there and make sure you get any pains, itches, etc, you have fully checked out. If agar makes you feel better, more power to you. Maybe someone who has been to Dr.M might know some more about it??? At least it appears (from the MSDS) to have low toxicity (as food additives go) On Jan 26, 2008 2:52 PM, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I've sprinkled 'agar agar' flakes into the broth of soups and child and > found they dissolve easily without changing the color or flavor of > food, so I'm going to use it like that. Perhaps it will be of some > benefit. > I might go to see Dr Shoemaker again later this spring..if I'm still > alive! I only went once but I couldn't tolerate the CSM at the time > and now I can, so I've made some gains in some ways. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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