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This inquiry brings me no peace. Can anyone help me figure out some other way to

look at this or have some insights, especially with the turnarounds?

I am never going to be happy in this relationship.

Is it true?

Well, I can't know for sure that its true because never is an awfully long time.

But its been four years and its true so far. I struggle to find a way to be

happy, to accept him, to answer my friends who don't understand why I haven't

left yet, to not depend on him in any way. Last night he tried to touch me after

several months of me managing to avoid it and I was surprised by how completely

awful and panicked I felt about being intimate with him. It made me realise how

very, very disconnected and angry I am at him.

Can I absolutely know that its true that I'm never going to be happy in this

relationship?

No, of course not. I could change somehow, he could change; I could get a

lobotomy or discover some amazing antidepressants; The Work could help me be

happy... anything could happen.

How do I react when I believe this thought?

I am very sad. I cry. I feel frustrated and scared that I haven't gotten out

before now. I think I'm an idiot. I think I have made a terrible mistake and I'm

too weak to fix it. I look back over the past three years, how I would have

money to get out now if I hadn't spent it on paying his bills while he wasn't

working but was still racking up credit card debt; if I hadn't refinanced the

house to pay his bills I could (probably) afford to live in it without him, and

I kick myself and kick myself for being so weak and stupid.

Who would I be without this thought?

I wouldn't be crying. I would be focused on what I'm going to do today with my

toddler, what's for dinner, what sounds like an interesting place to go to get

out of the house? I wouldn't look at him and see how he's failing us. I would

just see... him, I guess. I'd like to say I would be free to try to find other

ways to be happy, but that's not true - in spite of this thought, I spend a LOT

of energy trying to find other ways to be happy but it hasn't worked.

Sometimes I think my unhappiness with this relationship provides a distraction

from a more general unhappiness. It might be a place to put all the resentment

and anger I feel being a mom, giving up my career, taking care of a little

person's needs all day and night and having no time to myself. If I didn't have

the thought " I am never going to be happy in this relationship " it might be

replaced with the (much more unacceptable to me) thought, " I cannot be happy

being a mom. "

Turn it around:

I am going to be happy in this relationship. Well, I can't know that that's any

more, or less, truer than the original.

He is never going to be happy in this relationship. Probably true, but so what.

My thoughts about this relationship are never going to be happy. I think I'm

having trouble with these turnarounds.

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Hi ,

Looks like this inquiry has uncovered some other stuff for you -

sometimes this is what happens for me, without the thought there are a

bunch of other thoughts to look at. So no peace, just uncovering

more stuff to look at.

Some possible places to go with this are:

- Complete this sentence: I will never be happy in this relationship

because....

- Fill in a complete JYN worksheet on him

and find the judgements / beliefs underneath.

Also you could inquire into the beliefs you uncovered in your original

inquiry:

I gave up my career

He is failing us

I have no time to myself

I have to look after his needs all day and night

With love,

Jon

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Hi ~

I have another suggestion for you. When I am in a relationship that

I believe is not good for me in some way, yet I stay in it, I like to

do the work on what fears are 'keeping' me there...after doing my

work on why I can't leave, I find I am in a more peaceful place where

all sorts of options present themselves and I can either stay or

leave and it has very little to do with the other person ~

good luck, wishing you well

C

>

> Hi ,

>

> Looks like this inquiry has uncovered some other stuff for you -

> sometimes this is what happens for me, without the thought there

are a

> bunch of other thoughts to look at. So no peace, just uncovering

> more stuff to look at.

>

> Some possible places to go with this are:

>

> - Complete this sentence: I will never be happy in this relationship

> because....

>

> - Fill in a complete JYN worksheet on him

>

> and find the judgements / beliefs underneath.

>

> Also you could inquire into the beliefs you uncovered in your

original

> inquiry:

>

> I gave up my career

> He is failing us

> I have no time to myself

> I have to look after his needs all day and night

>

> With love,

>

> Jon

>

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denise.. i had to go back to see if you were the one who

wrote about the chocolate candy..

sounds like he takes you for granted and he likes you

to take care of him. but thats only MY story..

i dont know..

another turn around i am going to be happy without this

relationship.. how is that true.. list the ways..

how long is that list..

Ok maybe im wrong..

RElationships dont make us happy or sad.. except the relationship

with ourselves.. ive read i need your love over again.

have you read that one???

best wishes,

roslyn

>

> This inquiry brings me no peace. Can anyone help me figure out some

other way to look at this or have some insights, especially with the

turnarounds?

>

> I am never going to be happy in this relationship.

>

> Is it true?

>

> Well, I can't know for sure that its true because never is an

awfully long time. But its been four years and its true so far. I

struggle to find a way to be happy, to accept him, to answer my

friends who don't understand why I haven't left yet, to not depend on

him in any way. Last night he tried to touch me after several months

of me managing to avoid it and I was surprised by how completely awful

and panicked I felt about being intimate with him. It made me realise

how very, very disconnected and angry I am at him.

>

> Can I absolutely know that its true that I'm never going to be happy

in this relationship?

>

> No, of course not. I could change somehow, he could change; I could

get a lobotomy or discover some amazing antidepressants; The Work

could help me be happy... anything could happen.

>

> How do I react when I believe this thought?

>

> I am very sad. I cry. I feel frustrated and scared that I haven't

gotten out before now. I think I'm an idiot. I think I have made a

terrible mistake and I'm too weak to fix it. I look back over the past

three years, how I would have money to get out now if I hadn't spent

it on paying his bills while he wasn't working but was still racking

up credit card debt; if I hadn't refinanced the house to pay his bills

I could (probably) afford to live in it without him, and I kick myself

and kick myself for being so weak and stupid.

>

> Who would I be without this thought?

>

> I wouldn't be crying. I would be focused on what I'm going to do

today with my toddler, what's for dinner, what sounds like an

interesting place to go to get out of the house? I wouldn't look at

him and see how he's failing us. I would just see... him, I guess. I'd

like to say I would be free to try to find other ways to be happy, but

that's not true - in spite of this thought, I spend a LOT of energy

trying to find other ways to be happy but it hasn't worked.

>

> Sometimes I think my unhappiness with this relationship provides a

distraction from a more general unhappiness. It might be a place to

put all the resentment and anger I feel being a mom, giving up my

career, taking care of a little person's needs all day and night and

having no time to myself. If I didn't have the thought " I am never

going to be happy in this relationship " it might be replaced with the

(much more unacceptable to me) thought, " I cannot be happy being a mom. "

>

> Turn it around:

>

> I am going to be happy in this relationship. Well, I can't know that

that's any more, or less, truer than the original.

>

> He is never going to be happy in this relationship. Probably true,

but so what.

>

> My thoughts about this relationship are never going to be happy. I

think I'm having trouble with these turnarounds.

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear ,

thank you for your work.

Am 11.01.2008 um 18:09 schrieb :

> This inquiry brings me no peace. Can anyone help me figure out some

> other way to look at this or have some insights, especially with the

> turnarounds?

>

> I am never going to be happy in this relationship.

>

> Is it true?

>

> Well, I can't know for sure that its true because never is an

> awfully long time. But its been four years and its true so far. I

> struggle to find a way to be happy

....

just answer the question.

and keep with that.

> , to accept him, to answer my friends who don't understand why I

> haven't left yet, to not depend on him in any way. Last night he

> tried to touch me after several months of me managing to avoid it

> and I was surprised by how completely awful and panicked I felt

> about being intimate with him. It made me realise how very, very

> disconnected and angry I am at him.

That sounds like your thought is not causing you stress in that

moment. Something else must be.

> Can I absolutely know that its true that I'm never going to be happy

> in this relationship?

>

> No, of course not. I could change somehow, he could change; I could

> get a lobotomy or discover some amazing antidepressants; The Work

> could help me be happy... anything could happen.

> How do I react when I believe this thought?

And it's even a myth.

> I am very sad. I cry. I feel frustrated and scared that I haven't

> gotten out before now. I think I'm an idiot. I think I have made a

> terrible mistake and I'm too weak to fix it. I look back over the

> past three years, how I would have money to get out now if I hadn't

> spent it on paying his bills while he wasn't working but was still

> racking up credit card debt; if I hadn't refinanced the house to pay

> his bills I could (probably) afford to live in it without him, and I

> kick myself and kick myself for being so weak and stupid.

Actually, this looks like a " I'll never be happy " .

You know... if it seems too hard, keep things as simple as possible.

> Who would I be without this thought?

>

> I wouldn't be crying. I would be focused on what I'm going to do

> today with my toddler, what's for dinner, what sounds like an

> interesting place to go to get out of the house? I wouldn't look at

> him and see how he's failing us. I would just see... him, I guess.

> I'd like to say I would be free to try to find other ways to be

> happy, but that's not true - in spite of this thought, I spend a LOT

> of energy trying to find other ways to be happy but it hasn't worked.

Maybe you would just be happy? In the moment? With hope? When you have

been trying other ways... how did that trying feel? Where you excited,

that you may dicover a new path? One filled with happyness? Did you

believe in your success?

> Sometimes I think my unhappiness with this relationship provides a

> distraction from a more general unhappiness.

That is often true. Pain can seem to be a distraction from greater pain.

> It might be a place to put all the resentment and anger I feel being

> a mom, giving up my career, taking care of a little person's needs

> all day and night and having no time to myself. If I didn't have the

> thought " I am never going to be happy in this relationship " it might

> be replaced with the (much more unacceptable to me) thought, " I

> cannot be happy being a mom. "

I'd just go to " I'll never be happy " .

So you are resentful of being a mom.

Is that really true?

And you seem to think that the path " my career " would have put you at

a better place, than the one you are now?

I don't think so.

You would still be with you.

And how do you know wich path you took, when you are alone, watching

tv and the kid is sleeping?

So sometimes you are at the same place as you were if you had taken

that other path.

And I'd say more than not.

> Turn it around:

>

> I am going to be happy in this relationship. Well, I can't know that

> that's any more, or less, truer than the original.

yeah. In this relationship with whom, actually?

> He is never going to be happy in this relationship. Probably true,

> but so what.

His business, anyway.

> My thoughts about this relationship are never going to be happy. I

> think I'm having trouble with these turnarounds.

Yep, because they are not directed to anything. They are unclear. What

does " in this relationship " mean? How often a day are you in the

relationship?

So one turnaround would be:

" I am never going to be happy without this realtionship " .

What about that?

>

Love,

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> I am never going to be happy in this relationship.

>

> Is it true?

>

> Well, I can't know for sure that its true because never is an

> awfully long time. But its been four years and its true so far. I

> struggle to find a way to be happy

...

just answer the question.

and keep with that.

Uh... Okay, I don't understand - am I supposed to answer the question without

putting any thought into it? If the question is: Is it true? and I don't put any

thought into the answer, then the answer is: " I don't know. "

> , to accept him, to answer my friends who don't understand why I

> haven't left yet, to not depend on him in any way. Last night he

> tried to touch me after several months of me managing to avoid it

> and I was surprised by how completely awful and panicked I felt

> about being intimate with him. It made me realise how very, very

> disconnected and angry I am at him.

That sounds like your thought is not causing you stress in that

moment. Something else must be.

I guess the thought is: I can't stand being touched by him right now, and I

should want to be touched by him. But then if I examine why I don't want to be

touched, its because I don't feel happy in the relationship with him. I'm not

sure what else I could be thinking.

> I am very sad. I cry. I feel frustrated and scared that I haven't

> gotten out before now. I think I'm an idiot. I think I have made a

> terrible mistake and I'm too weak to fix it. I look back over the

> past three years, how I would have money to get out now if I hadn't

> spent it on paying his bills while he wasn't working but was still

> racking up credit card debt; if I hadn't refinanced the house to pay

> his bills I could (probably) afford to live in it without him, and I

> kick myself and kick myself for being so weak and stupid.

Actually, this looks like a " I'll never be happy " .

You know... if it seems too hard, keep things as simple as possible.

> Who would I be without this thought?

>

> I wouldn't be crying. I would be focused on what I'm going to do

> today with my toddler, what's for dinner, what sounds like an

> interesting place to go to get out of the house? I wouldn't look at

> him and see how he's failing us. I would just see... him, I guess.

> I'd like to say I would be free to try to find other ways to be

> happy, but that's not true - in spite of this thought, I spend a LOT

> of energy trying to find other ways to be happy but it hasn't worked.

Maybe you would just be happy? In the moment? With hope? When you have

been trying other ways... how did that trying feel? Where you excited,

that you may dicover a new path? One filled with happyness? Did you

believe in your success?

No, even without that thought, I wouldn't be happy. I just wouldn't be

stressed by that thought. It would be one less stressful thought, but there are

still others. Many it feels like.

> It might be a place to put all the resentment and anger I feel being

> a mom, giving up my career, taking care of a little person's needs

> all day and night and having no time to myself. If I didn't have the

> thought " I am never going to be happy in this relationship " it might

> be replaced with the (much more unacceptable to me) thought, " I

> cannot be happy being a mom. "

I'd just go to " I'll never be happy " .

So you are resentful of being a mom.

Is that really true? I think so. Not being a mom, but resentful of not having

any interests of my own anymore, not being able to step outside for a moment

without hearing, Mama! And her crying and banging on the window. Not being able

to talk on the phone without screaming in the background. Not being able to do

anything that isn't focused on her desires (unless I'm willing to tolerate a lot

of crying). Not getting enough sleep. Having to get up every morning when my

body is screaming for just one more hour of sleep.

And you seem to think that the path " my career " would have put you at

a better place, than the one you are now?

I don't think so.

You would still be with you.

And how do you know wich path you took, when you are alone, watching

tv and the kid is sleeping? I am never alone, lol, and the kid doesn't sleep

unless I'm sleeping, too, and most of the time not then, and we don't have tv.

So sometimes you are at the same place as you were if you had taken

that other path. Yes, I'm beginning to realize that, more often than not its

true.

And I'd say more than not.

> Turn it around:

>

> I am going to be happy in this relationship. Well, I can't know that

> that's any more, or less, truer than the original.

yeah. In this relationship with whom, actually?

With my partner? Is this a trick question? Is the answer supposed to be, " with

myself? "

> My thoughts about this relationship are never going to be happy. I

> think I'm having trouble with these turnarounds.

Yep, because they are not directed to anything. They are unclear. What

does " in this relationship " mean? How often a day are you in the

relationship? It means being in the same house at the same time with my

partner.

So one turnaround would be:

" I am never going to be happy without this realtionship " .

What about that?

That sounds awful. How could that be true?

>

Love,

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>

> >

> > I am never going to be happy in this relationship.

> >

> > Is it true?

> >

> > Well, I can't know for sure that its true because never is an

> > awfully long time. But its been four years and its true so far.

I

> > struggle to find a way to be happy

> ...

> just answer the question.

>

> and keep with that.

>

> Uh... Okay, I don't understand - am I supposed to answer the

question without putting any thought into it? If the question is: Is

it true? and I don't put any thought into the answer, then the answer

is: " I don't know. "

*****Remember, the work is a meditation, comtemplative. Sit with the

question until the answer arises. And it is important to keep it to

yes or no in order to not move into justification or defense (which

the mind loves to do) which is moving back into the story and at that

point is not inquiry. And if the answer really is 'i dont know',

does that feel less stressful? it implies an openness to potential

happiness that would feel less stressful for me.

>

> > , to accept him, to answer my friends who don't understand why

I

> > haven't left yet, to not depend on him in any way. Last night

he

> > tried to touch me after several months of me managing to avoid

it

> > and I was surprised by how completely awful and panicked I felt

> > about being intimate with him. It made me realise how very,

very

> > disconnected and angry I am at him.

> That sounds like your thought is not causing you stress in that

> moment. Something else must be.

>

> I guess the thought is: I can't stand being touched by him right

now, and I should want to be touched by him. But then if I examine

why I don't want to be touched, its because I don't feel happy in the

relationship with him. I'm not sure what else I could be thinking.

****You don't feel happy in the relationship for what specific

reasons? Can you find them? How do you want him to change, what

should he be doing differently? These thoughts are at the bottom of

your unhappiness with him and will be of great benefit to put up

against inquiry. Be as specific as possible and keep it to very

simple statements about what is wrong with him or what he does wrong.

> > > I'd like to say I would be free to try to find other ways to

be

> > happy, but that's not true - in spite of this thought, I spend

a LOT

> > of energy trying to find other ways to be happy but it hasn't

worked.

***trying to find happiness while you still beleive the thought is

not the same as being free to discover happiness WITHOUT the

thought. Of course you can't be happy, you still beleive this

thought no matter how much energy you spend trying to find other ways

to be happy. Your belief in this thought will bring stress and

unhappiness no matter how much energy to expend trying to find

something to distract you from it. It has not been undone so energy

cannot really be freed up.

> Maybe you would just be happy? In the moment? With hope? When you

have

> been trying other ways... how did that trying feel? Where you

excited,

> that you may dicover a new path? One filled with happyness? Did

you

> believe in your success?

>

> No, even without that thought, I wouldn't be happy.

****Is this true? Really sit with it. Can you absolutely know what

state you would be in without this thought?

I just wouldn't be stressed by that thought. It would be one less

stressful thought, but there are still others. Many it feels like.

***Of course it feels like many. It sounds like your mind is

coninuing to justify your story. When one stressful thought is truly

undone, it has a domino effect and many other related thoughts can

simply be noticed without stress at all.

>

>

> > It might be a place to put all the resentment and anger I feel

being

> > a mom, giving up my career, taking care of a little person's

needs

> > all day and night and having no time to myself. If I didn't

have the

> > thought " I am never going to be happy in this relationship " it

might

> > be replaced with the (much more unacceptable to me) thought, " I

> > cannot be happy being a mom. "

***This is rich stuff! IF this thought is more unacceptable to you,

then I would definitely be putting down all of your deepest

judgements and resentments about being a mother...get petty, get it

ALL out on paper without trying to hide any of it from yourself...get

serious about really looking at these thoughts and clearing them up

so that you can return to living the joy of being a mother. Try the

hotline, even if there is screaming in the background while you do

the call!

> I'd just go to " I'll never be happy " .

>

> So you are resentful of being a mom.

> Is that really true? I think so. Not being a mom, but resentful

of not having any interests of my own anymore, not being able to step

outside for a moment without hearing, Mama! And her crying and

banging on the window. Not being able to talk on the phone without

screaming in the background. Not being able to do anything that isn't

focused on her desires (unless I'm willing to tolerate a lot of

crying).

***Good to notice that you can focus on other things, you are simply

not willing to tolerate her crying. So you choose one thing over the

other. Again try to seperate anyone of the beliefs above and work

it. You don't have any interests of your own anymore, is that true?

These stressful thoughts may be keeping you from finding creative

ways to get your needs met in a manner that would feel more

satisfying to you. (and I am not saying this flippantly, I have been

a single parent myself and know how impossible it can seem.) You may

also benefit from doing the work on thoughts like:

I need more time to myself

She should not be so needy

It should be easier

I should have more help

When do you find the time to get on the computer to post? Are you

finding time to do your own interests when you post to this group?

It may be helpful to notice the time that you can find that you may

be overlooking as a result of believing thoughts about her needing

you ALL the time. I ask you this not in a confrontational way, simply

to have you look gently at whether it is true that you have no time

for yourself. Reallly questioning this may open up possibilites and

relieve the stress when you do have to be there to meet her needs

(which may be the majority of your waking hours and some sleeping

ones too!!)

Not getting enough sleep. Having to get up every morning when my

body is screaming for just one more hour of sleep.

>

> And you seem to think that the path " my career " would have put

you at

> a better place, than the one you are now?

> I don't think so.

>

> You would still be with you.

>

> And how do you know wich path you took, when you are alone,

watching

> tv and the kid is sleeping? I am never alone, lol, and the kid

doesn't sleep unless I'm sleeping, too, and most of the time not

then, and we don't have tv.

>

> So sometimes you are at the same place as you were if you had

taken

> that other path. Yes, I'm beginning to realize that, more often

than not its true.

>

> And I'd say more than not.

>

> > Turn it around:

> >

> > I am going to be happy in this relationship. Well, I can't know

that

> > that's any more, or less, truer than the original.

***So the point is that it could be as true as the original thought.

The point is to sit until you open up to the polarity of the original

thought, to open your mind to the truth which is that you dont know

what will happen in the future. The opposite of your original

thought, which causes stress and unhappiness, could be AS true. And

that is an open place, not the I know place of misery.

> yeah. In this relationship with whom, actually?

>

> With my partner? Is this a trick question? Is the answer supposed

to be, " with myself? "

***What answer comes up for you? That is the answer that matters.

And it is good to know that happiness is an internal experience and

you have the potential to be happy whether you are in this

relationship or not. The relationship has nothing to do with your

happiness and when you realize that, you can choose to stay or leave

from a hppy , peaceful place.

>

>

> > My thoughts about this relationship are never going to be happy.

***It is your thoughts that create your happiness or unhappiness,

that is the important thing to notice.

I

> > think I'm having trouble with these turnarounds.

> Yep, because they are not directed to anything. They are unclear.

What

> does " in this relationship " mean? How often a day are you in the

> relationship? It means being in the same house at the same time

with my partner.

>

> So one turnaround would be:

> " I am never going to be happy without this realtionship " .

>

> What about that?

> That sounds awful. How could that be true?

***Whatever we find ourselves dealing with is exactly what we

need...it is all there to serve us, to lead us to freedom. No

mistakes. Your situation is Life giving you all that you need to

question in order to find the truth. Everything is medicine, but we

have to be willing to open to the truth rather than to be right. You

could stay or leave this relationship and whether you do it with

stress or peace is the important difference that the Work can make.

Question all of the stressful thoughts (and ALL can sound

overwhelming, whatever you manage to truly put up against inquiry is

enough) that you have about your situation...change will happen on

it's own and you can find inner peace with it all in the meantime if

you want to work with your own thoughts and resistance. A clear mind

moves more effortlessly to responding to life as it appears, that's

what the work ultimately has to offer us all.

Best wishes,

C.

ps. are you able to ask for help from anyone in your life, to ask

for support if you feel you need it? sometimes, it just doenst seem

like there is anyone available, and in those times it is good to

remember that this time will pass..my daughter is 17 yrs old now and

there were times when i thought i would never get a life back.....and

it jsut wasnt true! doing the work helps me to be right here , right

now peacefully and with more joy than i thought possible , and I've

learned to work with what i couldnt change and be as present as i

could, sleeping when i could, and sometimes just getting thru that

day and another one, dragging my tired ass around and being what i

thought was a terrible mother, and i did the best i could and have a

wonderful relationship with ashleigh that i treasure...and eventually

everything shifts and changes....hope this helps. the more you

question your stressful thoughts the more energy you will free up for

youreslf and your daughter. please consider being facilitated by a

live person on the hotline, it can make a huge difference in the

quality of your inquiry. and can be very supportive.

> >

> Love,

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Hi ~

Yes, the hotline is absolutely FREE!! You can find it at

www.thework.com which is Byron s website. You will also find

many other supportive resources there. I just checked the website

and you click on the Resources link at the top of the home page, then

you will see a link about half way down the page for the hotline.

Best wishes

C

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I am never going to be happy in this relationship.

> > >

> > > Is it true?

> > >

> > > Well, I can't know for sure that its true because never is an

> > > awfully long time. But its been four years and its true so

far.

> I

> > > struggle to find a way to be happy

> > ...

> > just answer the question.

> >

> > and keep with that.

> >

> > Uh... Okay, I don't understand - am I supposed to answer the

> question without putting any thought into it? If the question is:

Is

> it true? and I don't put any thought into the answer, then the

answer

> is: " I don't know. "

>

> *****Remember, the work is a meditation, comtemplative. Sit with

the

> question until the answer arises. And it is important to keep it

to

> yes or no in order to not move into justification or defense

(which

> the mind loves to do) which is moving back into the story and at

that

> point is not inquiry. And if the answer really is 'i dont know',

> does that feel less stressful? it implies an openness to

potential

> happiness that would feel less stressful for me.

> >

> > > , to accept him, to answer my friends who don't understand

why

> I

> > > haven't left yet, to not depend on him in any way. Last night

> he

> > > tried to touch me after several months of me managing to

avoid

> it

> > > and I was surprised by how completely awful and panicked I

felt

> > > about being intimate with him. It made me realise how very,

> very

> > > disconnected and angry I am at him.

> > That sounds like your thought is not causing you stress in that

> > moment. Something else must be.

> >

> > I guess the thought is: I can't stand being touched by him

right

> now, and I should want to be touched by him. But then if I

examine

> why I don't want to be touched, its because I don't feel happy in

the

> relationship with him. I'm not sure what else I could be

thinking.

>

> ****You don't feel happy in the relationship for what specific

> reasons? Can you find them? How do you want him to change, what

> should he be doing differently? These thoughts are at the bottom

of

> your unhappiness with him and will be of great benefit to put up

> against inquiry. Be as specific as possible and keep it to very

> simple statements about what is wrong with him or what he does

wrong.

>

> > > > I'd like to say I would be free to try to find other ways

to

> be

> > > happy, but that's not true - in spite of this thought, I

spend

> a LOT

> > > of energy trying to find other ways to be happy but it hasn't

> worked.

>

> ***trying to find happiness while you still beleive the thought

is

> not the same as being free to discover happiness WITHOUT the

> thought. Of course you can't be happy, you still beleive this

> thought no matter how much energy you spend trying to find other

ways

> to be happy. Your belief in this thought will bring stress and

> unhappiness no matter how much energy to expend trying to find

> something to distract you from it. It has not been undone so

energy

> cannot really be freed up.

>

> > Maybe you would just be happy? In the moment? With hope? When

you

> have

> > been trying other ways... how did that trying feel? Where you

> excited,

> > that you may dicover a new path? One filled with happyness? Did

> you

> > believe in your success?

> >

> > No, even without that thought, I wouldn't be happy.

>

> ****Is this true? Really sit with it. Can you absolutely know

what

> state you would be in without this thought?

>

> I just wouldn't be stressed by that thought. It would be one less

> stressful thought, but there are still others. Many it feels like.

>

> ***Of course it feels like many. It sounds like your mind is

> coninuing to justify your story. When one stressful thought is

truly

> undone, it has a domino effect and many other related thoughts

can

> simply be noticed without stress at all.

>

> >

> >

> > > It might be a place to put all the resentment and anger I

feel

> being

> > > a mom, giving up my career, taking care of a little person's

> needs

> > > all day and night and having no time to myself. If I didn't

> have the

> > > thought " I am never going to be happy in this relationship "

it

> might

> > > be replaced with the (much more unacceptable to me)

thought, " I

> > > cannot be happy being a mom. "

>

> ***This is rich stuff! IF this thought is more unacceptable to

you,

> then I would definitely be putting down all of your deepest

> judgements and resentments about being a mother...get petty, get

it

> ALL out on paper without trying to hide any of it from

yourself...get

> serious about really looking at these thoughts and clearing them

up

> so that you can return to living the joy of being a mother. Try

the

> hotline, even if there is screaming in the background while you

do

> the call!

>

> > I'd just go to " I'll never be happy " .

> >

> > So you are resentful of being a mom.

> > Is that really true? I think so. Not being a mom, but resentful

> of not having any interests of my own anymore, not being able to

step

> outside for a moment without hearing, Mama! And her crying and

> banging on the window. Not being able to talk on the phone

without

> screaming in the background. Not being able to do anything that

isn't

> focused on her desires (unless I'm willing to tolerate a lot of

> crying).

>

> ***Good to notice that you can focus on other things, you are

simply

> not willing to tolerate her crying. So you choose one thing over

the

> other. Again try to seperate anyone of the beliefs above and work

> it. You don't have any interests of your own anymore, is that

true?

> These stressful thoughts may be keeping you from finding creative

> ways to get your needs met in a manner that would feel more

> satisfying to you. (and I am not saying this flippantly, I have

been

> a single parent myself and know how impossible it can seem.) You

may

> also benefit from doing the work on thoughts like:

>

> I need more time to myself

>

> She should not be so needy

>

> It should be easier

>

> I should have more help

>

> When do you find the time to get on the computer to post? Are you

> finding time to do your own interests when you post to this

group?

> It may be helpful to notice the time that you can find that you

may

> be overlooking as a result of believing thoughts about her

needing

> you ALL the time. I ask you this not in a confrontational way,

simply

> to have you look gently at whether it is true that you have no

time

> for yourself. Reallly questioning this may open up possibilites

and

> relieve the stress when you do have to be there to meet her needs

> (which may be the majority of your waking hours and some sleeping

> ones too!!)

>

> Not getting enough sleep. Having to get up every morning when my

> body is screaming for just one more hour of sleep.

> >

> > And you seem to think that the path " my career " would have put

> you at

> > a better place, than the one you are now?

> > I don't think so.

> >

> > You would still be with you.

> >

> > And how do you know wich path you took, when you are alone,

> watching

> > tv and the kid is sleeping? I am never alone, lol, and the kid

> doesn't sleep unless I'm sleeping, too, and most of the time not

> then, and we don't have tv.

> >

> > So sometimes you are at the same place as you were if you had

> taken

> > that other path. Yes, I'm beginning to realize that, more often

> than not its true.

> >

> > And I'd say more than not.

> >

> > > Turn it around:

> > >

> > > I am going to be happy in this relationship. Well, I can't

know

> that

> > > that's any more, or less, truer than the original.

>

> ***So the point is that it could be as true as the original

thought.

> The point is to sit until you open up to the polarity of the

original

> thought, to open your mind to the truth which is that you dont

know

> what will happen in the future. The opposite of your original

> thought, which causes stress and unhappiness, could be AS true.

And

> that is an open place, not the I know place of misery.

>

> > yeah. In this relationship with whom, actually?

> >

> > With my partner? Is this a trick question? Is the answer

supposed

> to be, " with myself? "

>

> ***What answer comes up for you? That is the answer that matters.

> And it is good to know that happiness is an internal experience

and

> you have the potential to be happy whether you are in this

> relationship or not. The relationship has nothing to do with your

> happiness and when you realize that, you can choose to stay or

leave

> from a hppy , peaceful place.

>

> >

> >

> > > My thoughts about this relationship are never going to be

happy.

>

> ***It is your thoughts that create your happiness or unhappiness,

> that is the important thing to notice.

>

> I

> > > think I'm having trouble with these turnarounds.

> > Yep, because they are not directed to anything. They are

unclear.

> What

> > does " in this relationship " mean? How often a day are you in

the

> > relationship? It means being in the same house at the same time

> with my partner.

> >

> > So one turnaround would be:

> > " I am never going to be happy without this realtionship " .

> >

> > What about that?

> > That sounds awful. How could that be true?

>

> ***Whatever we find ourselves dealing with is exactly what we

> need...it is all there to serve us, to lead us to freedom. No

> mistakes. Your situation is Life giving you all that you need to

> question in order to find the truth. Everything is medicine, but

we

> have to be willing to open to the truth rather than to be right.

You

> could stay or leave this relationship and whether you do it with

> stress or peace is the important difference that the Work can

make.

> Question all of the stressful thoughts (and ALL can sound

> overwhelming, whatever you manage to truly put up against inquiry

is

> enough) that you have about your situation...change will happen

on

> it's own and you can find inner peace with it all in the meantime

if

> you want to work with your own thoughts and resistance. A clear

mind

> moves more effortlessly to responding to life as it appears,

that's

> what the work ultimately has to offer us all.

>

> Best wishes,

> C.

>

> ps. are you able to ask for help from anyone in your life, to ask

> for support if you feel you need it? sometimes, it just doenst

seem

> like there is anyone available, and in those times it is good to

> remember that this time will pass..my daughter is 17 yrs old now

and

> there were times when i thought i would never get a life

back.....and

> it jsut wasnt true! doing the work helps me to be right here ,

right

> now peacefully and with more joy than i thought possible , and

I've

> learned to work with what i couldnt change and be as present as i

> could, sleeping when i could, and sometimes just getting thru

that

> day and another one, dragging my tired ass around and being what

i

> thought was a terrible mother, and i did the best i could and

have a

> wonderful relationship with ashleigh that i treasure...and

eventually

> everything shifts and changes....hope this helps. the more you

> question your stressful thoughts the more energy you will free up

for

> youreslf and your daughter. please consider being facilitated by

a

> live person on the hotline, it can make a huge difference in the

> quality of your inquiry. and can be very supportive.

>

> > >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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