Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cellsShaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today. As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate. The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through. I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere. Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thank you for your help girls. I am going to look up a Shaklee distributor today and a Colon Hydrotherapy practitioner. It may be expensive but good health is going to be worth it. The big problem with eating melon, nuts, etc. is that I vomit that type of food up. And anything even with a hint of acidity sends me into horrific abdominal pain that will only let up if I take buscopan (further constipating) and piles of Gingerale until enough stays down to stop it. What it seems is I go into pain and the bowel stops moving and those two measures make my stomach rumble so I start up again. But currently my diet is boost, rice, rice crackers, some apple juice, ginger ale and ice milk. I found some butternut squash soup that will stay down, and blame a lot of this on my stomach being quite full of fairly large polyps, not large enough though that they want to try and remove them. I see a surgeon next week to see if he has any suggestions, even trying to remove a few might help! The constipation results from narcotic pain meds due to 3 ruptured discs in my back and intercostal condritis due to open heart surgery. Also I have a weird condition that even mild activity causes severe trouble breathing. Ah Jeannie, Carol, the Canadian Health system causes me a lot of stress. The fact is that Government funded Health care is nice but they become complacent and not interested in trying to help cases that are difficult. They need competition from private clinics. Our surgery wait list for something that is not life threatening can be 8 months to 2 years. When I was diagnosed with kidney cancer it took 5 months to get surgery with being told that “This type of cancer grows very slowly.†This doctor said nothing about the stool left in my system other than I needed to go off all my meds. Great answer, eh? But you have given me some solutions here and I will keep you posted on how they turn out. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:37 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Here's Marty's phone number to speed things up............To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 9:17:03 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Thank you for your help girls. I am going to look up a Shaklee distributor today and a Colon Hydrotherapy practitioner. It may be expensive but good health is going to be worth it. The big problem with eating melon, nuts, etc. is that I vomit that type of food up. And anything even with a hint of acidity sends me into horrific abdominal pain that will only let up if I take buscopan (further constipating) and piles of Gingerale until enough stays down to stop it. What it seems is I go into pain and the bowel stops moving and those two measures make my stomach rumble so I start up again. But currently my diet is boost, rice, rice crackers, some apple juice, ginger ale and ice milk. I found some butternut squash soup that will stay down, and blame a lot of this on my stomach being quite full of fairly large polyps, not large enough though that they want to try and remove them. I see a surgeon next week to see if he has any suggestions, even trying to remove a few might help! The constipation results from narcotic pain meds due to 3 ruptured discs in my back and intercostal condritis due to open heart surgery. Also I have a weird condition that even mild activity causes severe trouble breathing. Ah Jeannie, Carol, the Canadian Health system causes me a lot of stress. The fact is that Government funded Health care is nice but they become complacent and not interested in trying to help cases that are difficult. They need competition from private clinics. Our surgery wait list for something that is not life threatening can be 8 months to 2 years. When I was diagnosed with kidney cancer it took 5 months to get surgery with being told that “This type of cancer grows very slowly.†This doctor said nothing about the stool left in my system other than I needed to go off all my meds. Great answer, eh? But you have given me some solutions here and I will keep you posted on how they turn out. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:37 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I know! We have a private practice here, but dr's here are not familiar with it and I can see them questioning my prep and that I didn't follow their protocol. I think I might have to tho. I found this group when I brought home my gallon of PEG and started looking for info. There it sits in my cupboard, NEVER to be used! I added the colon hydrotherapy info to our petition. Carol Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I just called Marty and left a message. He is probably off to work or something like that. Yikes I wonder if I left my number, I will call back later. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:23 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened Here's Marty's phone number to speed things up............ To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 9:17:03 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Thank you for your help girls. I am going to look up a Shaklee distributor today and a Colon Hydrotherapy practitioner. It may be expensive but good health is going to be worth it. The big problem with eating melon, nuts, etc. is that I vomit that type of food up. And anything even with a hint of acidity sends me into horrific abdominal pain that will only let up if I take buscopan (further constipating) and piles of Gingerale until enough stays down to stop it. What it seems is I go into pain and the bowel stops moving and those two measures make my stomach rumble so I start up again. But currently my diet is boost, rice, rice crackers, some apple juice, ginger ale and ice milk. I found some butternut squash soup that will stay down, and blame a lot of this on my stomach being quite full of fairly large polyps, not large enough though that they want to try and remove them. I see a surgeon next week to see if he has any suggestions, even trying to remove a few might help! The constipation results from narcotic pain meds due to 3 ruptured discs in my back and intercostal condritis due to open heart surgery. Also I have a weird condition that even mild activity causes severe trouble breathing. Ah Jeannie, Carol, the Canadian Health system causes me a lot of stress. The fact is that Government funded Health care is nice but they become complacent and not interested in trying to help cases that are difficult. They need competition from private clinics. Our surgery wait list for something that is not life threatening can be 8 months to 2 years. When I was diagnosed with kidney cancer it took 5 months to get surgery with being told that “This type of cancer grows very slowly.†This doctor said nothing about the stool left in my system other than I needed to go off all my meds. Great answer, eh? But you have given me some solutions here and I will keep you posted on how they turn out. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:37 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 This is all Marty does, I hope he's not on vacation? To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 9:34:01 AMSubject: Re: disheartened I just called Marty and left a message. He is probably off to work or something like that. Yikes I wonder if I left my number, I will call back later. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:23 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened Here's Marty's phone number to speed things up............ To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 9:17:03 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Thank you for your help girls. I am going to look up a Shaklee distributor today and a Colon Hydrotherapy practitioner. It may be expensive but good health is going to be worth it. The big problem with eating melon, nuts, etc. is that I vomit that type of food up. And anything even with a hint of acidity sends me into horrific abdominal pain that will only let up if I take buscopan (further constipating) and piles of Gingerale until enough stays down to stop it. What it seems is I go into pain and the bowel stops moving and those two measures make my stomach rumble so I start up again. But currently my diet is boost, rice, rice crackers, some apple juice, ginger ale and ice milk. I found some butternut squash soup that will stay down, and blame a lot of this on my stomach being quite full of fairly large polyps, not large enough though that they want to try and remove them. I see a surgeon next week to see if he has any suggestions, even trying to remove a few might help! The constipation results from narcotic pain meds due to 3 ruptured discs in my back and intercostal condritis due to open heart surgery. Also I have a weird condition that even mild activity causes severe trouble breathing. Ah Jeannie, Carol, the Canadian Health system causes me a lot of stress. The fact is that Government funded Health care is nice but they become complacent and not interested in trying to help cases that are difficult. They need competition from private clinics. Our surgery wait list for something that is not life threatening can be 8 months to 2 years. When I was diagnosed with kidney cancer it took 5 months to get surgery with being told that “This type of cancer grows very slowly.†This doctor said nothing about the stool left in my system other than I needed to go off all my meds. Great answer, eh? But you have given me some solutions here and I will keep you posted on how they turn out. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:37 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 He called me back shortly after I emailed you. What a pleasant person!!!! He would like me to give him my medical history as he would like to treat my full body rather than one symptom. My only concern there is cost – that is a bit of a worry but I will be up front when I email him and say that. He is quite happy to ship to me on the west coast up in Canada. From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:20 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened This is all Marty does, I hope he's not on vacation? To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 9:34:01 AMSubject: Re: disheartened I just called Marty and left a message. He is probably off to work or something like that. Yikes I wonder if I left my number, I will call back later. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:23 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened Here's Marty's phone number to speed things up............ To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 9:17:03 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Thank you for your help girls. I am going to look up a Shaklee distributor today and a Colon Hydrotherapy practitioner. It may be expensive but good health is going to be worth it. The big problem with eating melon, nuts, etc. is that I vomit that type of food up. And anything even with a hint of acidity sends me into horrific abdominal pain that will only let up if I take buscopan (further constipating) and piles of Gingerale until enough stays down to stop it. What it seems is I go into pain and the bowel stops moving and those two measures make my stomach rumble so I start up again. But currently my diet is boost, rice, rice crackers, some apple juice, ginger ale and ice milk. I found some butternut squash soup that will stay down, and blame a lot of this on my stomach being quite full of fairly large polyps, not large enough though that they want to try and remove them. I see a surgeon next week to see if he has any suggestions, even trying to remove a few might help! The constipation results from narcotic pain meds due to 3 ruptured discs in my back and intercostal condritis due to open heart surgery. Also I have a weird condition that even mild activity causes severe trouble breathing. Ah Jeannie, Carol, the Canadian Health system causes me a lot of stress. The fact is that Government funded Health care is nice but they become complacent and not interested in trying to help cases that are difficult. They need competition from private clinics. Our surgery wait list for something that is not life threatening can be 8 months to 2 years. When I was diagnosed with kidney cancer it took 5 months to get surgery with being told that “This type of cancer grows very slowly.†This doctor said nothing about the stool left in my system other than I needed to go off all my meds. Great answer, eh? But you have given me some solutions here and I will keep you posted on how they turn out. Rae From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:37 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I believe most hospitals do not want to sell a product or service that is not mainstream and tested. When I went to the Mayo Clinic from up here in Canada they did a test and diagnosed my breathing problem but my doctors here do not do that test. Result of that is they do not believe the Mayo’s diagnosis. Interestingly my breathing came on after a tumour was found in my chest cavity and removed. It was growing off my heart and took 8 hours to remove. Since there has been no other cases that had that problem and that surgery, resulting in breathing problems, they refuse to say the breathing is the result of the tumour and surgery. It is not because I would have sued then, up here in Canada it is virtually impossible to sue doctors. From: CAChitter@... Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:27 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 To answer CarolIt's not so much hospitals but Big Pharmaceutical Companies that make the drugs for drs & hospitalsto prescribe to patientsHTH,YvetteSent from my iPhone I believe most hospitals do not want to sell a product or service that is not mainstream and tested. When I went to the Mayo Clinic from up here in Canada they did a test and diagnosed my breathing problem but my doctors here do not do that test. Result of that is they do not believe the Mayo’s diagnosis. Interestingly my breathing came on after a tumour was found in my chest cavity and removed. It was growing off my heart and took 8 hours to remove. Since there has been no other cases that had that problem and that surgery, resulting in breathing problems, they refuse to say the breathing is the result of the tumour and surgery. It is not because I would have sued then, up here in Canada it is virtually impossible to sue doctors. From: CAChitter@... Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:27 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Yes, I so agree. I was thinking the hospitals could make more money by performing the hydrotherapy than prescribing PEG for patients to buy from their own drug store before a colonoscopy. I do wonder how they get insurance to pay for the hydrotherapy part - makes me wonder if I could get my insurance to pay for it if I go to a local practitioner as my pre-colonoscopy cleanse. Carol To answer Carol It's not so much hospitals but Big Pharmaceutical Companies that make the drugs for drs & hospitals to prescribe to patients HTH, Yvette Sent from my iPhone I believe most hospitals do not want to sell a product or service that is not mainstream and tested. When I went to the Mayo Clinic from up here in Canada they did a test and diagnosed my breathing problem but my doctors here do not do that test. Result of that is they do not believe the Mayo’s diagnosis. Interestingly my breathing came on after a tumour was found in my chest cavity and removed. It was growing off my heart and took 8 hours to remove. Since there has been no other cases that had that problem and that surgery, resulting in breathing problems, they refuse to say the breathing is the result of the tumour and surgery. It is not because I would have sued then, up here in Canada it is virtually impossible to sue doctors. From: CAChitter@... Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:27 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Oh, my God, but this makes me wanna scream!!!!! Big Pharma may be big and have lots of (our!!) cash, and they may have their noses surgically attached to politician's butts, but there are more of us consumers - we can effect change if we act as a collective. Things have to change!! How/where do we start? To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: disheartened Yes, I so agree. I was thinking the hospitals could make more money by performing the hydrotherapy than prescribing PEG for patients to buy from their own drug store before a colonoscopy. I do wonder how they get insurance to pay for the hydrotherapy part - makes me wonder if I could get my insurance to pay for it if I go to a local practitioner as my pre-colonoscopy cleanse. Carol To answer Carol It's not so much hospitals but Big Pharmaceutical Companies that make the drugs for drs & hospitals to prescribe to patients HTH, Yvette Sent from my iPhone I believe most hospitals do not want to sell a product or service that is not mainstream and tested. When I went to the Mayo Clinic from up here in Canada they did a test and diagnosed my breathing problem but my doctors here do not do that test. Result of that is they do not believe the Mayo’s diagnosis. Interestingly my breathing came on after a tumour was found in my chest cavity and removed. It was growing off my heart and took 8 hours to remove. Since there has been no other cases that had that problem and that surgery, resulting in breathing problems, they refuse to say the breathing is the result of the tumour and surgery. It is not because I would have sued then, up here in Canada it is virtually impossible to sue doctors. From: CAChitter@... Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:27 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Rae, Did you take PEG before this all happened? To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 1:07:37 PMSubject: Re: disheartened I believe most hospitals do not want to sell a product or service that is not mainstream and tested. When I went to the Mayo Clinic from up here in Canada they did a test and diagnosed my breathing problem but my doctors here do not do that test. Result of that is they do not believe the Mayo’s diagnosis. Interestingly my breathing came on after a tumour was found in my chest cavity and removed. It was growing off my heart and took 8 hours to remove. Since there has been no other cases that had that problem and that surgery, resulting in breathing problems, they refuse to say the breathing is the result of the tumour and surgery. It is not because I would have sued then, up here in Canada it is virtually impossible to sue doctors. From: CAChitter@... Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:27 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Lillu.............omg! too funnyTo: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 4:09:56 PMSubject: Re: disheartened Oh, my God, but this makes me wanna scream!!!!! Big Pharma may be big and have lots of (our!!) cash, and they may have their noses surgically attached to politician's butts, but there are more of us consumers - we can effect change if we act as a collective. Things have to change!! How/where do we start? To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: disheartened Yes, I so agree. I was thinking the hospitals could make more money by performing the hydrotherapy than prescribing PEG for patients to buy from their own drug store before a colonoscopy. I do wonder how they get insurance to pay for the hydrotherapy part - makes me wonder if I could get my insurance to pay for it if I go to a local practitioner as my pre-colonoscopy cleanse. Carol To answer Carol It's not so much hospitals but Big Pharmaceutical Companies that make the drugs for drs & hospitals to prescribe to patients HTH, Yvette Sent from my iPhone I believe most hospitals do not want to sell a product or service that is not mainstream and tested. When I went to the Mayo Clinic from up here in Canada they did a test and diagnosed my breathing problem but my doctors here do not do that test. Result of that is they do not believe the Mayo’s diagnosis. Interestingly my breathing came on after a tumour was found in my chest cavity and removed. It was growing off my heart and took 8 hours to remove. Since there has been no other cases that had that problem and that surgery, resulting in breathing problems, they refuse to say the breathing is the result of the tumour and surgery. It is not because I would have sued then, up here in Canada it is virtually impossible to sue doctors. From: CAChitter@... Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:27 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Actually not before Jeannie, after the Nausea and Vomitting started. I do think, however, that the PEG may have made me unable to fully empty my bowel even after heroic efforts. I am getting another opinion on Monday. From: jeanie ward Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:04 PM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened Rae, Did you take PEG before this all happened? To: miralax Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 1:07:37 PMSubject: Re: disheartened I believe most hospitals do not want to sell a product or service that is not mainstream and tested. When I went to the Mayo Clinic from up here in Canada they did a test and diagnosed my breathing problem but my doctors here do not do that test. Result of that is they do not believe the Mayo’s diagnosis. Interestingly my breathing came on after a tumour was found in my chest cavity and removed. It was growing off my heart and took 8 hours to remove. Since there has been no other cases that had that problem and that surgery, resulting in breathing problems, they refuse to say the breathing is the result of the tumour and surgery. It is not because I would have sued then, up here in Canada it is virtually impossible to sue doctors. From: CAChitter@... Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:27 AM To: miralax Subject: Re: disheartened But hospitals could make so much more on this service than on a plain colonoscopy if they are recovering it through our insurance. Wonder if there's a higher co-pay. Carol  Because big pharma makes no money on water(Hydrotherapy)! Sorry to jump in. Yvette -- Original Message ----- From: Lillu To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: disheartened Wow, this is fantastic. I can't imagine why THIS isn't the preferred method by all hospitals to prep for a colonoscopy! To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:48 AMSubject: Re: disheartened Do you have a colon hydrotherapy practitioner near you? It's a water cleanse that is used by Danbury Hospital in CT and a gi dr in Long Island before colonoscopies (1600 procedures/yr), but private practitioners also do it. Carol http://www.i-act.org/Resources/Danbury%20Hospital.pdf What did he say about the stool still in there? They may need to clean that out? I would imagine that could cause infection? I'm wondering if it's like the other cases we've seen that the PEG deadend the nerves / cells Shaklee Herblax will keep you going with every dose.............it's got natural stimulants to help get everything out. To: miralax Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 8:21:17 PMSubject: disheartened I am so depressed, I just had a colonscopy today.As I am constipated I know I need to do more to clean out. I did 5 days of liquid only, 3 days of laxative. The first day I did 2 Pico Salex and the next 2 days 1.5 bottles each of magnesium citrate.The scope showed quite a bit of stool left in my colon. I am at my wits end what to do about this and I wonder if in some way this contributes to my nausea and vomitting. I wonder if the GI doctor was right. The scope could still get all the way through.I just don't quite know what the solution is. I cannot eat properly so am not nourished right - I don't know what will clean me out. I use Milk of Magnesia and have excellent bowel movements so there is a problems somewhere.Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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