Re: Contamination and computers

[Guest guest]

Computers offgas for years substances called PBDEs as well as lead

dust. I found my worst reactions when my total body was at its

highest from a recent exposure. If you are in the beginning process

of destressing your detox pathways --you can and probably will react.

I had to order a new bed because I started reacting to the flame

retardents in my old bed directly after another exposure. Now I have

an organic one that does not cause the problem. My breathing problem

and lightheadedness were the same for the bed, the computer, etc...By

the way, a huge amount of the lead that is leaching out of waste

landills are from thrown away computers and their components. TVs

also have PBDEs for reference. Many other items that do this also may

be in your home...they will ofgas more if they are heated. I have

been detoxing for several months now and my symptoms (except some of

the brain fog) is greatly reduced even though they will never be gone

entirely. I have completely detoxed my home of any of the items that

may offgas.

http://www.blueegg.com/hot_topics/2007/7/28/healthy-home-primer-

mcdowell/print.go

>

> Hi Folks: I am always amazed at how all the members here seem to

spend

> alot of time at the computer as there are many messages lately and

the

> forum is very busy.I really have to limit myself to the computer as

it

> has a profound affect on the way I feel. I get spacey and I sneeze

> alot, so I do not think I have EMF. Dr. Wm Croft told me that

> electronic equipment is the MOST contaminated thing in your home

and I

> am thinking I may have " spores " or myctoxins in the computer. Any

> thought on this? Anyone else here have reactions to their computer?

My

> computer is my " best friend " at the moment and would be really hard

to

> give up. Did you all get rid of your computers when you left your

> things behind, any way to clean it? Thanks for your help Diane

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

Based on my past personal experience, your problem may have an easy and

inexpensive solution. A number of years ago, I had the same symptoms, at a time

that I had just " bonded " with my computer, and it had become my " best friend " . I

lived without a computer for about a year, during which time, I bought, and

returned, a number of computers and electronic adaptors which could turn my T.V.

set into a computer.

My enlightenment began when I noticed that much of this new electronic

equipment started making me sick, at the very moment that I slid it out of it's

carton, before I even had a chance to plug it in. I started asking myself the

question: " What could all this equipment have in common, that would make me

sick? " They could not ALL have picked up mold during, or after, the

manufacturing process. What all the equipment had in common, was that they were

all NEW!

I had been experiencing a " multiple chemical sensitivity " (MCS) to the

chemicals used in the manufacturing of the computers and their monitors. What

small amount of information I could find, online, only mentioned a study, in

Scandinavia, showing a chemical sensitivity to Monitors.

O.K.-So nothing NEW. And nothing with a monitor. ANSWER: An OLD laptop. The

older-the better. Luckily, I had a friend, who worked in a financial

institution, which was constantly upgrading it's computer equipment, and

THROWING AWAY it's old computers. Old computers have NO resale value-Lucky for

me-and lucky for YOU! I am happy to announce that the bonding between myself

and my OLD laptops has long outlasted the much earlier bonding between myself

and my YOUNG ex-wife.

My suggestion, to you, (don't laugh) is that you walk into your local bank and

ask them if they have any OLD laptops in storage, that they no longer use; and

could they please give you one FOR FREE. You may have to endure some laughter,

but you will eventually hit on a bank that will say " why not? " after their

laughter stops.

Should you live in a " hard-hearted " town with no FREE laptops, make the same

proposition to your local computer repair shop. They might take a few bucks for

an old, but functional, laptop. Remember, the OLDER the BETTER, even if the shop

guy offers you a newer laptop, for the same price. Remember, I'm NOT talking

about an old MODEL, still in it's original carton. I'm talking about a computer

that has " been used to death " , by a former owner. A last resort, would be to

attend a " liquidation auction " for a " going out of business " auctioneer. Make

sure you test the laptop, first, before you bid on it. There will probably be no

other bidders, since anyone who is not " CRAZY', like us, always wants new,

" state of the art " computers.

Sometimes, the answer to our suffering is NOT mold.

P.S.- I just had to return a NEW T.V. for the same reason. A few years ago I

had to return a NEW DVD player. How easy it is, to forget that we will always

have the potential of being made sick, by the things that make other people

happy.

May you and your OLD laptop have many happy years together.

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Diane wrote

Hi Folks: I am always amazed at how all the members here seem to spend

alot of time at the computer as there are many messages lately and the

forum is very busy.I really have to limit myself to the computer as it

has a profound affect on the way I feel. I get spacey and I sneeze

alot, so I do not think I have EMF. Dr. Wm Croft told me that

electronic equipment is the MOST contaminated thing in your home and I

am thinking I may have " spores " or myctoxins in the computer. Any

thought on this? Anyone else here have reactions to their computer? My

computer is my " best friend " at the moment and would be really hard to

give up. Did you all get rid of your computers when you left your

things behind, any way to clean it? Thanks for your help Diane

[Guest guest]

We could not remove our desktop computer from our moldy home until we

had someone take it apart and clean it. There is a cooling fan which

" sucks " in air. Ok, I might not know the technical terms, but the

fellow who cleaned it found lots of " dust " inside.

We were told we could take our laptops with us as they are so small

that very few spores get inside. Still, we did HEPA vacuum them to the

best of our ability.

Hope this helps.

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Hi Folks: I am always amazed at how all the members here seem to

spend alot of time at the computer as there are many messages lately

and the forum is very busy.I really have to limit myself to the

computer as it has a profound affect on the way I feel. I get spacey

and I sneeze alot, so I do not think I have EMF. Dr. Wm Croft told me

that electronic equipment is the MOST contaminated thing in your home

and I am thinking I may have " spores " or myctoxins in the computer.

Any thought on this? Anyone else here have reactions to their

computer? My computer is my " best friend " at the moment and would be

really hard to give up. Did you all get rid of your computers when you

left your things behind, any way to clean it? Thanks for your help Diane

[Guest guest]

a few years ago, i've had to replace my monitor due to allergy-type

symptoms. if u suspect your monitor is an issue, please consider

replacing.

>

> Hi Folks: I am always amazed at how all the members here seem to spend

> alot of time at the computer as there are many messages lately and the

> forum is very busy.I really have to limit myself to the computer as it

> has a profound affect on the way I feel. I get spacey and I sneeze

> alot, so I do not think I have EMF. Dr. Wm Croft told me that

> electronic equipment is the MOST contaminated thing in your home and I

> am thinking I may have " spores " or myctoxins in the computer. Any

> thought on this? Anyone else here have reactions to their computer? My

> computer is my " best friend " at the moment and would be really hard to

> give up. Did you all get rid of your computers when you left your

> things behind, any way to clean it? Thanks for your help Diane

>

[Guest guest]

I would imagine that you could just open up the case outside, blow out

the dust and then let the sunshine do its work.

Barth

S> We could not remove our desktop computer from our moldy home until we

S> had someone take it apart and clean it. There is a cooling fan which

S> " sucks " in air. Ok, I might not know the technical terms, but the

S> fellow who cleaned it found lots of " dust " inside.

S> We were told we could take our laptops with us as they are so small

S> that very few spores get inside. Still, we did HEPA vacuum them to the

S> best of our ability.

S> Hope this helps.

S> -

S>

S> Hi Folks: I am always amazed at how all the members here seem to

S> spend alot of time at the computer as there are many messages lately

S> and the forum is very busy.I really have to limit myself to the

S> computer as it has a profound affect on the way I feel. I get spacey

S> and I sneeze alot, so I do not think I have EMF. Dr. Wm Croft told me

S> that electronic equipment is the MOST contaminated thing in your home

S> and I am thinking I may have " spores " or myctoxins in the computer.

S> Any thought on this? Anyone else here have reactions to their

S> computer? My computer is my " best friend " at the moment and would be

S> really hard to give up. Did you all get rid of your computers when you

S> left your things behind, any way to clean it? Thanks for your help Diane

[Guest guest]

Its not that simple. Even high tech methods like using an air

compressor and soaking PC boards in solvents with agitation was not

successful for me.

Something in there, which may be infinitesimably small, makes me sick.

My situation is probably worst than most.

(very toxic home they were in)

On Jan 22, 2008 9:37 PM, Patilla DaHun <glypella@...> wrote:

> I would imagine that you could just open up the case outside, blow out

> the dust and then let the sunshine do its work.

>

> Barth

>

> S> We could not remove our desktop computer from our moldy home until we

> S> had someone take it apart and clean it. There is a cooling fan which

> S> " sucks " in air. Ok, I might not know the technical terms, but the

> S> fellow who cleaned it found lots of " dust " inside.

>

> S> We were told we could take our laptops with us as they are so small

> S> that very few spores get inside. Still, we did HEPA vacuum them to the

> S> best of our ability.

>

> S> Hope this helps.

>

> S> -

>

> S>

>

> S> Hi Folks: I am always amazed at how all the members here seem to

> S> spend alot of time at the computer as there are many messages lately

> S> and the forum is very busy.I really have to limit myself to the

> S> computer as it has a profound affect on the way I feel. I get spacey

> S> and I sneeze alot, so I do not think I have EMF. Dr. Wm Croft told me

> S> that electronic equipment is the MOST contaminated thing in your home

> S> and I am thinking I may have " spores " or myctoxins in the computer.

> S> Any thought on this? Anyone else here have reactions to their

> S> computer? My computer is my " best friend " at the moment and would be

> S> really hard to give up. Did you all get rid of your computers when you

> S> left your things behind, any way to clean it? Thanks for your help Diane

>

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