Re: Inquiry: If I let go I will die

[Guest guest]

Hi Jon

Well you're right, of course. If you let go, and/or if you hold on, you're

going to die :-) One of the very few things I'm sure of is that every

single one of us is going to die.

Might be worth examining more closely what dying represents to you? Sounds

to me like you may be equating it to failure?

Love

Inquiry: If I let go I will die

Hi all,

I've attached an inquiry below - it's not a new one for me, in fact it

comes up most days - I'd like your suggestions on what I might be

missing in this (turnarounds) also some suggestions on possible areas

to explore to get at the 'roots' of this belief.

With love and thanks,

Jon

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Inquiry: If I let go I will die

Is that true?

I thought so, but no.

How do I react when I believe this thought?

I feel tense, anxious - I feel like I'm fighting the feeling of

tiredness, Another thought is " I should be doing more " and " If I don't

do anything I'll end up in the shit " .

Does this thought bring peace or stress into your life?

Stress - it's a constant kind of background stress /.dis-ease -

whether I'm resisting falling asleep or I'm resisting running or

taking a chance on a job.

Can I think of a single stress-free reason to keep this thought?

I don't want to die :-) This is not a stress-free reason, so I can't

see one - but it is a good area for me to look further at:

I don't want to die because:

It will all have been a waste of time

It will be scary

Life will be over

People won't love me anymore (?)

Can I think of a reason to drop this thought?

Yes, I will feel more at peace - this thought creates a lot of

internal stress.

Who would I be without this thought?

No longer struggling, much more at peace - right now, allowing the bed

to support me - the sense of clinging on to everything for grim life

(there's a picture) goes - like being more relaxed and at peace inside

of everything.

The manicness disappears - the `shit, shit, shit' feeling is no longer

here - more an emptiness than anything else.

Turnarounds:

If I let go I will not die

Yes, will this is true right now - I feel like I've let go and I'm a

lot more at peace. It's more of a relief, a release.

And I can see that when I let go I live - my fear behind this thought

is that I'll run round doing crazy, manic stuff, but it's actually the

thought that encourages that - when I let go of it peace and ease

descends. My mind can run round doing whatever it likes, but I'm no

longer attached to it / being dragged round by it.

If I hold on I will die

Yes, this is definitely what happens - tension in my body, in my

breathing, clinging on for (creating) `grim life'.

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[Guest guest]

I made some notes below...

~ Helen

>

> Hi all,

>

> I've attached an inquiry below - it's not a new one for me, in

fact it

> comes up most days - I'd like your suggestions on what I might be

> missing in this (turnarounds) also some suggestions on possible

areas

> to explore to get at the 'roots' of this belief.

>

> With love and thanks,

>

> Jon

>

> -------------------------

>

> Inquiry: If I let go I will die

Helen? What does Let Go mean? Let Go of what?

>

>

> Is that true?

> I thought so, but no.

>

> How do I react when I believe this thought?

> I feel tense, anxious – I feel like I'm fighting the feeling of

> tiredness, Another thought is " I should be doing more " and " If I

don't

> do anything I'll end up in the shit " .

>

> Does this thought bring peace or stress into your life?

> Stress – it's a constant kind of background stress /.dis-ease –

> whether I'm resisting falling asleep or I'm resisting running or

> taking a chance on a job.

How is resising sleep " not letting go " , Sleeping is letting go?

Letting go of what?

I wonder if you did a worksheet on something more specific than

Letting Go. Do a worksheet on I should not resist sleep. It is

more specific. Generalized fears are hard to dispel. Do a

worksheet on each Letting Go?

>

> Can I think of a single stress-free reason to keep this thought?

> I don't want to die :-) This is not a stress-free reason, so I

can't

> see one – but it is a good area for me to look further at:

>

> I don't want to die because:

>

> It will all have been a waste of time

> It will be scary

> Life will be over

> People won't love me anymore (?)

>

> Can I think of a reason to drop this thought?

> Yes, I will feel more at peace – this thought creates a lot of

> internal stress.

>

> Who would I be without this thought?

> No longer struggling, much more at peace – right now, allowing the

bed

> to support me – the sense of clinging on to everything for grim

life

> (there's a picture) goes – like being more relaxed and at peace

inside

> of everything.

>

> The manicness disappears – the `shit, shit, shit' feeling is no

longer

> here – more an emptiness than anything else.

>

> Turnarounds:

>

> If I let go I will not die

> Yes, will this is true right now – I feel like I've let go and I'm

a

> lot more at peace. It's more of a relief, a release.

>

> And I can see that when I let go I live – my fear behind this

thought

> is that I'll run round doing crazy, manic stuff, but it's actually

the

> thought that encourages that – when I let go of it peace and ease

> descends. My mind can run round doing whatever it likes, but I'm no

> longer attached to it / being dragged round by it.

>

> If I hold on I will die

> Yes, this is definitely what happens – tension in my body, in my

> breathing, clinging on for (creating) `grim life'.

>

[Guest guest]

and there's another turnaround: if i will let go, i will live.

have you cinsidered it?

without the thought of holding on .. you might open your eyes to the

undeniable truth - that you are alive, and thus you'll get connected

to it as long as you are alive.

not to mention the possible outcomes in your life of feeling

connected.

and there's another turnaround..

if you won't let do, you'll die.

a way to look at it, is that when you hold on, you are actually

missing the real life.. you force yourself to control something.. and

not letting the real flow of life to happen to you and to take you.

you have not chosen to come here, you have never chosen your path,

you never knew you'll be in this place.. how can you control it? you

never did!

[Guest guest]

Thank you Facy, Helen and (and who responded directly as

she's just joined the group and is being 'moderated' at the moment, I

assume to make sure she's not a spambot - I'm pretty sure she's not,

although they may well be much more sophisticated than I imagine and be

able to create friendships with people in orde to infiltrate Yahoo

Groups....).

Anyway, I digress - thank you - after posting this inquiry I could feel

something continuing to build - as I received the responses I wanted to

push all of you away, tell you to leave me alone (in much less polite

words than that) - I went away for a while and eventually some sadness

and tears came through - with hindsight, some 'unlovability' has been

building today and it's now broken.

So for me it is realizing that if I hold on, not that I will die - I do

die - I don't have access to all emotions, freedom to be sad, be happy,

be whatever. If I let go, I live, although not in the way I fear

(living in a way that leads to death very soon!).

And thank you - I will continue to explore this as and when it comes up.

Jon x

[Guest guest]

I thought I'd update you on where I am with this belief - it comes up

quite often for me and this morning I " worked it " again.

I have probably worked this belief over 50 times - I've heard

say that I can't let go of a belief, all I can do is inquire and see

if it lets go of me.

I've posted it here if you are interested:

http://www.selfhappiness.com/2008/01/inquiry-if-i-let-go-i-will-die_30.html

However, the short(er) version is that I found something from my past

- as a child I used to have 'restless legs' and my mother used to tell

me to stop moving my feet - I used to sit in the living room trying to

control them - and I can definitely see how I felt like if I let go I

would get into trouble (and did if I stopped thinking about it). I

would sit holding my breath, feeling tense, trying not to move :-)

Since doing the work on this thought this morning my feet and legs

have been shaking, tapping and rubbing away with each other for about

an hour, just doing their own thing as I stay out of their business.

They've just started to slow down a little - it's been like two old

friends getting to know each other all over again!

So thank you for the feedback and comments on my previous inquiry

around this - you definitely got me thinking about what was this

about, probably at a subconscious level more than anything - I feel

like I've just found a piece of buried treasure and much relief :-)

With much love and thanks,

Jon

[Guest guest]

Hi Jon,

Great discovery. Our bodies literallky hold our memories for us.

There is physical and chemical evidence of this. Candace Pert, PhD

has written about this in the book Molecules of Emotion (excellent

book).

Your connection with your legs really helps me to understand what

you meant by If I let go I will die.

Isn't it fun to find beliefs established in childhood that don't

serve us anymore?

Love,

Helen

>

> I thought I'd update you on where I am with this belief - it comes

up

> quite often for me and this morning I " worked it " again.

>

> I have probably worked this belief over 50 times - I've heard

> say that I can't let go of a belief, all I can do is inquire and

see

> if it lets go of me.

>

> I've posted it here if you are interested:

>

> http://www.selfhappiness.com/2008/01/inquiry-if-i-let-go-i-will-

die_30.html

>

> However, the short(er) version is that I found something from my

past

> - as a child I used to have 'restless legs' and my mother used to

tell

> me to stop moving my feet - I used to sit in the living room

trying to

> control them - and I can definitely see how I felt like if I let

go I

> would get into trouble (and did if I stopped thinking about it). I

> would sit holding my breath, feeling tense, trying not to move :-)

>

> Since doing the work on this thought this morning my feet and legs

> have been shaking, tapping and rubbing away with each other for

about

> an hour, just doing their own thing as I stay out of their

business.

>

> They've just started to slow down a little - it's been like two old

> friends getting to know each other all over again!

>

> So thank you for the feedback and comments on my previous inquiry

> around this - you definitely got me thinking about what was this

> about, probably at a subconscious level more than anything - I feel

> like I've just found a piece of buried treasure and much relief :-)

>

> With much love and thanks,

>

> Jon

>