Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Jeannene, As you are a " soon-to-be " mold survivor, let me make you aware of the first rule of survivorship. Rule #1: As you go through your life (as a survivor) it will take smaller, and ever smaller, mold exposures, to make you as sick as you were when you lived in your mold house. You may walk into a relative's house, and all the mold that she will have is a little bit growing around her window, from the normal condensation on any window. Yet, as illogical as this sounds, that tiny bit of mold will make you as sick as you were, when you were living in a house ENTIRELY covered with mold. I am not a doctor, so I can not tell you why your immune system acts that way, but it does. This has been my personal experience, as a mold survivor, myself. My point is, that now that you are OUT of your house, it is a very dangerous and foolhardy spectator sport that you are engaging in. Namely, " watching the demo work on your house. " My rule of thumb [i'm not a professional] would be: If you can still see the house numbers, on the front of your house, USING BINOCULARS, from 2 blocks away, you are STILL too close to the demo work. There are more fun ways to get sick from a " spectator sport " . Visit New York, and I'll treat you to a Mets game. That makes ME sick every year. Best of luck with the demo work. Joe .................................................................................\ ................................................ Jeannene wrote: I'm so angry Posted by: " JALD111 " JALD111@... jald111 Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:19 am (PST) Sick Buildings Information and Support I'm sitting here in an extended stay hotel suite...alone, with my family split up with the kids staying at the grandparents and husband still staying at the house to handle the demo and repairs.................... I went over and sat in front of my house today while I watched them doing some of the demo work. As I sat there, I looked up and down the street at the houses just like mine.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 stopthethyroidmadness.com Read all you can and be your own advocate. No one else will be but you. Ali On Oct 6, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Roni Molin wrote: > I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low > thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor > has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all > tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working > with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH > test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept > complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests > yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be > able to get to the bottom of this mess. > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 dear gina : you make me confused and in a big trouble i didn't understand why i do tsh test every 2 months and i'm confused about the med i'm taking and my diagnosis too i think i must return to my dr to discuss all the information i read in the site you recommended . From: <vegasmomof3@...> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 6:23 AM I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/03/03/ medical-school- ethics-at- _n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidm adness.com <http://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam. com/articles/ adrenal_fatigue. asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I don't mean to confuse you! Sorry about that. I just want people to be their own best health advocates. Learn all you can! You don't have to believe anything I or anyone else says. :-) In the 1970's the TSH test for thyroid function became the 'gold standard' test. It was thought that it would catch any and all thyroid disease better than any of the previous thyroid tests. However, it is now obvious that it does not catch all thyroid disease. There are reports that it can take 20 years for the TSH to show that you are hypothyroid. Even so, most doctors think that the range on the lab is correct, where in reality any TSH over 2.0 should be considered hypothyroid and something be done to correct it. Your doctor making you get your TSH every couple of months is just what they have been taught. The doc doesn't know any better - not really their fault. It takes 10-15 years for something we learn now to make it to teaching it in medical school. And with something this controversial, it may never make it. But there are a few docs who realize that the TSH is not the best test for thyroid function. www.stopthethyroimadness.com <http://www.stopthethyroimadness.com/> <http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp> http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp <http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/> http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/ - This one has a very good explaination of why the TSH isn't a good test for thyroid function. Read through these sites. You will learn a lot! [[i am not a doctor and am not giving medical advice. These are my opinions based on my own personal research.]] _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Shams Salah Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:58 AM hypothyroidism Subject: RE: I'm so Angry dear gina : you make me confused and in a big trouble i didn't understand why i do tsh test every 2 months and i'm confused about the med i'm taking and my diagnosis too i think i must return to my dr to discuss all the information i read in the site you recommended . From: <vegasmomof3@ <mailto:vegasmomof3%40cox.net> cox.net> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 6:23 AM I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/03/03/ medical-school- ethics-at- _n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidm adness.com <http://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam. com/articles/ adrenal_fatigue. asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism@ groups. com] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 , I am truly wondering how WE know that the TSH " is not the best test for thyroid function " , but doctors aren't savvy to this. How did this belief start - where did it come from? I understand that doctors don't issue the standard (i.e. lab norms) - that is/was done via researchers who then hand the info over to Medical Boards, who then teach it to doc who then administer to us. Where did the lab range over 2.0 is hypo come from? How did we arrive at that? Duffy On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:05 AM, <vegasmomof3@...> wrote: > I don't mean to confuse you! Sorry about that. I just want people to be > their own best health advocates. Learn all you can! You don't have to > believe anything I or anyone else says. :-) > > > > In the 1970's the TSH test for thyroid function became the 'gold standard' > test. It was thought that it would catch any and all thyroid disease > better > than any of the previous thyroid tests. However, it is now obvious that it > does not catch all thyroid disease. There are reports that it can take 20 > years for the TSH to show that you are hypothyroid. Even so, most doctors > think that the range on the lab is correct, where in reality any TSH over > 2.0 should be considered hypothyroid and something be done to correct it. > > But there are a few docs who realize that the TSH is not the best test > for thyroid function. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I don't know how we figured out that TSH wasn't the best indicator. I know Broda , MD figured it out in the 1970's, but his theories weren't widely accepted - he went by symptoms and basal temps. As far as the 2.0 TSH being hypo, I'll have to do some research. Maybe from so many of us still having symptoms with TSH's above 2.0? That was me, but according to the doc, my thyroid was normal. I had gained 40lbs in 6 months, was losing my hair, was tired all the time, was aching all the time, and I was only 22 years old (17 years ago)! Thyroid disease ran in my family so I got it tested and it came back 3.5 on a scale of 0-5. But it wasn't my thyroid. Yea right. One of the links I provided has the studies that shows the TSH is not the best indicator. (http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/) There are literally thousands, probably tens of thousands of articles just on thyroid. What doctor has time to look at it all? They rarely read their medical journals that they get - many just don't have time. So, it's not that the info isn't out there, it's just not getting to every doc! All I know is that there are many people who are doing intensive research and have been for years, and that is what they believe. I do my own research and validate anything I read to the best of my ability. Based on my own research and what I can find out via the internet, these things seem to be true. Maybe they aren't, but it makes sense to me that they are. That didn't help much did it? :-) Have you read Broda , MD's book 'Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness'? Or Mark Starr, MD " s book 'Hypothyroidism Type II'? Mark Starr's book is based on Broda research, but is a little more explanatory. Both are excellent reads and I highly recommend everyone with hypothyroidism read them. Your eyes will be opened! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Duffy Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:15 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: I'm so Angry , I am truly wondering how WE know that the TSH " is not the best test for thyroid function " , but doctors aren't savvy to this. How did this belief start - where did it come from? I understand that doctors don't issue the standard (i.e. lab norms) - that is/was done via researchers who then hand the info over to Medical Boards, who then teach it to doc who then administer to us. Where did the lab range over 2.0 is hypo come from? How did we arrive at that? Duffy On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:05 AM, <vegasmomof3@ <mailto:vegasmomof3%40cox.net> cox.net> wrote: > I don't mean to confuse you! Sorry about that. I just want people to be > their own best health advocates. Learn all you can! You don't have to > believe anything I or anyone else says. :-) > > > > In the 1970's the TSH test for thyroid function became the 'gold standard' > test. It was thought that it would catch any and all thyroid disease > better > than any of the previous thyroid tests. However, it is now obvious that it > does not catch all thyroid disease. There are reports that it can take 20 > years for the TSH to show that you are hypothyroid. Even so, most doctors > think that the range on the lab is correct, where in reality any TSH over > 2.0 should be considered hypothyroid and something be done to correct it. > > But there are a few docs who realize that the TSH is not the best test > for thyroid function. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Because so many of us with a million symptoms went to our docs, they tested our TSH, and we were told we were fine, but they could refer us to a Psychiatrist for anti-depressants. This story is VERY common. Ali On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:44 AM, wrote: > I don't know how we figured out that TSH wasn't the best indicator. > I know > Broda , MD figured it out in the 1970's, but his theories > weren't > widely accepted - he went by symptoms and basal temps. As far as the > 2.0 > TSH being hypo, I'll have to do some research. Maybe from so many of > us > still having symptoms with TSH's above 2.0? That was me, but > according to > the doc, my thyroid was normal. I had gained 40lbs in 6 months, was > losing > my hair, was tired all the time, was aching all the time, and I was > only 22 > years old (17 years ago)! Thyroid disease ran in my family so I got it > tested and it came back 3.5 on a scale of 0-5. But it wasn't my > thyroid. > Yea right. > > One of the links I provided has the studies that shows the TSH is > not the > best indicator. > (http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/) There > are > literally thousands, probably tens of thousands of articles just on > thyroid. > What doctor has time to look at it all? They rarely read their medical > journals that they get - many just don't have time. So, it's not > that the > info isn't out there, it's just not getting to every doc! > > All I know is that there are many people who are doing intensive > research > and have been for years, and that is what they believe. I do my own > research and validate anything I read to the best of my ability. > Based on > my own research and what I can find out via the internet, these > things seem > to be true. Maybe they aren't, but it makes sense to me that they are. > > That didn't help much did it? :-) Have you read Broda , MD's > book > 'Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness'? Or Mark Starr, MD " s book > 'Hypothyroidism Type II'? Mark Starr's book is based on Broda > research, but is a little more explanatory. Both are excellent reads > and I > highly recommend everyone with hypothyroidism read them. Your eyes > will be > opened! > > > > _____ > > From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism > ] > On Behalf Of Duffy > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:15 AM > hypothyroidism > Subject: Re: I'm so Angry > > , I am truly wondering how WE know that the TSH " is not the best > test > for thyroid function " , but doctors aren't savvy to this. How did this > belief start - where did it come from? > > I understand that doctors don't issue the standard (i.e. lab norms) > - that > is/was done via researchers who then hand the info over to Medical > Boards, > who then teach it to doc who then administer to us. > > Where did the lab range over 2.0 is hypo come from? How did we > arrive at > that? > > Duffy > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:05 AM, <vegasmomof3@ > <mailto:vegasmomof3%40cox.net> cox.net> wrote: > > > I don't mean to confuse you! Sorry about that. I just want people > to be > > their own best health advocates. Learn all you can! You don't have > to > > believe anything I or anyone else says. :-) > > > > > > > > In the 1970's the TSH test for thyroid function became the 'gold > standard' > > test. It was thought that it would catch any and all thyroid disease > > better > > than any of the previous thyroid tests. However, it is now obvious > that it > > does not catch all thyroid disease. There are reports that it can > take 20 > > years for the TSH to show that you are hypothyroid. Even so, most > doctors > > think that the range on the lab is correct, where in reality any > TSH over > > 2.0 should be considered hypothyroid and something be done to > correct it. > > > > But there are a few docs who realize that the TSH is not the best > test > > for thyroid function. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 , thank you for your thoughtful answer. I will get ahold of one or the other of the books you mention. Ali - I have no idea what you are saying... or how it relates to my comments..... Duffy On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Alison Trotta-Marshall < rubyrain11@...> wrote: > Because so many of us with a million symptoms > went to our docs, they tested our TSH, and we were told we > were fine, but they could refer us to a Psychiatrist > for anti-depressants. > This story is VERY common. > Ali > On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:44 AM, wrote: > > > > > One of the links I provided has the studies that shows the TSH is > > not the > > best indicator. > > (http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/) There > > are > > literally thousands, probably tens of thousands of articles just on > > thyroid. > > > > > > That didn't help much did it? :-) Have you read Broda , MD's > > book > > 'Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness'? Or Mark Starr, MD " s book > > 'Hypothyroidism Type II'? Mark Starr's book is based on Broda > > research, but is a little more explanatory. Both are excellent reads > > and I > > highly recommend everyone with hypothyroidism read them. Your eyes > > will be > > opened! > > > > > > > > _____ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Well, I have not softened. If we hire an attorney, we expect him to give us the best legal advice, and if we hire a doctor we expect him to give us the best medical advice. If he hasn't got time to do his job properly, he shouldn't be doing the job at all. I don't go to a doctor because he's a good family man/woman. I go to a doctor that I have reason to expect that he is going to be able to advise me properly. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <vegasmomof3@...> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 11:23 PM I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I saw one of the doctors from the Holtorf Medical Group on television talking about the swin flu faccine. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > > > > One of the links I provided has the studies that shows the TSH is > > not the > > best indicator. > > (http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/) There > > are > > literally thousands, probably tens of thousands of articles just on > > thyroid. > > > > > > That didn't help much did it? :-) Have you read Broda , MD's > > book > > 'Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness'? Or Mark Starr, MD " s book > > 'Hypothyroidism Type II'? Mark Starr's book is based on Broda > > research, but is a little more explanatory. Both are excellent reads > > and I > > highly recommend everyone with hypothyroidism read them. Your eyes > > will be > > opened! > > > > > > > > _____ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 If it's the clip I saw online, it's actually Dr. Holtorf himself. Fantastic info. _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:05 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: I'm so Angry I saw one of the doctors from the Holtorf Medical Group on television talking about the swin flu faccine. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > > > > One of the links I provided has the studies that shows the TSH is > > not the > > best indicator. > > (http://www.hormonea <http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/> ndlongevitycenter.com/thyroidtreatments1/) There > > are > > literally thousands, probably tens of thousands of articles just on > > thyroid. > > > > > > That didn't help much did it? :-) Have you read Broda , MD's > > book > > 'Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness'? Or Mark Starr, MD " s book > > 'Hypothyroidism Type II'? Mark Starr's book is based on Broda > > research, but is a little more explanatory. Both are excellent reads > > and I > > highly recommend everyone with hypothyroidism read them. Your eyes > > will be > > opened! > > > > > > > > _____ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I certainly don't disagree with you! I think if you are going to be a doctor, there is going to be a certain amount of research you need to do to stay on top of things. I can only say that there is probably very few who actually do that, which is truly sad. It's been a perpetual nighmare because we believed the docs knew what they were talking about. I really don't think most docs intend on giving false info or misleading us. It's just how the system evolved unfortunately. Docs mostly get their info from drug company reps, and their only goal is to make money. That and all the kickbacks docs would get for selling certain drugs. it's just a big mess. You have to do the research yourself and take it to your doc. If they won't listen, find another doc or one of these boards to guide you. It's really sad that it's come to this, but we have to take our health into our own hands. _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:02 PM hypothyroidism Subject: RE: I'm so Angry Well, I have not softened. If we hire an attorney, we expect him to give us the best legal advice, and if we hire a doctor we expect him to give us the best medical advice. If he hasn't got time to do his job properly, he shouldn't be doing the job at all. I don't go to a doctor because he's a good family man/woman. I go to a doctor that I have reason to expect that he is going to be able to advise me properly. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <vegasmomof3@ <mailto:vegasmomof3%40cox.net> cox.net> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 11:23 PM I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingt <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315 ..> onpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthet <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> hyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam. <http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp.> com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> [mailto:hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Timely info. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/08/Big-Bucks-Big- Pharma.aspx I haven't watched the hour long movie yet, but I'm sure it's good. I did read Dr. Mercola's comments. _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:24 PM hypothyroidism Subject: RE: I'm so Angry I certainly don't disagree with you! I think if you are going to be a doctor, there is going to be a certain amount of research you need to do to stay on top of things. I can only say that there is probably very few who actually do that, which is truly sad. It's been a perpetual nighmare because we believed the docs knew what they were talking about. I really don't think most docs intend on giving false info or misleading us. It's just how the system evolved unfortunately. Docs mostly get their info from drug company reps, and their only goal is to make money. That and all the kickbacks docs would get for selling certain drugs. it's just a big mess. You have to do the research yourself and take it to your doc. If they won't listen, find another doc or one of these boards to guide you. It's really sad that it's come to this, but we have to take our health into our own hands. _____ From: hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> [mailto:hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:02 PM hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry Well, I have not softened. If we hire an attorney, we expect him to give us the best legal advice, and if we hire a doctor we expect him to give us the best medical advice. If he hasn't got time to do his job properly, he shouldn't be doing the job at all. I don't go to a doctor because he's a good family man/woman. I go to a doctor that I have reason to expect that he is going to be able to advise me properly. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <vegasmomof3@ <mailto:vegasmomof3%40cox.net> cox.net> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 11:23 PM I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingt <http://www.huffingt <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315 > onpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315 ..> onpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthet <http://www.stopthet <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> hyroidmadness.com/> hyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam. <http://www.drlam. <http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp.> com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp.> com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> [mailto:hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about this.. or have experience with it? I have done some " energy work " with mine and it seemed to be improving for a while. Kindof like it was 'waking up' if you will. let me know! hypothyroidism From: vegasmomof3@... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:23:23 -0700 Subject: RE: I'm so Angry I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Accupuncture is good for clearing blocked energies so that the body can access its own power. It doesn't " cure " anything, as any reputable practitioner will tell you. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Debrah Galloway <debzdeb2@...> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:00 AM Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about this.. or have experience with it? I have done some " energy work " with mine and it seemed to be improving for a while. Kindof like it was 'waking up' if you will. let me know! hypothyroidism From: vegasmomof3@... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:23:23 -0700 Subject: RE: I'm so Angry I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I know 2 people who no longer have Hashimoto's because they changed the way they think. Both are Christians. I believe that our thyroids can " wake up " : ) CW -- I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 It seems to me that if it clears blocked energies causing the body to access its own power that that would be the key. Isn't that what the thyroid really needs..access to power or to the body's own power, so that it can function properly. And yes that may be what thousands of reputable practitioners say here in America, while there are reputable practitioners in China that would say otherwise. Sometimes i feel that we are a little close minded here and think that all we need is a pill to solve all our problems. I " m not saying you do or anyone on this program does. I " m just saying that about many here in America in general. hypothyroidism From: matchermaam@... Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:15:20 -0700 Subject: RE: I'm so Angry Accupuncture is good for clearing blocked energies so that the body can access its own power. It doesn't " cure " anything, as any reputable practitioner will tell you. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Debrah Galloway <debzdeb2@...> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:00 AM Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about this.. or have experience with it? I have done some " energy work " with mine and it seemed to be improving for a while. Kindof like it was 'waking up' if you will. let me know! hypothyroidism From: vegasmomof3@... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:23:23 -0700 Subject: RE: I'm so Angry I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 You can find many websites with " cures " from anything and everything from cancer to hangnail, and for only a few dollars they will be glad to send you the concoctions. Bottom line is there is no known cure for hypothyroidism and anyone who tells you different is painfully lacking in knowledge or is a quack or con artist. .. .. > > Posted by: " Debrah Galloway " debzdeb2@... > <mailto:debzdeb2@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry> > > > Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:59 am (PDT) > > > > > Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism > is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, > essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about > this.. or have experience with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I know 2 people who do not know each other who no longer have hashi's and both of them changed the way they think. Fear, unforgiveness, anger, lust and others can cause the thyroid to stop working. If you can get rid of those stresses than maybe your thyroid can work again. http://store.iblp org/products/RSDS/ CW -- Re: I'm so Angry You can find many websites with " cures " from anything and everything from cancer to hangnail, and for only a few dollars they will be glad to send you the concoctions. Bottom line is there is no known cure for hypothyroidism and anyone who tells you different is painfully lacking in knowledge or is a quack or con artist. .. .. > > Posted by: " Debrah Galloway " debzdeb2@... > <mailto:debzdeb2@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry> > > > Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:59 am (PDT) > > > > > Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism > is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, > essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about > this.. or have experience with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Funny, mine is going away on the iodine protocol. -Ali On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Crystal wrote: > I know 2 people who do not know each other who no longer have > hashi's and > both of them changed the way they think. Fear, unforgiveness, anger, > lust > and others can cause the thyroid to stop working. If you can get rid > of > those stresses than maybe your thyroid can work again. http://store.iblp > org/products/RSDS/ > CW > > -- Re: I'm so Angry > > You can find many websites with " cures " from anything and everything > from cancer to hangnail, and for only a few dollars they will be > glad to > send you the concoctions. Bottom line is there is no known cure for > hypothyroidism and anyone who tells you different is painfully lacking > in knowledge or is a quack or con artist. > > > . > . > > > > > Posted by: " Debrah Galloway " debzdeb2@... > > <mailto:debzdeb2@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry> > > > > > > Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:59 am (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that > hypothyroidism > > is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal > remedies, > > essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about > > this.. or have experience with it? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 actually acupuncture can cure many diseases as any good educated acupuncturist and either Chinese or Japanese practitioner will tell you. I have a Chinese Medical Provider who is also my dentist and she has degrees in both Chinese medicine and dentistry. She uses acupuncture and/or herbs exclusively with many of her medical clients including several with cancer. she has cured people of diseases and conditions using acupuncture. Nancie From: Debrah Galloway Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:46 PM Hypothyroidism Subject: RE: I'm so Angry It seems to me that if it clears blocked energies causing the body to access its own power that that would be the key. Isn't that what the thyroid really needs..access to power or to the body's own power, so that it can function properly. And yes that may be what thousands of reputable practitioners say here in America, while there are reputable practitioners in China that would say otherwise. Sometimes i feel that we are a little close minded here and think that all we need is a pill to solve all our problems. I " m not saying you do or anyone on this program does. I " m just saying that about many here in America in general. hypothyroidism From: matchermaam@... Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:15:20 -0700 Subject: RE: I'm so Angry Accupuncture is good for clearing blocked energies so that the body can access its own power. It doesn't " cure " anything, as any reputable practitioner will tell you. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Debrah Galloway <debzdeb2@...> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:00 AM Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about this.. or have experience with it? I have done some " energy work " with mine and it seemed to be improving for a while. Kindof like it was 'waking up' if you will. let me know! hypothyroidism From: vegasmomof3@... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:23:23 -0700 Subject: RE: I'm so Angry I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to stay up on things. Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315. html Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one is http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp. My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks. After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my hands on and I continue to do so. We have to be our own best health advocates! _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM hypothyroidism Subject: I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I don't know about all the other stuff but I've tried acupuncture for other things that it was supposed to help but it didn't it just caused more pain for me. Bev > > Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about this.. or have experience with it? > > I have done some " energy work " with mine and it seemed to be improving for a while. Kindof like it was 'waking up' if you will. > > let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I don't understand your reference to these people being Christians. What does that have to do with anything? Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:38 PM I know 2 people who no longer have Hashimoto's because they changed the way they think. Both are Christians. I believe that our thyroids can " wake up " : ) CW -- I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 They both allowed the healing that comes from YHWH. -- I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 What does YHWH mean? -- I'm so Angry I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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