Re: Re:Health effects of nonindustrial indoor air pollution ...

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. Thrasher.

Good points. But the main thing is, the allergy community is no longer

being told we are liars and whiners just out to scam insurers for saying a

moldie

has made us sick. And...what is REALLY great is that they are teaching the

physicians to look at indoor air quality as a possible cause of illness.

This means that eventually, when someone is sick with symptoms of mycotic

disease, their doctor will ask about mold, etc in there environment.

How many on this board lived/worked in a moldie environment for years and

were going to the doctor for all kinds of symptoms while no one told them to

look at mold? Most people put it together from talking to others. Think how

many people's health will be saved if when they go to the doctor, they are

told early on in their illness that it could be mold, etc.

Sharon

In a message dated 1/5/2008 4:34:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

Sharon: let us not forget the contributions of Gorny, Brasel, Straus, etc.

on the role of very fine particulates and the deposition of mycotoxins in the

lungs. Dr. Bernstein suggested that this is what is occuring. He did cite

these papers. It is not only the spore, but also the fine paticulates. Also, do

not forget the role of endotoxins, glucans, exotoxin, MVOCs, etc. Sufficient

resereach from Roponens group demonstracte synergism, particularly with

Actinomyctes.

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

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[Guest guest]

I'll add an example to Sharon's point - for many months, we were all told that

our symptoms were in our heads...

Then, FINALLY, my neighbor got an asthma diagnosis, which was the FIRST time a

doctor directly said that the damp conditions in the building were affecting

anyone's health.

He moved (most of us did once we had confirmation that there WAS a connection

between the mold and our health) and his asthma improved, but since no one took

into consideration his seizure disorder or the myriad neurological and

gastrointestinal issues or his Morgellon's disease to realize that he'd been

poisoned, nothing was done to remove the toxins and he died three months after

moving.

If he'd had a doctor realize that he'd been POISONED at some point, MAYBE,

just maybe, we could have been steered toward a CSM protocol or something to get

the toxins out of him before he succombed to mycotoxicosis.

This is really an important turn around...

~Haley

snk1955@... wrote:

Hi Dr. Thrasher.

Good points. But the main thing is, the allergy community is no longer

being told we are liars and whiners just out to scam insurers for saying a

moldie

has made us sick. And...what is REALLY great is that they are teaching the

physicians to look at indoor air quality as a possible cause of illness.

This means that eventually, when someone is sick with symptoms of mycotic

disease, their doctor will ask about mold, etc in there environment.

How many on this board lived/worked in a moldie environment for years and

were going to the doctor for all kinds of symptoms while no one told them to

look at mold? Most people put it together from talking to others. Think how

many people's health will be saved if when they go to the doctor, they are

told early on in their illness that it could be mold, etc.

Sharon

In a message dated 1/5/2008 4:34:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

Sharon: let us not forget the contributions of Gorny, Brasel, Straus, etc.

on the role of very fine particulates and the deposition of mycotoxins in the

lungs. Dr. Bernstein suggested that this is what is occuring. He did cite

these papers. It is not only the spore, but also the fine paticulates. Also, do

not forget the role of endotoxins, glucans, exotoxin, MVOCs, etc. Sufficient

resereach from Roponens group demonstracte synergism, particularly with

Actinomyctes.

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489