Re: Has anyone recovered??

[Guest guest]

For us, leaving the environment was only the beginning of starting to

heal. We needed treatment from mold knowledgeable doctors. It's coming

onto four years and we are much improved but not all the way there yet.

>

> I was wondering, has anyone here recovered or gotten much better

> after mold?

[Guest guest]

I did improve quite a bit here in this 2 year old house in contrast to where

I came from in NC. But I would have to say the symptoms are quite different

and I can relate to the brain fog to the point where it's debilitating. That

and the fatigue (and slight burning sensation). I am sleeping out in my car

at least 10 hours a day and this seems to improve the situation. I don't

think my car is mold free though. But by breaking up my experience with two

highly contrasting envirment's it seems to help a lot. I do have spells of

fatigue that seem to come out of the blue or from no apparent cause. My

clock is completely screwed up now I am going to bed at 5am and getting up

at 12pm. This is synonymous with mold exposure.

During the summer here when the ac was on it was intolerable and drove me

out on the porch because the ac tends to amplify any existing problems the

house has. Generally I think this house is very good as far as mold goes I

am just super sensitized.

Interestingly I do ok with the house shut and the heat on. Although I

probably do best with the windows open.

My theory is a lot of the lumber in these houses has mold on it just dormant

and very inconspicuous or what would be perfectly acceptable for ordinary

people. So I want to try moving out west and living in my home made wood

free truck camper. (I also believe that outdoor ambient mold is a problem

depending on where you live)

I have a theory that eating left overs or foods such as nuts and cereal can

cause us problems if it's not heated enough to kill any living bacteria or

fungi. I really am not sure enough about the theory to tell other people

with any degree of certainty that heating my food helps me yet. But I highly

suspect this. Seems I used to always react to wheat bread but when I toast

it thoroughly I don't. I would be interested if anybody else has tried this

type of diet where " everything " gets cooked to destroy any living organisms

that might be on the food.

On Feb 13, 2008 12:14 PM, jackiebreeze <jackiebreeze@...> wrote:

> I was wondering, has anyone here recovered or gotten much better

> after mold?

> I am in a new home. I have gotten rid of about all I owned that was

> exposed to mold. The air is cleaner around me but I feel so bad! I

> did stop having asthma ASAP after leaving the mold house. I was

> taking the nebulizer treatments 4 times a day. I have only taken it

> once here and that was because I went outside and pruned grape vines

> without a mask...that was 2 weeks ago. I haven't pruned any more.

> Over all I am just so dang tired and fatigued that I can't stand it.

> The brain fog is still making me stupid...I can't even remember my

> own phone number. Will I get over this?

> One other thing that happened is I blew out something which appeard

> to had been in my sinus a long time..not sure what it was but

> wondering if it may had been a fungal ball.,,I guess I will never

> know since there was no culture done..the good thing, it got out

> without surgery. My sinus hurt like crazy after that thing came out

> but it is better now..that was approx a week ago. This is the first

> time I have not had sinus congestion in I don't know how long,

> possibly years.

> All in all, I see things getting better but I still feel so bad. I am

> so tired! I just need to know if this will pass. Is there anything

> I can do or take to speed the healing process and boost my energy?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, if your living in a home with toxic mold in it you have to move dude!!

its an emergency trust me.

robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote: I did improve quite a bit

here in this 2 year old house in contrast to where

I came from in NC. But I would have to say the symptoms are quite different

and I can relate to the brain fog to the point where it's debilitating. That

and the fatigue (and slight burning sensation). I am sleeping out in my car

at least 10 hours a day and this seems to improve the situation. I don't

think my car is mold free though. But by breaking up my experience with two

highly contrasting envirment's it seems to help a lot. I do have spells of

fatigue that seem to come out of the blue or from no apparent cause. My

clock is completely screwed up now I am going to bed at 5am and getting up

at 12pm. This is synonymous with mold exposure.

During the summer here when the ac was on it was intolerable and drove me

out on the porch because the ac tends to amplify any existing problems the

house has. Generally I think this house is very good as far as mold goes I

am just super sensitized.

Interestingly I do ok with the house shut and the heat on. Although I

probably do best with the windows open.

My theory is a lot of the lumber in these houses has mold on it just dormant

and very inconspicuous or what would be perfectly acceptable for ordinary

people. So I want to try moving out west and living in my home made wood

free truck camper. (I also believe that outdoor ambient mold is a problem

depending on where you live)

I have a theory that eating left overs or foods such as nuts and cereal can

cause us problems if it's not heated enough to kill any living bacteria or

fungi. I really am not sure enough about the theory to tell other people

with any degree of certainty that heating my food helps me yet. But I highly

suspect this. Seems I used to always react to wheat bread but when I toast

it thoroughly I don't. I would be interested if anybody else has tried this

type of diet where " everything " gets cooked to destroy any living organisms

that might be on the food.

On Feb 13, 2008 12:14 PM, jackiebreeze <jackiebreeze@...> wrote:

> I was wondering, has anyone here recovered or gotten much better

> after mold?

> I am in a new home. I have gotten rid of about all I owned that was

> exposed to mold. The air is cleaner around me but I feel so bad! I

> did stop having asthma ASAP after leaving the mold house. I was

> taking the nebulizer treatments 4 times a day. I have only taken it

> once here and that was because I went outside and pruned grape vines

> without a mask...that was 2 weeks ago. I haven't pruned any more.

> Over all I am just so dang tired and fatigued that I can't stand it.

> The brain fog is still making me stupid...I can't even remember my

> own phone number. Will I get over this?

> One other thing that happened is I blew out something which appeard

> to had been in my sinus a long time..not sure what it was but

> wondering if it may had been a fungal ball.,,I guess I will never

> know since there was no culture done..the good thing, it got out

> without surgery. My sinus hurt like crazy after that thing came out

> but it is better now..that was approx a week ago. This is the first

> time I have not had sinus congestion in I don't know how long,

> possibly years.

> All in all, I see things getting better but I still feel so bad. I am

> so tired! I just need to know if this will pass. Is there anything

> I can do or take to speed the healing process and boost my energy?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The important thing is to get out so the toxins stop going into your

body and making you worse and worse.

Brain cells are not like cells in other parts of the body in many

respects. I don't think that they all can repair themselves, although

I know that some do (contrary to popular belief) many don't.

But cells in other parts of the bodymay, from what I have read. liver,

kidney, etc..

GETTING MYCOTOXINS OUT IS OF PRIMARY IMPORTANCE.. because they are

doing damage from the minute they touch your skin..

In monkeys, some mycotoxins can stay in the body for months, going

around in enterohepatic recirculation. If someone's body doesn't deal

with them well, its probably longer.. Also, fungi that manage to

establish themselves inside of your body while you are in a weakened

state, as well as bacteria in your gut can produce similar toxins that

need to be removed.. so the healing process can start...

I think that many of the neuro issues we are dealing with are similar

to those faced by people with chemo brain from cancer chemotherapy.

Its worthwhile doing a search on " chemo brain " every few weeks to see

what new research has shown up there. It probably applies to us.

There is an interesting paper in PLoS Biology last year that shows

why... similar mechanisms are at work for a whole spectrum of

toxicants.

http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document & doi=10.1371%2Fjou\

rnal.pbio.0050035 & ct=1

Chemically Diverse Toxicants Converge on Fyn and c-Cbl to Disrupt

Precursor Cell Function

Zaibo Li, Tiefei Dong, Pröschel, Mark Noble*

Department of Biomedical Genetics, University of Rochester Medical

Center, Rochester, New York, United States of America

Identification of common mechanistic principles that shed light on the

action of the many chemically diverse toxicants to which we are

exposed is of central importance in understanding how toxicants

disrupt normal cellular function and in developing more effective

means of protecting against such effects. Of particular importance is

identifying mechanisms operative at environmentally relevant toxicant

exposure levels. Chemically diverse toxicants exhibit striking

convergence, at environmentally relevant exposure levels, on

pathway-specific disruption of receptor tyrosine kinase (RTK)

signaling required for cell division in central nervous system (CNS)

progenitor cells. Relatively small toxicant-induced increases in

oxidative status are associated with Fyn kinase activation, leading to

secondary activation of the c-Cbl ubiquitin ligase. Fyn/c-Cbl pathway

activation by these pro-oxidative changes causes specific reductions,

in vitro and in vivo, in levels of the c-Cbl target platelet-derived

growth factor receptor-α and other c-Cbl targets, but not of the TrkC

RTK (which is not a c-Cbl target). Sequential Fyn and c-Cbl

activation, with consequent pathway-specific suppression of RTK

signaling, is induced by levels of methylmercury and lead that affect

large segments of the population, as well as by paraquat, an organic

herbicide. Our results identify a novel regulatory pathway of

oxidant-mediated Fyn/c-Cbl activation as a shared mechanism of action

of chemically diverse toxicants at environmentally relevant levels,

and as a means by which increased oxidative status may disrupt

mitogenic signaling. These results provide one of a small number of

general mechanistic principles in toxicology, and the only such

principle integrating toxicology, precursor cell biology, redox

biology, and signaling pathway analysis in a predictive framework of

broad potential relevance to the understanding of pro-oxidant–mediated

disruption of normal development. .... follow the link above to read

the full paper for free..

[Guest guest]

On Feb 13, 2008 7:46 PM, E E <photoguys2003@...> wrote:

> , if your living in a home with toxic mold in it you have to move

> dude!! its an emergency trust me.

>

But if I'm living in a new hoime that that probably has less mold than 90%

of the homes anywhere where should I go?

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

? it's hard, I had gotten a different car and it was the only place

not contaminated. I spent a lot of time there too. not really knowing

what had happened to me or what to do with myself. everywhere I moned

made me very ill, weither it was mold, hughway traffic pollution,

timber dust dirt mold grass ect. this apartment I'm in now has been

the first I could tolerate. it's 3 floors up, own entrance and pretty

well sealed off from other apt's. still have some problems with

smells sometimes coming up from below. I know the basement is moldy

so no place to go if tornado comes but oh well. the lady on the first

floor told me the basements bad,so from my experience I wouldn't

think the first floor would be to great either. live and learn is

about all you can do I guess.

>

> > , if your living in a home with toxic mold in it you have

to move

> > dude!! its an emergency trust me.

> >

>

>

> But if I'm living in a new hoime that that probably has less mold

than 90%

> of the homes anywhere where should I go?

>

> > .

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

and Jackie, you also have to try to stop using products with all

those chemicals. Use baking soda, vinegar if tolerable, I can use

unfragranced soaps and detergents. Sometimes you can't tell the

products cause pain, etc. I was very fatigued during my first mold

home but I seem to be rid of the fatigue, but I still don't get out

much. Exercise seems to help joint pain and increase stamina (spell) I

also get those fungal balls once in a while. Had sinus surgury in 1999

and don't ever get stuffy, but sometimes I blow my nose and a large

piece of mucus will come out. Guess you could have it checked out by

having doctor send to a lab but you have to get it to them right away.

Hope this help.

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Is " ozone Therapy " the brand name of the medicine you used? I'd like

to pass the info on to a friend but would appreciate the name and more

information about the product.

Is it easy to use any side effects or problems?

Thanks very much,

Sue

i used an alternative medicine modality called " Ozone Therapy " to get

better. what it does is detoxes the body of toxins. i've tried a lot

of things over the years...and it is simply amazing.

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[Guest guest]

> I am recovering from a mold infestation and am just starting to feel

better-it's been over a year. I also had incredible brain fog that

made me feel so stupid-I couldn't follow the plots of simple movies

and wasn't able to finish crossword puzzles when I used to do them in

record time. That really bothered me but it wasn't like the puzzles

were getting harder. It was real proof that I was getting stupider! I

really got down on myself after that. Now its better and I do the

puzzles every couple of days just to see if I'm getting better and I

am better.

I can suggest 2 things that worked for me but they're crazy so you

just have decide whether you want to try them. I started drinking

chlorophyll from alalfa: its supposed to cleanse your system by

ridding it of toxins and i have to say I think it works. I felt more

energetic almost immediately and after a year feel so improved.

The other thing I do is take really hot baths with about 8 ounces of

hydrogen peroxide. It sucks the toxins right out of you.

Now I understand these two things are strong elements and may not be

right for everybody (I'm lucky that I don't react to bleaches.)

But the chlorophyll is amazing for me!

Good luck!

>

[Guest guest]

in the overall scheme of things, yes, i've recovered. i have 2

cosmetic symptoms left--hoping hair will grow back on the bald areas

of my scalp, and my fingernails to look normal again. my big toes are

slowwwwly growing out the awful fungus, but since i've never been one

to expose/show my feet in public, i don't consider it a symptom. i'm

not on any medications and only take 3 supplements---a multi-vitamin,

Biotin, and a digestive enzyme. i sleep very well, i absolutely have

no fatigue, my outgoing personality is back, my mental abilities are

like pre-exposure (meaning i don't have *brain fog* or memory issues),

etc. i'm currently looking for employment and also have a couple

projects planned.

these are the symptoms i no longer have:

- headaches lasting for extended periods of time (i've never really

gotten headaches before)

- runny nose

- fatigue - it got to be so bad that you couldn't pay me a billion

dollar to stay awake for more than 4 hours at a time

- low-grade fevers - this lasted 3+ years

- occasional respiratory distress

- weight gain of maybe 5-7 pounds

- waking up in the middle of the night to a burning sensation in both eyes

- eye infections

- forgetfulness/memory loss

- difficulty concentrating/focusing/thinking

- a red splotch on my left temple

- " hives " on face

- itchy ears

- green rashes on abdomen & thighs

- toenail fungus on big toes - the fungus part is growing out!!!

- itchy scalp, which progressed to hair loss

- allergy-type symptoms year-round

- sensitivity to smells, particularly cheap cologne & perfume

- loss of muscle mass

- occasional joint pain

- sporadic sharp stabbing pain in my chest

- visual sensitivity to light

- painful showers from the water hitting my skin

- sneezing fits

- itchy & puffy face

i used an alternative medicine modality called " Ozone Therapy " to get

better. what it does is detoxes the body of toxins. i've tried a lot

of things over the years...and it is simply amazing.

>

> I was wondering, has anyone here recovered or gotten much better

> after mold?

> I am in a new home. I have gotten rid of about all I owned that was

> exposed to mold. The air is cleaner around me but I feel so bad! I

> did stop having asthma ASAP after leaving the mold house. I was

> taking the nebulizer treatments 4 times a day. I have only taken it

> once here and that was because I went outside and pruned grape vines

> without a mask...that was 2 weeks ago. I haven't pruned any more.

> Over all I am just so dang tired and fatigued that I can't stand it.

> The brain fog is still making me stupid...I can't even remember my

> own phone number. Will I get over this?

> One other thing that happened is I blew out something which appeard

> to had been in my sinus a long time..not sure what it was but

> wondering if it may had been a fungal ball.,,I guess I will never

> know since there was no culture done..the good thing, it got out

> without surgery. My sinus hurt like crazy after that thing came out

> but it is better now..that was approx a week ago. This is the first

> time I have not had sinus congestion in I don't know how long,

> possibly years.

> All in all, I see things getting better but I still feel so bad. I am

> so tired! I just need to know if this will pass. Is there anything

> I can do or take to speed the healing process and boost my energy?

>

[Guest guest]

Your description of taking a hydrogen peroxide baths, makes me want to

ask you how you can actually tell the toxins are coming out of your

body/pores? I know you can't see them, can you?

[Guest guest]

Just find a home or temporary apartment that does not have any mold in it. not

every home does. you have to get out of your place if it indeed has toxic mold.

go anywhere but there dude!

robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 7:46 PM, E

E <photoguys2003@...> wrote:

> , if your living in a home with toxic mold in it you have to move

> dude!! its an emergency trust me.

>

But if I'm living in a new hoime that that probably has less mold than 90%

of the homes anywhere where should I go?

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

He said he did not have mold in his house. Like me,

many folks did not read his entire post about life

*after* living in a mold house. When I asked if

anyone recovered, many folks wrote saying I needed to

get out of my environment. If they had read my post,

it was about getting out of the environment and into a

new home and still feeling bad. My home was built

last summer. said his house is 2 years old.

said his new house does not have mold and my

house does not have mold either but yet, folks are

telling me I need to move because they choose

selective reading!

My post was about life AFTER getting out of mold and

answered about his life after mold.

BTW, I got some great replies. I want to hear more.

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[Guest guest]

>

> Your description of taking a hydrogen peroxide baths, makes me want to

> ask you how you can actually tell the toxins are coming out of your

> body/pores? I know you can't see them, can you?

>

That's the same thing I asked the person who suggested the baths.

Apparently sometimes the water will change color really weirdly. I

have a friend who would exercise till very sweaty and then in the bath

the water would turn blue from her toxins. The water in the very first

bath I took was a little greenish. Yeah, it's hard to believe. I just

take it on faith and the anecdotal experience seems to point to its

effectiveness. I AM feeling better-maybe its the baths or the

chlorophyll or the fact that its winter and my house is less smelly

now. Who knows? My gut feeling is that the baths are helping.

PS-if the peroxide is too harsh you can use bath salts.

[Guest guest]

Sometimes you have to move.

A 32 year old man in New York City recently bought a co-op apartment

in a well maintained building in a nice neighborhood there for

$14,000. So its not impossible, just very, very, very hard.

This was such an unusual story that the New York Times did a story on

it. They have lotteries for low-income people and people wait as long

as ten years now to get a chance at one, he won one. Before that, he

had been living at his parents house. , do you still have

parents you could move back in with?

Sometimes people have to move.

Emigration might be an option for others.

A Co-op for $14,000? It's No Fiction

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/nyregion/15bigcity.html

On 2/15/08, E E <photoguys2003@...> wrote:

> Just find a home or temporary apartment that does not have any mold in it. not

every home does. you have to get out of your place if it indeed has toxic mold.

go anywhere but there dude!

>

> robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 7:46

PM, E E <photoguys2003@...> wrote:

>

> > , if your living in a home with toxic mold in it you have to move

> > dude!! its an emergency trust me.

> >

>

> But if I'm living in a new hoime that that probably has less mold than 90%

> of the homes anywhere where should I go?

>

> > .

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I must have missed how much Peroxide to use in the bath. A cup?

Thanks

>

> Your description of taking a hydrogen peroxide baths, makes me want to

> ask you how you can actually tell the toxins are coming out of your

> body/pores? I know you can't see them, can you?

>

That's the same thing I asked the person who suggested the baths.

Apparently sometimes the water will change color really weirdly. I

have a friend who would exercise till very sweaty and then in the bath

the water would turn blue from her toxins. The water in the very first

bath I took was a little greenish. Yeah, it's hard to believe. I just

take it on faith and the anecdotal experience seems to point to its

effectiveness. I AM feeling better-maybe its the baths or the

chlorophyll or the fact that its winter and my house is less smelly

now. Who knows? My gut feeling is that the baths are helping.

PS-if the peroxide is too harsh you can use bath salts.

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy

Awards. Go to AOL Music.

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[Guest guest]

hi Sue -

" Ozone Therapy " is a modality (not a product), which encompasses using

a medical-grade ozone generator along with protocol (which can be ear

insufflation, sauna, vaginal insufflation, rectal insufflation,

cupping/funnelling, making ozonated/oxygenated water). if you register

at the OzoneTherapy Forums, you or your friend will be able to

read the testimonials of ppl who have using it for various chronic

illnesses, and also read the questions from *newbies*. the forum

owner is also the manufacturer of the generator where i purchased my

unit from. Duncan in Texas,

http://www.holisticbodyworker.com/ is another good resource for Ozone

Therapy. i've only spoken with him once (last year), when i called on

behalf of someone who was seeking alternatives for cancer.

the 3 things that can be done at home are:

1) Using a steam sauna connected to a medical-grade ozone generator

(which is connected to an oxygen tank); Ozone Therapy combined with

hyperthermia (steam sauna) is a powerful modality and you will see all

the stored toxins being eradicated from your body; normal protocol is

30 minutes daily, but even that may be too much once the rashes and/or

oozing begins....so if need be, drop down to a couple of minutes or

skip a day or two between sauna sessions (but work your way up to 30

minutes at least 5 days a week, which may take a couple of weeks or

months)

2) Using an ear adapter or modified stethoscope connected to the

medical-grade ozone generator; this addresses the toxins in the head

cavity (i've suffered from brain fog, memory loss, eye infections,

hives, mild-grade fevers, allergies, visual light sensitivity--i no

longer have any of these symptoms); normal protocol is 5 minutes

daily, but once your head cavity starts draining fluid out your ears,

do what is tolerable, which could very well be 30 seconds at a time

3) Doing liver flushes/cleanses - this will detox the liver to make

your it work more efficiently and help minimize the Herxheimer effects

from doing the Ozone Therapy protocols; best liver flush/cleanse

protocol is from http://www.sensiblehealth.com .

side effects, hmmmm. well when i first started doing ear

insufflation, a light-yellow liquid drained from my ears. i thought i

was hemorrhaging. i've since realized that the *liquid* had to be

toxins 'cause once the draining wasn't as profuse, my memory & ability

to concentrate/focus were back.

i'm sure i mentioned this in another post, but the evening of my first

sauna treatment, i felt like i was coming down with the flu. i clearly

expected this, aka Herxheimer Effects. the day after my 2nd sauna

treatment, i coughed up a lot of phlegm. i continued coughing up

phlegm for a few months after.

throughout my sauna treatments & ear insufflations, i'd occasionally

have bad sinus drainage days where my nose would run non-stop and i'd

have to blow my nose quite a bit. a couple of times, i've started

tearing. both those things (runny nose & tears) mean all the baddies

are being released.

Ozone Therapy is a powerful modality. you can expect to sleep a lot

more than usual.

perhaps the ickiest part of Ozone Therapy is seeing the rashes and/or

pustules. you'll realize how toxic your body is once these start

surfacing. once all the stored toxins are eradicated from your body,

no more rashes & /or pustules will appear. this could take months...and

that's why i highly recommend doing liver flushes/cleanses BEFORE

undertaking Ozone Therapy.

the key to success is to not let up. don't go too many days between

sauna & /or ear insufflation treatments. doing a little bit at regular

intervals is better than skipping too many days between treatments.

not only have i released a lot of toxins, but there were also

unexpected benefits to my recovery: 1) my bowel movements are now

regular (throughout my life, i sometimes had problems with

constipation), 2) i used to always have cold feet--hardly ever now! 3)

even before my mold exposure, i used to have to always have kleenex in

my purse for when my nose runs--not anymore and my sinus

issues/allergies are gone.

>

>

> , Is " ozone Therapy " the brand name of the medicine you used?

I'd like

> to pass the info on to a friend but would appreciate the name and more

> information about the product.

> Is it easy to use any side effects or problems?

> Thanks very much,

> Sue

>

> i used an alternative medicine modality called " Ozone Therapy " to get

> better. what it does is detoxes the body of toxins. i've tried a lot

> of things over the years...and it is simply amazing.

[Guest guest]

also, i think there are two grades--a 3% hydrogen peroxide & a 35%

hydrogen peroxide.

>

>

> Sorry, I must have missed how much Peroxide to use in the bath. A cup?

> Thanks

>

> >

> > Your description of taking a hydrogen peroxide baths, makes me

want to

> > ask you how you can actually tell the toxins are coming out of your

> > body/pores? I know you can't see them, can you?

> >

> That's the same thing I asked the person who suggested the baths.

> Apparently sometimes the water will change color really weirdly. I

> have a friend who would exercise till very sweaty and then in the bath

> the water would turn blue from her toxins. The water in the very first

> bath I took was a little greenish. Yeah, it's hard to believe. I just

> take it on faith and the anecdotal experience seems to point to its

> effectiveness. I AM feeling better-maybe its the baths or the

> chlorophyll or the fact that its winter and my house is less smelly

> now. Who knows? My gut feeling is that the baths are helping.

> PS-if the peroxide is too harsh you can use bath salts.

[Guest guest]

" Your feet are the gateway to cleanliness "

factoids:

...Each foot has 2,000+ pores through which toxins release

...Toxins are believed to accumulate in the feet as they pass through

the bloodstream

...Harmful toxins, lymphatic fluids and impurities are drawn in to the

foot detox patch

...Our feet have more sweat glands per inch of skin than any other part

of the body, and these glands produce sweat all the time, not just

when it's hot or when you exercise as other parts of the body do

...In one day, each foot can produce more than a pint of sweat!

[Guest guest]

>, do you still have

>parents you could move back in with?

My dad, he might consider it if I got a job somewhere. Our relationship

isn't what it used to be though. This illness has taken way more from me

than just my health.

Besides his house is no better than the one I am currently in. Like I said I

am in a brand new home and the likely hood is that it's better than 90% of

the homes out their. Chances are I wouldn't do any better and every move I

make brings me closer to being bankrupt and on the street.

I think my best hope for salvation is out west in a specialized house made

without wood products.

That's my goal.

[Guest guest]

There are several volumes of peroxide. After

reading the bottle in my kitchen, it says, " DO NOT USE

ON LARGE AREAS OF THE BODY. " This is the 3% kind.

While one person soaking in peroxide it may not harm,

another it can cause serious burning and blisters.

When I was a hairstylist, the state law was that we

could not apply a peroxide containing product without

a skin test first. I have seen people who were so

sensitive to the lowest volume of peroxide that the

scalp blistered up and the hair fell out at the

roots...I am not talking about damaged hair because

the hair was not damaged at all by the peroxide

containing product, just the scalp due to sensitivity.

This was at the hands of careless stylists who did

not take time to do a skin test. Peroxide can cause

more harm than good. It can cause damage to the skin

which will damage your pores. The pores help in

eliminating toxins. There is no way I would chance

damaging my pores with peroxide. Some folks might be

asking for some serious issues in soaking in peroxide.

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[Guest guest]

,

God Bless you bro. I have been sleeping on my moms couch for two years after

moving out and leaving everything behind in my last home that was the toxic mold

source. I know how you feel trust me. I pray that one day i will be back on my

feet again after starting a new treatment next week. I will pray for you as

well.

robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote:

>, do you still have

>parents you could move back in with?

My dad, he might consider it if I got a job somewhere. Our relationship

isn't what it used to be though. This illness has taken way more from me

than just my health.

Besides his house is no better than the one I am currently in. Like I said I

am in a brand new home and the likely hood is that it's better than 90% of

the homes out their. Chances are I wouldn't do any better and every move I

make brings me closer to being bankrupt and on the street.

I think my best hope for salvation is out west in a specialized house made

without wood products.

That's my goal.

[Guest guest]

What is a 'modality'?

[Guest guest]

I know, Jesus washed his disciples feet. Its an ancient custom. But I don't

know how much the feet are involved in mycotoxin metabolism, and I don't

think anyone has discovered mycotoxins coming out through the skin in high

enough amounts to measure. So people are on their own on that. It feels good

though, and its definitely good for your stress level.

Cholestyramine binds mycotoxins from the bile where they build up. Washing

animals feet isn't going to prevent them from dying if they are given cheap

food with mycotoxins in it. Cholestyramine does, so their meat can be sold.

According to journals on animal husbandry.

[Guest guest]

Smart.

I don't know why people do some of these things.

Soap and water are safe, assuming the two are clean.

Make sure the bathtub is super clean too. Bathrooms can harbor lots of

bacteria if

they aren't cleaned regularly. Esp. if the building is chronically damp or

moldy.

Many people soak in " epsom salts " which is like a mineral bath.

Make sure to read the label on the box and bottle and follow it.

Peroxide and/or ammonia? NO THANKS...

On 2/16/08, J <jackiebreeze@...> wrote:

>

> There are several volumes of peroxide. After

> reading the bottle in my kitchen, it says, " DO NOT USE

> ON LARGE AREAS OF THE BODY. " This is the 3% kind.

> While one person soaking in peroxide it may not harm,

> another it can cause serious burning and blisters.

> When I was a hairstylist, the state law was that we

> could not apply a peroxide containing product without

> a skin test first. I have seen people who were so

> sensitive to the lowest volume of peroxide that the

> scalp blistered up and the hair fell out at the

> roots...I am not talking about damaged hair because

> the hair was not damaged at all by the peroxide

> containing product, just the scalp due to sensitivity.

> This was at the hands of careless stylists who did

> not take time to do a skin test. Peroxide can cause

> more harm than good. It can cause damage to the skin

> which will damage your pores. The pores help in

> eliminating toxins. There is no way I would chance

> damaging my pores with peroxide. Some folks might be

> asking for some serious issues in soaking in peroxide.

>

>