Re: Re: OMG, SOMEONE SLAP ME

[Guest guest]

So whats the treatment for colonization?

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: let me put

it this way, mycosis and mycotoxicosis is the same thing,

the only thing deturmining if fungi has colonized in your body or not

is your immune system, and actually the innate immune system, because

mycotoxins suppress the aquired immune system and the innate immune

system regulates the aquired immune system, between these two factors

I'd say the aquired immune system doesn't even come into play until

some point that your out of that environment and practiceing

advoidence and/or if your liver is still able to detox, you get to

some level where the aquired immune system kicks in.

if your colonized which would mean you have inflammation(innate)and

it leads tp reaccuring infections(innate dysfunction)the aquired

immune system may never get activated. and maybe if your innate

immune system still functions (which might be a lesser level of

exposure and damage) and the aquired immune system does kick in but

you have the dreaded HLA factors, than you still wont detox properly

and that may also lead to becomeing colonized, because we know that

people can get colonized without haveing MCS/TE,ect. and without even

being exposed in DMB. like with chemotreatments from hospital mold

because they suppress the immune system to do this.

>

> do you all get what this is saying?

> mycotoxins play a role in mycoses, in colonization,IN OUR BODYS.

> what I've been trying to get people to open their eyes too,

> that fungal infections involes mycotoxins and probably all the

toxins

> assc. with that fungi. fungal infections known in medical lititure

> does not seperate the fungal effects from the toxin effects, it's

all

> one. this is why fungal or toxic vasculitis has the same results,

> fungal or toxic meningitis has the same results. THESE ATE NOT

> SEPERATED IN MEDICAL SCIENCE UNDER THE TERM " FUNGAL INFECTION "

thats

> why i have been able to research this from the beganing by useing

the

> term fungal or fungal infection. fungal=mold and it's toxins, not

> just the mold.

> furthermore, this detection of verruculogen in conidia extracts

> presents opportunitys for the investigation into the potential role

> of inhalation in the intake of mycotoxins in humans

>

> >

> > CONCLUSION:

> > ANALYSIS TECHNIQUES USED IN THIS STUDY ACCORDING TO RESENT FDA

> > RECOMMENDATIONS, CONFERM THE EXISTANCE OF

> > VERRUCULOGEN AND OTHER MYCOTOXINS ASSOCIATED WITH CONIDIA.

> > ----------------------

> > THE RECENT DETECTION OF ABUNDANT RESPIRABLE ERGOT ALKALOIDS

> ASSOCIATED

> > WITH A. FUMIGATUS CONIDIA RAISES THE POSSIBILITY OF THE

RESPIRATORY

> > EPITHELIUM AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE DIGESTIVE ROUTE FOR THE

INTAKE

> OF

> > THESE MYCOTOXINS.

> > ------------------------------

> > 2007-VERRUCULOGEN ASSOCIATED WITH ASPERGILLUS FUMIGATUS HYPHAE

AND

> > CANIDIA MODIFIES THE ELECTROPHYSIOLOGICAL PROPERTIES OF HUMAN

NASAL

> > EPITHELIAL CELLS

> > ( the production of toxins by A. Fumigatus may help the fungus

> colonize

> > by modifying the natural clearance of the respiratory tract.)

> >

> > http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2180/7/5

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think I understand what your saying is you have to shake the fungal

infection before you get better. I have thought this also ever since being

told that people who get valley fever that are lucky enough to recover

develop antibodies and can't get it again.

My thinking is if I can get away from moldy environments long enough and

avoid chemical and pesticide exposures my immune system will gradually start

winning the war it's been fighting for ten years.

Or in other words we may have some type of chronic underlying stealthy yet

to be recognized by science viral , bacterial, or fungal, or some type of

combination of these things that have kept us down. Similar to TB, Lyme's,

herpes, and aids.

So a theory I have is if we can reach Nirvana where we have limited our

exposures to mold sufficiently (that suppress us and make us ill) maybe by

removing the stress over time we could slowly recover.

On Feb 13, 2008 12:23 PM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> let me put it this way, mycosis and mycotoxicosis is the same thing,

> the only thing deturmining if fungi has colonized in your body or not

> is your immune system, and actually the innate immune system, because

> mycotoxins suppress the aquired immune system and the innate immune

> system regulates the aquired immune system, between these two factors

> I'd say the aquired immune system doesn't even come into play until

> some point that your out of that environment and practiceing

> advoidence and/or if your liver is still able to detox, you get to

> some level where the aquired immune system kicks in.

> if your colonized which would mean you have inflammation(innate)and

> it leads tp reaccuring infections(innate dysfunction)the aquired

> immune system may never get activated. and maybe if your innate

> immune system still functions (which might be a lesser level of

> exposure and damage) and the aquired immune system does kick in but

> you have the dreaded HLA factors, than you still wont detox properly

> and that may also lead to becomeing colonized, because we know that

> people can get colonized without haveing MCS/TE,ect. and without even

> being exposed in DMB. like with chemotreatments from hospital mold

> because they suppress the immune system to do this.

>

>

>

> >

> > do you all get what this is saying?

> > mycotoxins play a role in mycoses, in colonization,IN OUR BODYS.

> > what I've been trying to get people to open their eyes too,

> > that fungal infections involes mycotoxins and probably all the

> toxins

> > assc. with that fungi. fungal infections known in medical lititure

> > does not seperate the fungal effects from the toxin effects, it's

> all

> > one. this is why fungal or toxic vasculitis has the same results,

> > fungal or toxic meningitis has the same results. THESE ATE NOT

> > SEPERATED IN MEDICAL SCIENCE UNDER THE TERM " FUNGAL INFECTION "

> thats

> > why i have been able to research this from the beganing by useing

> the

> > term fungal or fungal infection. fungal=mold and it's toxins, not

> > just the mold.

> > furthermore, this detection of verruculogen in conidia extracts

> > presents opportunitys for the investigation into the potential role

> > of inhalation in the intake of mycotoxins in humans

> >

> > >

> > > CONCLUSION:

> > > ANALYSIS TECHNIQUES USED IN THIS STUDY ACCORDING TO RESENT FDA

> > > RECOMMENDATIONS, CONFERM THE EXISTANCE OF

> > > VERRUCULOGEN AND OTHER MYCOTOXINS ASSOCIATED WITH CONIDIA.

> > > ----------------------

> > > THE RECENT DETECTION OF ABUNDANT RESPIRABLE ERGOT ALKALOIDS

> > ASSOCIATED

> > > WITH A. FUMIGATUS CONIDIA RAISES THE POSSIBILITY OF THE

> RESPIRATORY

> > > EPITHELIUM AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE DIGESTIVE ROUTE FOR THE

> INTAKE

> > OF

> > > THESE MYCOTOXINS.

> > > ------------------------------

> > > 2007-VERRUCULOGEN ASSOCIATED WITH ASPERGILLUS FUMIGATUS HYPHAE

> AND

> > > CANIDIA MODIFIES THE ELECTROPHYSIOLOGICAL PROPERTIES OF HUMAN

> NASAL

> > > EPITHELIAL CELLS

> > > ( the production of toxins by A. Fumigatus may help the fungus

> > colonize

> > > by modifying the natural clearance of the respiratory tract.)

> > >

> > > http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2180/7/5

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Your body does not remove the mycotoxins on its own. you need some help. for

some reference for you here is a website of a doctor and is a mold specialist.

biotoxin.info

robert christ <antares4141@...> wrote:

I think I understand what your saying is you have to shake the fungal

infection before you get better. I have thought this also ever since being

told that people who get valley fever that are lucky enough to recover

develop antibodies and can't get it again.