Re: How do you test to see if health issues are from toxic ex...

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Sue

I am looking into heavy metal toxicity but am wondering is there a simple

test that could help

me figure out if this is a mycotoxin exposure?

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Jackie,

Those are good questions. I am not a doctor, so take this for what it is

worth.

Sometimes it is difficult to determine what is the actual causation of your

illness. Sometimes it is environmental, sometimes its not.

If you suspect it is environmental, then you have to be a self investigator.

Treat it just like you would if you were trying to understand a food

allergy.

I wouldn't think the first reaction would be to go and have a lot of tests

done without even having a clue of what might be the culprit. You could spend

a fortune and still not get any real answers.

I would think that one would want to determine what is the most likely

environmental exposure that is causing the illness. Then read up on what kind

of

natural remedies help to rid the body of that element. If that seems to make

a difference, then follow that trail further.

If not, then think about what is the second most logical...follow that trail.

Sometimes it can be a combination of things. So sometimes you may never know

the true cause. But, you might find things along the way that help to

improve your health, regardless.

I will say this, based on what you have written, if it were me, even if mold

was not the cause of my family's illness, if there was an atypical amount of

mold in my environment I would highly suspect that it is at least

contributing.

Good luck,

Sharon K

In a message dated 2/3/2008 6:51:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

jackiedevries@... writes:

Hi, I've been working through CFS for 3 years, getting better but still have

severe reactions to

food plus other interesting neurological issues. Sometimes I have a very

itchy throat in the

AM, which I relate to autoimune issues and my thyroid, but who knows. My GI

track has

issues, I need to take lots of support for proper digestion. My husband is

fatigued too and

know my son has similar GI tract issues.

I am looking into heavy metal toxicity but am wondering is there a simple

test that could help

me figure out if this is a mycotoxin exposure?

I am a newby and sometimes just feel like I am really getting paranoid. What

are useful

resources for me to read? How do you really test a house for mold? Is there

medical testing

that can clarify if illness is from mold toxicity?

Thanks for pointers, Jackie

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Jackie,

Sharon K has given you some good tips on what to do before spending a

lot of money.

Here are some tips from a parent with a child that has gastro

problems.

Eliminate the possibilities. Start with food. Put the family on a

simple menu and re-add food items every few days. This way you may

find it is just a change in diet that will make them feel better.

Your Home. Make sure that any filters in the home are changed

regularly per the manufacturer's specifications. I change our house

filter about every month or two depending on the weather, if

possible, use HEPA filters.

I also use air cleaners throughout my home. I only use them during

the seasons when I can't open the windows, like during heating season.

Ozoning also helps but make sure it is something that is right for

your family.

Try and pinpoint when the symptoms are the worst. Such as, in the

family car, at school, at work, etc.

Then break it down further. Is it during lunch; at the gas station;

in a specific room. What are they doing when the symptom occurs.

Are they working out, eating, sleeping, etc.

Take each family member's symptoms and research the " causes of ... "

or " chemicals that cause ... " or " types of mold that causes ... " via

the internet. Check several sights to verify your information

because there is also a lot of misinformation on the web, but there

is also reliable information.

It is not hard to pinpoint a cause if you are willing to roll up your

sleeves and dig in. I have many more suggestions, but first you need

to determine a general location where the symptoms are most

frequently occurring. That is unless you find it to be food or

clothing. Yes, even clothing can be a problem.

It can be your laundry detergent, perfumes, deodorants, household

cleaners, and the list goes on.

There will be a lot of discouragement when you address mold as the

source of health issues. So do your homework and eliminate as many

other causes as possible.

I am just one mom who needed to know, so I took the time and dug in.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel; it just takes time and

effort. Reach out to friends, co-workers, etc. Sometimes you can be

amazed that your family member is not the only one with this problem.

Work together.

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>

>

> Jackie,

>

> Those are good questions. I am not a doctor, so take this for what

it is

> worth.

>

> Sometimes it is difficult to determine what is the actual causation

of your

> illness. Sometimes it is environmental, sometimes its not.

>

[Guest guest]

first thing you may want to do is leave the house and see if anyone

notices felling better while gone and worse apon returning. maybe

even stay away a few days, take only cotton cloths and wash them.

keep the ones you leave with in plastic bag. wash sinuses and pay

close attn. to what you smell when you first return, and if symptoms

come back. basicly, if it's not chaseing you out of the house yet, it

may be a lower dose situation. harder to realize but hopefully tring

this well help you deturmine if it's something in the home. maybe

have everyone keep track of when they fell better or worse. hope this

helps.

>

>

> Jackie,

>

> Those are good questions. I am not a doctor, so take this for what

it is

> worth.

>

> Sometimes it is difficult to determine what is the actual causation

of your

> illness. Sometimes it is environmental, sometimes its not.

>

> If you suspect it is environmental, then you have to be a self

investigator.

> Treat it just like you would if you were trying to understand a

food

> allergy.

>

> I wouldn't think the first reaction would be to go and have a lot

of tests

> done without even having a clue of what might be the culprit. You

could spend

> a fortune and still not get any real answers.

>

> I would think that one would want to determine what is the most

likely

> environmental exposure that is causing the illness. Then read up

on what kind of

> natural remedies help to rid the body of that element. If that

seems to make

> a difference, then follow that trail further.

>

> If not, then think about what is the second most logical...follow

that trail.

>

> Sometimes it can be a combination of things. So sometimes you may

never know

> the true cause. But, you might find things along the way that help

to

> improve your health, regardless.

>

> I will say this, based on what you have written, if it were me,

even if mold

> was not the cause of my family's illness, if there was an atypical

amount of

> mold in my environment I would highly suspect that it is at least

> contributing.

>

> Good luck,

> Sharon K

>

> In a message dated 2/3/2008 6:51:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> jackiedevries@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi, I've been working through CFS for 3 years, getting better but

still have

> severe reactions to

> food plus other interesting neurological issues. Sometimes I have

a very

> itchy throat in the

> AM, which I relate to autoimune issues and my thyroid, but who

knows. My GI

> track has

> issues, I need to take lots of support for proper digestion. My

husband is

> fatigued too and

> know my son has similar GI tract issues.

>

> I am looking into heavy metal toxicity but am wondering is there a

simple

> test that could help

> me figure out if this is a mycotoxin exposure?

>

> I am a newby and sometimes just feel like I am really getting

paranoid. What

> are useful

> resources for me to read? How do you really test a house for mold?

Is there

> medical testing

> that can clarify if illness is from mold toxicity?

>

> Thanks for pointers, Jackie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I guess I'd add to Sharon's comments that most of us have been able to know of

water intrusion in our homes or workplaces before we suspected mold... The

building I was poisoned in actually had horrible mold issues in the unit below

mine but none visible in my unit upstairs... The walls haven't been torn out

yet, but we're pretty sure that they are full of mold as the wood floor was when

the carpet was pulled up.

Sharon is correct - this takes a good deal of sleuthing, and that work begins

with common sense and deduction.

In our case, several of us in our small building had seizures within a small

time window - I started by doing a web search on mold and seizures. I read and

read and read and eventually began recognizing lists of symptoms that matched

what we were going through (I didn't find this list for a long time, I'm

afraid).

Testing is hard to do - very few folks know what to test for or do it

correctly. We started with environmental testing, but the caution there is that

air sampling may only catch 1% of spores - not terribly reliable. Swab sampling

can catch more if there is a moldy patch. Then you gotta think about viable and

non-viable sampling. Every bit adds up. It ain't cheap.

When you're testing for illness, well, there are several different kinds of

ailments one can have from mold and testing for allergies is entirely different

than testing for toxins - and once again, there are very few labs, and it's all

very expensive. And if you are considering legal action, you'll want to

research the labs you're thinking about because some have had their licensing

challenged and some are withstanding that better than others.

Dr. Shoemaker's book, Mold Warriors is excellent and can be bought at

moldwarriors.com.

I do know of folks who tore their whole house apart looking for mold only to

find that the contamination was actually in their vehicle...the evaporation coil

was rigged in such a way that water was collecting in the carpet instead of a

pan... they are really, really sick and fortunate to have really good medical

attention.

Sorry, no easy answers on this one. Best of luck - we're all in the same

boat. It will take persistence and getting used to hearing that you're crazy

since this stuff isn't well understood.

~Haley

snk1955@... wrote:

Jackie,

Those are good questions. I am not a doctor, so take this for what it is

worth.

Sometimes it is difficult to determine what is the actual causation of your

illness. Sometimes it is environmental, sometimes its not.