Re: Mold victim needs doctor in Long Beach California

March 10, 2008

I only take prednisone when I have anaphylactic reactions to insects.

Otherwise, I stay clear of it.

March 10, 2008

Dr. Thrasher, I am curious on your opinion on diflucan or even other anti

fungals. I ask because from my experience with my treatment thus far has not

included anti fungals thus far. I have often wondered why but because of that I

am interested in your opinion on these things.

Chris...

" Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> wrote:

I am pleased to know that you did find a doctor who prescribed

Diflucan. However, are you still on prednisone? This steroid is an immune

suppressing chemical and can lead to other problems as I pointed out in my

previous post. As mentioned by others, the closest physician to you is Gunnar

Heuser, M.D., Ph.D., located in Santa . Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

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March 10, 2008

I took Diflican for about 8 months. Was doing pretty good with it but

lost insurance so had to stop. A doctor advised me to take spornax but

the local doctors were afraid to give it to me. Out of their realm of

expertise. --->

> >

> > Has anyone prescribed Diflucan or other anti fungal meds?

> > I can just imagine how painful this might be.

> > Yes, I was on Diflucan for a month and Sporonax for a month. I

> seemed to get more healing from Sporonax. I think you need to know

> what kind of mold/yeast issues and where they are doing the damage in

> order to get the right one for your body. Diflucan seems to be helpful

> for yeast problems and Candida from what I've read and experienced.

> Check with your doctor though.

>

March 10, 2008

I for one am not impressed by the AMA. I am not saying there is a

cure and I did not imply that in anyway although I do feel a lot

better. My hypothalamus is healing and I am going back to work on

Wednesday.

I recently did get sick with shingles and then with a sinus infection

so I am feeling lousy. The last time my body had this much stress I

had to triple my dose of steriods. I was literally close to being

brought to the emergency room and having them give me hydrocortisone

by IV so I do believe there are treatments that can give you back

part of your life. I realize I am lucky to have improved this much.

> >

> > I typically try to keep my opinions of medicine for these

illnesses

> to

> > myself, but this one really bugs me. Steroids! Maybe for short

> term reduction of

> > inflammation, but not long term usage. Think about it.

Steroids

> are

> > immunosuppresents. Meaning they cause your immune system to

not

> act as it

> > typically would to fight an antigen. Ya might feel better when

> there is not such a

> > war going on in your body because you have shut down the

defense,

> but in the

> > long run you have crippled the wrong soldiers. Steroids are

bad

> news in my

> > book. They allow the offending agent to flourish by suppressing

> your own immune

> > system's natural defenders.

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> > In a message dated 3/9/2008 6:26:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> > salzberglver3@ writes:

> >

> > Individuals on sterioids for respiratory disease of a high risk

for

> > disseminated Aspergillus.

> >

> > Many of us seem to be progressing into the autoimmune illnesses

> after

> > exposures. Conventional medicine will tell us we need steroid

> > treatment to stop the progression right? How can we stop this

> > progression without taking steriod therapy for things like

> Raynaud's

> > Syndrome and other autoimmune diseases? One doctor wanted to try

> > Plaquenil but after reading the side effects especially for the

> eyes,

> > it seemed like a treatment will lots of possible other health

> compromises.

> >

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March 10, 2008

I think it takes a lot more than the AMA to impress anybody on this site. I

was excited just because it was acknowledged that it can cause serious health

effects and Thank God that there a few Dr's that care enough to treat this

horrible illness.

I think whats really exciting is that your well enough to go back to work!!!!!

Wow its good to see somebody getting better. Way to go!!

a

Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: I for one am

not impressed by the AMA. I am not saying there is a

cure and I did not imply that in anyway although I do feel a lot

better. My hypothalamus is healing and I am going back to work on

Wednesday.

I recently did get sick with shingles and then with a sinus infection

so I am feeling lousy. The last time my body had this much stress I

had to triple my dose of steriods. I was literally close to being

brought to the emergency room and having them give me hydrocortisone

by IV so I do believe there are treatments that can give you back

part of your life. I realize I am lucky to have improved this much.

> >

> > I typically try to keep my opinions of medicine for these

illnesses

> to

> > myself, but this one really bugs me. Steroids! Maybe for short

> term reduction of

> > inflammation, but not long term usage. Think about it.

Steroids

> are

> > immunosuppresents. Meaning they cause your immune system to

not

> act as it

> > typically would to fight an antigen. Ya might feel better when

> there is not such a

> > war going on in your body because you have shut down the

defense,

> but in the

> > long run you have crippled the wrong soldiers. Steroids are

bad

> news in my

> > book. They allow the offending agent to flourish by suppressing

> your own immune

> > system's natural defenders.

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> > In a message dated 3/9/2008 6:26:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> > salzberglver3@ writes:

> >

> > Individuals on sterioids for respiratory disease of a high risk

for

> > disseminated Aspergillus.

> >

> > Many of us seem to be progressing into the autoimmune illnesses

> after

> > exposures. Conventional medicine will tell us we need steroid

> > treatment to stop the progression right? How can we stop this

> > progression without taking steriod therapy for things like

> Raynaud's

> > Syndrome and other autoimmune diseases? One doctor wanted to try

> > Plaquenil but after reading the side effects especially for the

> eyes,

> > it seemed like a treatment will lots of possible other health

> compromises.

> >

> > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL

> Money &

> > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?

NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

> >

March 10, 2008

I also went to a bunch of doctors who tried antibiotics and steroids

but nothing else. When I did my own research and realized I had a

fungal infection and I mentioned it to them, they acted like they'd

never heard of anti-fungal medication.

This is how they react to something that is rare. They ignore it.

They send you elsewhere. They don't want to try anti-fungal

medication because of its effects on your liver.

But if that's what you have and anti-fungal med is the only way to get

rid of it, then why not at least let me try it for a week or two.

When I finally found a doctor NOT afraid to try it, I got better

almost instantly. Because only anti-fungal medicine gets rid of

fungal infections.

March 10, 2008

I am glad to see this message again. Speaking with Dr. Hooper, he informed me

(my mom)that Dr. Dennis in Atlanta told him (he said she said..LOL) the Mayo

Clinic may or does have a new medicine that will pull the tricothecines out of

your system. I will get this confirmed and respond again to be sure but this is

pleasant news although I think that is what CSM is supose to do? I am still a

little confused on the issue but am in the middle of this exact situation minus

the steroid part.

SHARON, congradulations. That is great news. I wish you the best.

Chris..

Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote:

I for one am not impressed by the AMA. I am not saying there is a

cure and I did not imply that in anyway although I do feel a lot

better. My hypothalamus is healing and I am going back to work on

Wednesday.

I recently did get sick with shingles and then with a sinus infection

so I am feeling lousy. The last time my body had this much stress I

had to triple my dose of steriods. I was literally close to being

brought to the emergency room and having them give me hydrocortisone

by IV so I do believe there are treatments that can give you back

part of your life. I realize I am lucky to have improved this much.

> >

> > I typically try to keep my opinions of medicine for these

illnesses

> to

> > myself, but this one really bugs me. Steroids! Maybe for short

> term reduction of

> > inflammation, but not long term usage. Think about it.

Steroids

> are

> > immunosuppresents. Meaning they cause your immune system to

not

> act as it

> > typically would to fight an antigen. Ya might feel better when

> there is not such a

> > war going on in your body because you have shut down the

defense,

> but in the

> > long run you have crippled the wrong soldiers. Steroids are

bad

> news in my

> > book. They allow the offending agent to flourish by suppressing

> your own immune

> > system's natural defenders.

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> > In a message dated 3/9/2008 6:26:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> > salzberglver3@ writes:

> >

> > Individuals on sterioids for respiratory disease of a high risk

for

> > disseminated Aspergillus.

> >

> > Many of us seem to be progressing into the autoimmune illnesses

> after

> > exposures. Conventional medicine will tell us we need steroid

> > treatment to stop the progression right? How can we stop this

> > progression without taking steriod therapy for things like

> Raynaud's

> > Syndrome and other autoimmune diseases? One doctor wanted to try

> > Plaquenil but after reading the side effects especially for the

> eyes,

> > it seemed like a treatment will lots of possible other health

> compromises.

> >

> > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL

> Money &

> > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?

NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

> >

March 12, 2008

Jack,

May I ask, what is Aspergillosis? I am one of these people you mentioned. We

wound up with water damage from a rain storm in March 2007, after having to have

our roof redone twice previously in July and October of 2006 due to negligence.

There was infultration of dust and bebris from both contractors not protecting

the upstairs attack, air handler and air ducts. The water damage did cause

aspergillus, penicillium and chatomium among others. It was mostly in the walls

of one room but over the course of investigation also contaminated the

downstairs hvac and the rest of the house as well. I was ordered out of our

house by my allergist and have exhibited some imorovment.

I had developed severe asthma after catching bronchitis a few months after

recovering from open-heart surgery. The heart surgery in June, 2005 was due to

2/3 heart failure from pericarditis caused by a viral infection. AT this time

they also found that I had severe hashimotos and much later adrenal fatigue.

After the pericardial stripping I made slow progress until December, when I

caught infectious bronchitis. This lasted for months and included steroid

treatment. By May of 06, I had greatly improved and was weaning of of rescue

and steroid inhalors. After all the roofwork, my lung function worsened to where

it was when I first became ill and I have required steroid inhalors ever since

even since leaving our home. My lungs were bad enough that I was put on

disability.

If you or anyone on the list have any advice or recommendations, sources for

help and information I would greatly appreciate it, both in the realm of health

issues, remediation protocols, legal issues, etc. I would greatly appreciate it.

We have remediation and legal assistance but where we live on the maryland

eastern shore is very conservative about mold toxicity even though mold is

ubiquitous here.

If this is consdered off-topic, please feel free to email me privately.

Thanks very much,

" Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> wrote:

I noticed that the lady in Long Beach is planning on seeing her doctor

and get the results of her cortisol. She did not say that she is taking

steroids, but I wish to give a word of caution. Individuals on sterioids for

respiratory disease of a high risk for disseminated Aspergillus.

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You asked, " what is Aspergillosis? " Short and simple it's a lung

infection colonization caused by aspergillus. I would suggest the

easiest thing to do is do a search on aspergillosis. One of the best

websites concerning this condition is: www.aspergillus.man.ac.uk/

They have alot of information and you will also see on the front

page several other websites that they own or run, one is a

group with many members that are discussing their condition. You

will most likely have to register on the main website to get into

all the information, it is free.

KC

> I noticed that the lady in Long Beach is planning on

seeing her doctor and get the results of her cortisol. She did not

say that she is taking steroids, but I wish to give a word of

caution. Individuals on sterioids for respiratory disease of a high

risk for disseminated Aspergillus.

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If you're in California, you need to read this case:

https://www.policyholdersofamerica.org/secure/news_pdf/JUDGE%20CHIRLIN%20DECISIO\

N%2012-24-07.pdf

Aspergillosis is a fungal infection from Aspergillus (sorry, my spelling is

probably off).

~Haley

Eagle <jacobadler123@...> wrote: Jack,