Re: Misstatement by Nighline Reporter?

March 21, 2008

This show was a diaster and a complete affrontage to the MILLIONS who are

injured. It was a CONCERNTED effort to discredit Rae, EI and the entoire field

of environmental medicine.

Out of 30,000 paitents they elected to use one who had GONE to a SHRINK for

an EXTENDED period of time. Oh yeah, good example of why there is a [psych

component to this.

The TX medical board has been after ALL doctors who are going against

industry and given that petroleum is the major industry in TX it's a no-brainer

that they want him out.

Also, if he is practicing DANGEROUS medicine I wonder why they COULDN'T find

a SINGLE patient who was HARMED!

Terry Moran is a SHILL for both industry and a Stossel wannabe. Whats

interesting is that Moran's home base is DC...hello...industry and pharm

lobbying headquarters!

Nagy of course in her comments was THRILLED with the segment of course

she is SELF PROMTOING herself everywhere and has her own agenda which is in

fact not benefiting anyone but herself. As confirmed in her comment:

THIS IS DR. NAGY FROM THE SHOW TONIGHT. I am thrilled

with the presentation and we should all thank Nightline for

their diligence. They made it interesting for the audience

(a key factor) yet sympathetic to the environmental patient

and physician. I thought it let the audience decide who

looked believable and kind and who looked judgmental and

uncaring. I think the more people who write in and say they

have EI from a specific exposure that it will be noted

tomorrow night on the show as well. Let all patients and

physicians know to make a brief statement without too much

hostility so they can see how many people are out there

with this condition and how not 'crazy' we are! further

info at my website www.environmentalmedicineinfo.com, FIND

A DOCTOR AT www.AAEM.COM, or Bill Rea at www.EHCD.COM. I am

giving a talk in Cleveland in May, New York in October,

Washington DC in a few months and need patients to make an

appearance for the audience to see our numbers. Contact me

if you can make it - mask and all! @...

Posted by:

lisanagyMD 1:11 AM

In a message dated 3/21/2008 1:39:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

Sharon, but you know the background. looking at it the the view of a

large population who doesn't know what's going on here, how do you

think it came through?

>

> In the news report, Dr. Nagy discusses Mercury in vaccines. But

the

> reporter says Mercury is no longer in vaccines. This is an

incorrect statement on

> the part of the reporter, isn't it? Thermisol.

>

> __http://www.cdc.http://www.cdc.http://www.cdhttp://www.http_

(http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/concerns/thimerosal.htm_)

> (_http://www.cdc.http://www.cdc.http://www.cdhttp://www.htt_

(http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/concerns/thimerosal.htm) )

>

> All and all, I didn't think it was that bad for Dr. Rea. I thought

it made

> the allergist guy and the TMB look like idiots. In today's world

where so ma

> ny have allergies, autoimmune, etc, it is quite telling that a

mainstream

> allergist would Still be trying to attribute these illnesses to

psychological.

> And I thought it came thru loud and clear, Dr. Rea is not

injecting people

> with rocket fuel. I didn't think it was that bad, myself.

>

> Sharon K.

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March 21, 2008

Sharon, but you know the background. looking at it the the view of a

large population who doesn't know what's going on here, how do you

think it came through?

>

> In the news report, Dr. Nagy discusses Mercury in vaccines. But

the

> reporter says Mercury is no longer in vaccines. This is an

incorrect statement on

> the part of the reporter, isn't it? Thermisol.

>

> _http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/concerns/thimerosal.htm_

> (http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/concerns/thimerosal.htm)

>

> All and all, I didn't think it was that bad for Dr. Rea. I thought

it made

> the allergist guy and the TMB look like idiots. In today's world

where so ma

> ny have allergies, autoimmune, etc, it is quite telling that a

mainstream

> allergist would Still be trying to attribute these illnesses to

psychological.

> And I thought it came thru loud and clear, Dr. Rea is not

injecting people

> with rocket fuel. I didn't think it was that bad, myself.

>

> Sharon K.

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March 21, 2008

Well, again in the television report, reporter just says 'mercury isn't

in vaccines' which makes accusation sound crazy. If he were to be

accurate, he would say that as of 2001 it is used in very few

vaccines.

>

> In the news report, Dr. Nagy discusses Mercury in vaccines. But the

> reporter says Mercury is no longer in vaccines. This is an

incorrect statement on

> the part of the reporter, isn't it? Thermisol.

>

March 21, 2008

Well, perhaps she/Dr Nagy/and others with this illness is/are so used

to being called crazy, she wasn't concerned and feels the audience is

more sophisticated, knowledgeable and open-minded than they actually

are. I think in the end the message was " doctor who was Board

Certified in Allergy and Immunology (and these credentials carry alot

of weight with the average person)says his patients are really

suffering from mental illness, and commentator didn't question him much

on that; and also at end Nightline commentator (can't remember his

name) said in response to Dr Nagy's comment about mercury that 'there

is none in vaccines' seems to be how he was summing it up to me.

>>

> > THIS IS DR. NAGY FROM THE SHOW TONIGHT. I am thrilled

> with the presentation and we should all thank Nightline for

> their diligence. They made it interesting for the audience

> (a key factor) yet sympathetic to the environmental patient

> and physician. I thought it let the audience decide who

> looked believable and kind and who looked judgmental and

> uncaring. I think the more people who write in and say they

> have EI from

March 22, 2008

Hey Angel,

I just put this out on IEQuality, too.

I agree with your evaluation to a certain extent. I take exception to your

evaluation that Dr. Nagy did more harm than good. Regardless of what

one thinks of the treatments she uses, she put it out there that she was having

cognitive difficulties from environmental exposures. How many people do you

know that would go on national television and tell the world they have

experienced mental problems? I love the fact that she discussed she was being

treated for years to no avail by the psychiatric community.

Think about it. Remember the horrible hit piece on Melinda Ballard and her

doctors by Stossel? Same thing. And that one back fired on them, too.

People who watched that show, who knew other people, who were having the same

problems as Melinda and were getting no answers, called their friends and

family after that show to say " I saw this show...it sounds like you. " I have

heard, personally, at least 100 times that's how some made the connection. And

then, of course, the counter attack, was don't listen to the media. How

ironic. I am being told there is a power point presentation out there that

says

" don't listen to the internet " . Has my name on the slide.

I know more people who made the connection because Melinda went out front

and took the trash talk from the media. and I are not close. But I respect

her immensely for doing what she just did. I think the same will hold true

for as it did for Melinda in making a real difference at great personal

cost.

Think how many people have been seeing psychiatrists for years with no help,

who just had a light bulb go off in their heads that maybe their problems

are environmental. Whether one agrees with or not in her understanding of

treatments, I don't think Nagy, who has given her all to help others

while asking for nothing in return, deserves to be bashed for this. I think she

most likely just made a HUGE difference in the lives of many.

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March 22, 2008

Jeanine, I didn't actually see the show. " I'm worried that haveing that

idiot at the

end saying we all just have mental problems carried more weight ..... "

When I watch the rebroadcast, it ends with Nagy speaking. Was what was

televised different?

_http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4493397_

(http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4493397)

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March 22, 2008

Wow, I can't beleive that Dr. Nagy was " thrilled " with the Nightline episode. It

just seemed like a regular main stream media hitjob. There was nothing thrilling

or positvie about it. No doubt Dr. Rae and Dr. Nagy were answering the questions

as best as they could. But the final product was in Nightline's hands. Perhaps

like many of our politicians do, with all due respect, she was trying to take

the best possible spin on it, but to what end?

> From: ntefusa@... <ntefusa@...>

> Subject: Re: [] Re: Misstatement by Nighline Reporter?

>

> Date: Friday, March 21, 2008, 5:46 PM

> Nagy of course in her comments was THRILLED with the

> segment of course

> she is SELF PROMTOING herself everywhere and has her own

> agenda which is in

> fact not benefiting anyone but herself. As confirmed in

> her comment:

>

> THIS IS DR. NAGY FROM THE SHOW TONIGHT. I am thrilled

> with the presentation and we should all thank Nightline

> for

> their diligence.

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good point Sharon, I just wish there would have been a little more

said in that subject. I hope people in the state had the ability ti

have that lightbulb moment cause if there still liveing with exposure

it might not have regesterd. I just wish there would have been a

littke more detail there.I'm worried that haveing that idiot at the

end saying we all just have mental problems carried more weight

because truth is that if I would have seen that while I was exposed

and even afterwards until I learned to practice avoidance and got

some relief, I had basivly thought I had list my mind. and getting

diagnosed by a shrink with PTSD with no brain scans or anything like

that done just made everyone thing I did too. I just dont think it

came through that clear that it was the exposure that caused the

mental problems. but I also have a problem with the tern EI,MCS,and

tittal allergy syndrome. I've had one round of the special IgE and

IgG testing for MCS, through a aaem doctor member. a level 2 is

cytotoxic, mycotoxins are cytotoxic. level 1 is allergic/infection

but I think that this could also mean possable colonization.

if I recall right, level 3 and 4 by DR. REA'S standards, back than

were toxic and MCS. and I think DR. REA is great. I just wish there

would have been mention of toxic mold and we really need to seperate

the allergies from the toxic intolerances because people are to

condictioned to believe that allergies are no bad deal and that few

prople have it so bad as to cause aphalaxia(spelling). there's sime

understanding and seperation between food allergy and food

intolerance, so why isnt there the same between mold allergy and

mycotoxin and other toxins and chemical intolerances?

what about the people who are sick who don't didn't get the allergies?

>

> Hey Angel,

>

> I just put this out on IEQuality, too.

>

> I agree with your evaluation to a certain extent. I take exception

to your

> evaluation that Dr. Nagy did more harm than good. Regardless

of what

> one thinks of the treatments she uses, she put it out there that

she was having

> cognitive difficulties from environmental exposures. How many

people do you

> know that would go on national television and tell the world they

have

> experienced mental problems? I love the fact that she discussed

she was being

> treated for years to no avail by the psychiatric community.

>

> Think about it. Remember the horrible hit piece on Melinda

Ballard and her

> doctors by Stossel? Same thing. And that one back fired on

them, too.

> People who watched that show, who knew other people, who were

having the same

> problems as Melinda and were getting no answers, called their

friends and

> family after that show to say " I saw this show...it sounds like

you. " I have

> heard, personally, at least 100 times that's how some made the

connection. And

> then, of course, the counter attack, was don't listen to the

media. How

> ironic. I am being told there is a power point presentation out

there that says

> " don't listen to the internet " . Has my name on the slide.

>

> I know more people who made the connection because Melinda went out

front

> and took the trash talk from the media. and I are not close.

But I respect

> her immensely for doing what she just did. I think the same will

hold true

> for as it did for Melinda in making a real difference at

great personal

> cost.

>

> Think how many people have been seeing psychiatrists for years with

no help,

> who just had a light bulb go off in their heads that maybe their

problems

> are environmental. Whether one agrees with or not in her

understanding of

> treatments, I don't think Nagy, who has given her all to help

others

> while asking for nothing in return, deserves to be bashed for

this. I think she

> most likely just made a HUGE difference in the lives of many.

>

> Sharon K

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March 22, 2008

One has to remember that CI is NOT about allergy or allergy shots. CI

people are POISONED and no allergy shot/s are going to cure that. We are

talking

about organ damage, brain damage that is irreversible.

Those who have " allergies " are able to get treated with shots and they

" recover " to a certain extent.

Those who are POISONED will not be under the " care " of a psychioatrist they

will be the ones who have life resricting LIVES. They have exposures that

can not be reveresed with a " shot " to neutralize the reactions.

I for a prime example do NOT have allergic reactions I have reactions even

with a voc mask on visible reactions that cause major neuro cognitve

dysfunction. From CNS tremors to brain/vocal dysfunctions.

is NOT the typical person with poisoning she is typcial allergic

reaction person. Those who are POISONED even in a completely chem neutral

enviroment will still be sick.

March 22, 2008

The video CLICK where the written " transcript " was is NOT the complete clip.

The entoire sement was about 8 minutes long and can be viewed FULLY at:

_http://abcnews.http://abcnewhttp://abcnehttp://abc_

(http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4493397)

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March 22, 2008

Here is the written quote:

" Most of these patients who have these ailments actually have an underlying

psychiatric problem, and one of the problems in this country is the under

diagnosis and under treatment of psychiatric diseases, and I think we are all

guilty of that, " Khan said.

March 22, 2008

Wow! That's not what the link indicates how it ended. See below. That

changes the whole concept of the story. Wonder who got final edit???:

In a message dated 3/22/2008 3:50:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

Sharon, I believe the last words went something like this.

the allergest/shrink, " I treat a lot of these patients and most of

them just have mental problems " that may not be exact wording. I

can't recall. if no one here knows, my sister taped it. can find pit

for you.

>

> Jeanine, I didn't actually see the show. " I'm worried that

haveing that

> idiot at the

> end saying we all just have mental problems carried more

weight ..... "

>

> When I watch the rebroadcast, it ends with Nagy speaking.

Was what was

> televised different?

>

> __http://abcnews.http://abcnewhttp://abcnehttp://abcn_

(http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4493397_)

> (_http://abcnews.http://abcnewhttp://abcnehttp://abc_

(http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4493397) )

>

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Sharon, I believe the last words went something like this.

the allergest/shrink, " I treat a lot of these patients and most of

them just have mental problems " that may not be exact wording. I

can't recall. if no one here knows, my sister taped it. can find pit

for you.

>

> Jeanine, I didn't actually see the show. " I'm worried that

haveing that

> idiot at the

> end saying we all just have mental problems carried more

weight ..... "

>

> When I watch the rebroadcast, it ends with Nagy speaking.

Was what was

> televised different?

>

> _http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4493397_

> (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4493397)

>

> Sharon

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March 22, 2008

Re: Dr Nagy: It may be that she thought remarks of allergist as

ridiculous and thinks that other people will think so too, but I don't

think so. People tend to believe the person who are in authority and

in this case a Board Certified Allergist and Immunologist would be

considered the expert. We all have different experiences so know it

was ridiculous statement. The average viewer I don't think will. That

is my experience from talking to other people in my life. They just

can't believe a Board Certified doctor says ANYTHING WRONG...really.

--- In , Eagle <jacobadler123@...>

wrote:

>

>Perhaps like many of our politicians do, with all due respect, she was

trying to take the best possible spin on it, but to what end?

>

March 22, 2008

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barb1283@... writes:

That all we need, more people diagnosed with mental illness and on that

poisonous junk/antidepressantpoisonous junk/antidepressant<WBR>s and psycho

of your liver right there if you've been exposed to mold.

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March 22, 2008

In a message dated 3/22/2008 7:51:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

barb1283@... writes:

That all we need, more people diagnosed with mental illness and on that

poisonous junk/antidepressantpoisonous junk/antidepressant<WBR>s and psycho

of your liver right there if you've been exposed to mold.

Oh, but you are wrong, the LIVER problem would be a CONDITIONED RESPONSE

*sarcastic smoirk* Therefore, they would hae another psychotropic drug for that

" response "

March 22, 2008

It could be that people who have been chronically ill, will see an

opportunity for themselves to investigate Dr Rae for themselves or

environmental causes, because when you are sick and can't find any

help, you reach out to things no matter how crazy they may sound or

no matter if other people think they sound crazy so could end up

being a boon to Dr Rae. We hope that will be the result. To people

who aren't ill, I think they will come away remembering that " Board

Certified Allergist/Immunologist " said that people that go there are

crazy. I think on whole, even though I was upset at comments by

doctor and lack of sufficient questioning on Nightlines part, and

lack of other patients, etc, that perhaps this will be a gain and not

a negative for Environmental Medicine, since some people who are sick

may not have even thought to look into that. I hope for the best,

but it did make me angry.

>

> I agree with your evaluation to a certain extent. I take exception

to your

> evaluation that Dr. Nagy did more harm than good. Regardless

of what

> one thinks of the treatments she uses, she put it out there that

she was having

> cognitive difficulties from environmental exposures.

March 22, 2008

Dr Rae treats people with chemical poisoning too. One thing that makes

this hard to understand from just one patient is that what were her

symptoms when she went to him. She didn't say allergic. She said low

energy, depression. I am surprised they didn't or Dr Rae didn't pick

someone who had more severe symptoms of environmental poisoning,

although she did say she thought she was going to die. It would have

been helpful if they had given more idea of her first symptoms. If she

really felt she was about to die, in a month, her words, I doubt that

depression and low energy would have been her worst symptoms. If so, I

have gone through ALOT worse.

>

> One has to remember that CI is NOT about allergy or allergy shots. CI

>

March 22, 2008

That all we need, more people diagnosed with mental illness and on that

poisonous junk/antidepressants and psycho drugs. That would be the end

of your liver right there if you've been exposed to mold.

>

> Here is the written quote:

>

> " Most of these patients who have these ailments actually have an

underlying

> psychiatric problem, and one of the problems in this country is the

under

> diagnosis and under treatment of psychiatric diseases, and I think we

are all

> guilty of that, " Khan said.

>

March 22, 2008

Sharon, my sounds not working but I watched the vedio and I can tell

you that hardly any of that was on the tv. and the ending I saw was

not in there at all. I couldn't get the written link to work. my

sisters hubby is watching a movie right now so I well call her

tomarrow, and get back to you.

>

> Wow! That's not what the link indicates how it ended. See

below. That

> changes the whole concept of the story. Wonder who got final

edit???:

March 23, 2008

Absolutely Sharon K. She is an amazing woman for doing what she did.

We need more doctors like her who will tell the truth and she did

that in spades as far as I'm concerned.

Sharon Hanson

March 24, 2008

To All Who Are Concerned: I have watched and followed the events around Dr.

Rae's situation. I have remained silent because it is not my nature to stick my

nose into places where it does not belong. I have been an expert on behalf of

physicians who have been accused by medical boards as has Dr. Rae. May I

suggest that everyone keep a cool head, particulaly Dr. Nagy, and allow Dr.

Rae's attorneys handle the litigation. If anyone has any comments to make, make

them to his attorneys, not the press. The press will only twist what you have

to say.

Also I wish to comment on chemical injury vs mold injury. These are two

different illnesses. The chemically injured person is never cured, only helped

to a certain extent, particularly intranasal glutathione. The chemically

injured person has as his/her primary problem neurocognitive deficts and in many

cases a hypersensitivity to very low concentrations of chemicals. Dr. Nagey, by

her own admission, is a mold victim. Finally, I have never met a chemically

injured person who has benefited from continuous psychiatric treatment. May I

suggest that Dr. Nagy back down and get out of the lime light. Give your

comments to Rae's attorneys. Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

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March 25, 2008

Dr. Nagey said she possibly could have been exposed to other things

before and the last place she lived that had happened to have mold

may have pushed her toxicity levels over the top. So it sounds to me

like she was both chemically injured and mold injured. And I know

from personal experience that both have similar symptoms and

presentations and both are incurable especially if the toxic mold

gets into your blood stream and/or colonizes in your body. The point

should be yes they may be different dis-eases, technically, but the

bottom line is they are both toxic. They both poison your system and

both can cause permanent damage. Toxicity vs Toxicity is a mute

point, in my opinion. Poison is poison! And I believe that is more to

the point of what Dr. Nagey was referring to not chemical toxicity

vs. mold toxicity. Her body was on toxic overload, probably, from a

combination of things not just mold.

>

> To All Who Are Concerned: I have watched and followed the events

around Dr. Rae's situation. I have remained silent because it is not

my nature to stick my nose into places where it does not belong. I

have been an expert on behalf of physicians who have been accused by

medical boards as has Dr. Rae. May I suggest that everyone keep a

cool head, particulaly Dr. Nagy, and allow Dr. Rae's attorneys handle

the litigation. If anyone has any comments to make, make them to his

attorneys, not the press. The press will only twist what you have to

say.

>

> Also I wish to comment on chemical injury vs mold injury. These

are two different illnesses. The chemically injured person is never

cured, only helped to a certain extent, particularly intranasal

glutathione. The chemically injured person has as his/her primary

problem neurocognitive deficts and in many cases a hypersensitivity

to very low concentrations of chemicals. Dr. Nagey, by her own

admission, is a mold victim. Finally, I have never met a chemically

injured person who has benefited from continuous psychiatric

treatment. May I suggest that Dr. Nagy back down and get out of the

lime light. Give your comments to Rae's attorneys. Jack D.

Thrasher, Ph.D.

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March 25, 2008

, you are so right. It is very sad that our family and friends do not

try to cooperate. I met two friends for lunch and one showed up wear a bottle

of perfume. When I asked her (politely) on the other side I could see her eyes

roll and the irritated body language. A few years ago I wouldn't have had

the courage to say anything. I now say something and don't care what others may

think. I still could smell it mostly when someone walked by and moved the

air but at least I didn't leave with a horrible headache. It's unfortunate that

we have to live this way but we do. I wish fragrances could be banned like

smoking but I know that is a long way off. Some work places and schools are

fragrance free but I doubt we will see it in public places any time soon. I

can't imagine what a high school must be like with all the teenagers wearing a

bottle each!!

Sue

The sad part of this story is that many people will continue to be

abused by people that see this story and decide that there is no need

to be careful when near a person with chemical problems. I had an

inlaw that would spray cologne all over the house before he would go

to church. He knew it would hurt both my husband and me. We were

living there while waiting to get a safe place since we had lived in

so many places with mold. The sad part is when you have both mold

illness and reactive airways disease or chemical sensitivity. To me

it seems like discrimination to our illnesses. I wrote a comment but

mostly to educate the people that did the story and kept a cool

head. But it is hard to take when you have worked for so many years

trying to educate the world and someone can come along and discredit

everything we have worked for to get awareness out there and to save

our lives. It is getting so old that we have to tolerate this for so

long.

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