Re: Nightline/ Dr Rae

[Guest guest]

I saw the story, too, and had the same reaction. They made the patient out

to look crazy as well as the Dr. Don't people realize that when you get

allergy testing they inject you with serum you may be allergic to. . Here is an

example of a good Dr. being destroyed. It's very upsetting and I feel very

sorry for ALL his patients that need his help and support.

Well, unfortunately last statement on show was

from " Board Certified Allergist and Immunologist "

that said he's treating people who are mentally

ill, sad to say. He talked to Nightline I could

tell with trust that Nightline got the

ridiculousness that the Texas Board was limiting

people to medicine as dished out by pharmacy

companies, restricting choices but in the end, I

think the show let him down by letting the last

word come from that source. Patient they focused

on was also a doctor who was a patient of his.

They picked on his use of substances as

'antigens' in his allergy shots, where he departs

on typical things like pollens and pet dander and

deals with petrol for example, saying to a

patient, " don't you think it is dangerous to

inject yourself with petrol " and she said " are

you kidding me? Have you read the inserts in

pharmaceutical drugs? There is tiny amount

compared to mercury which is in many shots given

by doctors " . Then Nightline broke away with a

parting shot on that statement saying that " in

fact there is NO mercury in shots " , while not

citing a source for that pseudo-fact, impling

statement was crazy. It is widely known and

published controvery on thermasil/mercury, and of

course, look at the toxic substances in pharmacy

drugs. I was hoping Nightline would at least act

as an impartial reporter of controversy but they

were not.

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[Guest guest]

Why didn't Nagy and Rae select more typical patients to highlight,

instead of atypical patients like Nagy herself and those doing

antigen treatment? Most patients do not use antigens or have mold as

their primary injury. Most patients were never committed to

psychiatric institutions.

If you present atypical patient portraits and treatment paradigms,

you get this result.

Why not highlight the symptoms of normal persons exposed to higher

concentrations of toxicants and then show those unable to tolerate

lower amounts? Until the primary damage done by chemical exposures

is made the focus, and emphasizes the fact that treatment

(antigens!) cannot render such chemicals into the category

of 'benign' substances, this is how it will continue.

Until we convince 'normal' people of the virtues of avoidance, more

extreme avoidance will always appear to be psychologically abnormal.

Barb Rubin

>

> Well, unfortunately last statement on show was

> from " Board Certified Allergist and Immunologist "

> that said he's treating people who are mentally

> ill, sad to say.

[Guest guest]

Why dind't, why not because they don't want to! Consider the time they even

aired the story. 11:30 PM afrer most people are asleep!!!!! They don't want

anyone to question or think about environmental illness as a possible concern

for many of their symptoms! Just keep it quiet as long as possible so no one

will find out.

Why didn't Nagy and Rae select more typical patients to highlight,

instead of atypical patients like Nagy herself and those doing

antigen treatment? Most patients do not use antigens or have mold as

their primary injury. Most patients were never committed to

psychiatric institutions.

If you present atypical patient portraits and treatment paradigms,

you get this result.

Why not highlight the symptoms of normal persons exposed to higher

concentrations of toxicants and then show those unable to tolerate

lower amounts? Until the primary damage done by chemical exposures

is made the focus, and emphasizes the fact that treatment

(antigens!) cannot render such chemicals into the category

of 'benign' substances, this is how it will continue.

Until we convince 'normal' people of the virtues of avoidance, more

extreme avoidance will always appear to be psychologically abnormal.

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[Guest guest]

I emailed ABC news shortly after the program with some of these thoughts. I

would recommend that otherss who have worked with Dr. Rea and/or objected to the

reporting do the same in order to be heard. Typical case of clever and biased

reporting. Interesting that they did keep saying that Dr. Rae had treated over

thirty thousand patients and that they couldn't find anyone that he'd " harmed "

in any way. For sure if they could have found one they would have broadcasted

it.

> From: bbw <barb1283@...>

> Subject: [] Nightline/ Dr Rae

>

> Date: Friday, March 21, 2008, 1:04 AM

> Well, unfortunately last statement on show was

> from " Board Certified Allergist and Immunologist "

> that said he's treating people who are mentally

> ill, sad to say. He talked to Nightline I could

> tell with trust that Nightline got the

> ridiculousness that the Texas Board was limiting

> people to medicine as dished out by pharmacy

> companies, restricting choices but in the end, I

> think the show let him down by letting the last

> word come from that source. Patient they focused

> on was also a doctor who was a patient of his.

> They picked on his use of substances as

> 'antigens' in his allergy shots, where he departs

> on typical things like pollens and pet dander and

> deals with petrol for example, saying to a

> patient, " don't you think it is dangerous to

> inject yourself with petrol " and she said " are

> you kidding me? Have you read the inserts in

> pharmaceutical drugs? There is tiny amount

> compared to mercury which is in many shots given

> by doctors " . Then Nightline broke away with a

> parting shot on that statement saying that " in

> fact there is NO mercury in shots " , while not

> citing a source for that pseudo-fact, impling

> statement was crazy. It is widely known and

> published controvery on thermasil/mercury, and of

> course, look at the toxic substances in pharmacy

> drugs. I was hoping Nightline would at least act

> as an impartial reporter of controversy but they

> were not.

>

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>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb R. I was thinking the same thing, there needs to be a seperation

between ehat is a allergy sensitivity and whats a toxin intolerance.

> >

> > Well, unfortunately last statement on show was

> > from " Board Certified Allergist and Immunologist "

> > that said he's treating people who are mentally

> > ill, sad to say.

>

[Guest guest]

Dr Rae does ALOT of treatment with antigens, ALOT. He uses it as

first line of symptomatic relief while starting on detoxification and

avoidance. He also investigates infections and inflamatory

conditions but almost everyone first goes through allergen testing.

I went to him and saw for myself. I wasn't too interested in the

antigen angle and didn't use the treatment myself, although I was

tested. I prefer avoidance for all allergies and avoidance and start

detoxification. He uses a system he feels helps the person to train

body to learn to accept the substance they have become intolerant of

by avoiding it as big exposure and controlling exposure in small

quantities that grow bigger until you can handle them again. That is

his approach. I could have not even tried the antigen shots but I

did and they helped me to feel better but they are expensive and I'd

decided not to spend my money on that approach.

>

> Why didn't Nagy and Rae select more typical patients to highlight,

> instead of atypical patients like Nagy herself and those doing

> antigen treatment?

[Guest guest]

....also calling Dr Rae's patients mentally ill is unnecessarily mean

spirtied. Hypochondriacs would really be the definition one would

expect. Shows he may have some " anger issues " and may be in need of

counseling.

>

> I saw the story, too, and had the same reaction. They made the

patient out

> to look crazy as well as the Dr.

[Guest guest]

OMG...SO true!! If you lined up people that medical establishment

and/or pharmaceutical companies had harmed, they would go around the

world many times, and that's only the ones that are still alive. 99%

of their drugs do more harm than good. Just read the package inserts

for starters. I would like to hear their answer to that question. If

anyone gets on the site, see if you can post that question.

--- In , Eagle <jacobadler123@...>

wrote:

>

>Interesting that they did keep saying that Dr. Rae had treated over

thirty thousand patients and that they couldn't find anyone that

he'd " harmed " in any way. For sure if they could have found one they

would have broadcasted it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb, Hypochondriacs? not even that if he had a clue of what he was

talking about. with multiple chemical INTOLERANCE which has nothing to

do woth true allergies.uncontable mood swings are a direct result of

the toxin effect of whatever toxin youre getting exposed to.

advoidance is major and it's not just to chemicals/toxins,myco's ect.

on the air, it also means advoidance to contaminated foods,drinks and

medicenes. it means strict advoidance to whatever you have intolerance

too. hard to do but the more you can, the more knowledge you will get

conserning just how and what you need to avoid. this is all about brain

responces from the cause not anything else and I garentee you this.

put me in a tottally clean invironment and I could prove it, than put

me in a contaminated toxic environment and see what happens. brain

effects. now this is seperate from the perminate damage so yes, I'll

still suffer those but theres a hudge difference.

would really be the definition one would

> expect. Shows he may have some " anger issues " and may be in need of

> counseling.

>

>

> >

> > I saw the story, too, and had the same reaction. They made the

> patient out

> > to look crazy as well as the Dr.

>

[Guest guest]

I meant that saying people are mentally ill is really stretching to be

mean. If someone did not understand OR believed person was imaging

illness, hypochondria is word commonly used to people who image

illnesses that aren't there and used frequently and is not as

derogatory. Certainly if he understood anything at all he would say

neither. My point was that he showed a meanness not necessary.

However doctors who demean patients like that are mean and emotionless

people.

>

> Barb, Hypochondriacs? not even that if he had a clue of what he was

> talking about.