Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 HI Everyone: I am a new member to this site.. I had bed bugs and my landlord sprayed pesticides 2 times.. Now I am very very sick... Is this possible? Anyone know a good Dr. in NYC for this? THanks loads, Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 , I am one of millions who have been disabled and damaged by pesticides. It isn't just possible but also inevitable. If at all possible, get out of the apartment and stay elsewhere while you work out this problem. It is very important to do this since you are having ongoing exposures there. The materials do not just dissipate. 1. Get the MSDS sheet or name of spray used by the exterminators and the side effects can them be located on reputable sites. You need such confirmation of exposure before a doctor will believe you. 2. If you decide to remain there, at least stop using thost beds and bring in a cot to use in another room. Fabric retains pesticides permanently and unless they used certain very benign products (unlikely), you won't be able to use it any longer. 3. Once you find out what was used on it (likely a permethrin), you may then wish to send samples of the mattresses to a lab for confirmation and also calculation of the degree of contamination. This will enable you to bill for the losses and potentially for your out of pocket medical expenses. Problem: It is quite likely they sprayed more than just the mattresses but also the interior of the rooms, baseboards,cabinets etc. You need to know the extent of the spraying because residues remain for years in the absence of sun to break them down. The habitability of the apartment is an issue. If the spraying was recent, within the week, I do suggest you quickly get the name of the chemical snd then look up labs which test for it in blood and urine. Sorry the news isn't better. Barb Rubin www.armchairactivist.us =========================================== > > HI Everyone: > > I am a new member to this site.. I had bed bugs and my landlord > sprayed pesticides 2 times.. Now I am very very sick... Is this > possible? Anyone know a good Dr. in NYC for this? > > THanks loads, > > Lynda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hi Barb: Thanks so very much for your letter. The bedroom was sprayed with the same chemical that you had. Its called suspend. I just got sprayed 4 weeks ago for the second time. I am so ill and do not know where to turn. Are you in nyc????? Have been to 7 drs in 2 weeks. They just put me on allegra. Its a nigjtmare. As you know you just can not move. I am suing my landlord in civil court. Thanks for the advice. How are you doing? Thnx, Robin Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [] Re: Bed bug pesticides , I am one of millions who have been disabled and damaged by pesticides. It isn't just possible but also inevitable. If at all possible, get out of the apartment and stay elsewhere while you work out this problem. It is very important to do this since you are having ongoing exposures there. The materials do not just dissipate. 1. Get the MSDS sheet or name of spray used by the exterminators and the side effects can them be located on reputable sites. You need such confirmation of exposure before a doctor will believe you. 2. If you decide to remain there, at least stop using thost beds and bring in a cot to use in another room. Fabric retains pesticides permanently and unless they used certain very benign products (unlikely), you won't be able to use it any longer. 3. Once you find out what was used on it (likely a permethrin), you may then wish to send samples of the mattresses to a lab for confirmation and also calculation of the degree of contamination. This will enable you to bill for the losses and potentially for your out of pocket medical expenses. Problem: It is quite likely they sprayed more than just the mattresses but also the interior of the rooms, baseboards,cabinets etc. You need to know the extent of the spraying because residues remain for years in the absence of sun to break them down. The habitability of the apartment is an issue. If the spraying was recent, within the week, I do suggest you quickly get the name of the chemical snd then look up labs which test for it in blood and urine. Sorry the news isn't better. Barb Rubin www.armchairactivist.us =========================================== > > HI Everyone: > > I am a new member to this site.. I had bed bugs and my landlord > sprayed pesticides 2 times.. Now I am very very sick... Is this > possible? Anyone know a good Dr. in NYC for this? > > THanks loads, > > Lynda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Robin, I live in NYC. I wonder if you can get some glutathione IV's. My doc gives them. They might help you handle this toxic exposure better at the moment. Other thoughts--I have heard denny foil is good for sealing things off. Maybe you could seal off your mattress with it and keep the windows open. > > Hi Barb: > > > Thanks so very much for your letter. The bedroom was sprayed with the same chemical that you had. Its called suspend. > > I just got sprayed 4 weeks ago for the second time. I am so ill and do not know where to turn. Are you in nyc????? Have been to 7 drs in 2 weeks. They just put me on allegra. Its a nigjtmare. As you know you just can not move. I am suing my landlord in civil court. Thanks for the advice. How are you doing? > Thnx, > Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Here is the MSDS for suspend: http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/SPEC/LABELS/suspend.pdf Yes, you can move out if you have any place else to go such as a relative or friend. You are sick there. It isn't going to get better and you need to have amounts present in your bedding and clothing measured so you can figure out if any of it is salvagable. In my case, everything I owned had to be tossed out or I would have simply continued poisoning myself in a new environment. A physician's letter ought to be enough to show continued occupancy is ill advised and you may be able to get back the months of rent you have payed (or stop paying and put it in escrow) while not able to occupy the place. I have no doubt your landlord will happily release you from your lease with any medical documentation. This stuff will remain in your place for months if not years. If you are sick now, you will only get worse with the chronic exposure. Since you are still exposed by living there, you should likely get those medical tests done for metabolites etc. You ought to sue the pest control company as well or your landlord will just have to do it himself as a third party suit. It is against label directions to use this stuff in an unventilated area or in an area where food handling is performed so you may have grounds there. I hope you got rid of foods that might have become contaminated. Please contact a toxicologist from this board or other patient list for professional advice before making any decisions to stay there or keep your stuff. The decision you make may affect the rest of your life. Barb Rubin ======================================== > > > > HI Everyone: > > > > I am a new member to this site.. I had bed bugs and my landlord > > sprayed pesticides 2 times.. Now I am very very sick... Is this > > possible? Anyone know a good Dr. in NYC for this? > > > > THanks loads, > > > > Lynda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Barb: Thanks so much for all of your information to me. I will print out suspend later. I will temp move to moms I'm Broolyn. Your a real Mensch for going the distance for all of us. on nyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 No problem. Pesticides are ubiquitous now in our society with nearly the entire population testing positive for such contaminants as well as our properties. It is the first question to ask when renting or going to work. Also recognize that mold control products are biocides - that means they are registered pesticides. Mold victims often get poisoned twice - first by mold and then by remediation methods often adopted unless a knowledgeable victim can direct them. Barb ================================= > > Barb: > Thanks so much for all of your information to me. I will print out suspend later. I will temp move to moms I'm Broolyn. Your a real Mensch for going the distance for all of us. on nyc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 : Unfortunately there are not many environmental physicians in New York. The vast majority in NY are very concervative and will not recognize pesiticide poisoning. Try the listing of The American Academy of Environmentl Medicine to see if you can locate a physician in NY. Sherry , M.D. is in NY. Unfortunately you were exposed to one of the cyano-pyrethrins under the trade name of Suspend Deltamethrin has a cyano (cyanide) group and is brominated. It is a known neurotoxin and causes Type II neurological symtpoms. In animal and in tissue culture it interferes wit GABA and other receptors. You need to locate a physician who understands its neurotoxicity. Depending upon how long and concentration to which you were exposed, you may well have other organ damage. Also, piperonyl butoxide is used is used in pyrethrin formulations as well as probable solvents. Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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