Re: May have mold problem in bathroom

[Guest guest]

Jill, this is a nightmare from the start. There should be gypsum board behind

the tile, not sheet rock by any means although it is not suprising at all. Once

there is a break in the tile water is going to leak in without fail. Then all

the steps to seal, cover ect. is only giving mold of any kind, Black for sure if

it has been long term, a pristine place to thrive with out disturbance with a

constant sourse of food. Not only that but as far as sleeping in there, from

what I understand, fussarium is very common in bathrooms wich is just as toxic

as stachybotrys. Bolth give off the T2 toxin spoke of so often. Then you are

closing yourself up in a small area with small amounts if and of fresh air at

all.

It sounds like your suspicions are more than likley at least partly correct. I

will let others give thier opinion but my first thought is that by takeing tiles

off and disturbing whatever is there and then sealing it back up and even worse

trying to sleep in there is going to produce a multitude of problems. To put

insult to injury I understand that everytime a toilet is flushed there is a rush

of toxic gasses that are emited out of the toilet that can also contribute to a

decline i health. This is why they recomend putting the lid down when flushing,

keeping your toothbrush elswhere ect.

I don't know but it is a shame these are the lengths you have to go to to get

some sleep and I don't think it a very healthy sleep at that all be it more

peacefull. One thing I do know though is that disturbance of mold if a far cry

worse than it just being there. Be very careful and get as much info from replys

to this post. I fear your mood swings and such are a dirrect result of these

issues though.

Gee. I almost sound like I know what I am talking about. That or I am just

overly tired at the moment. I wish you the best while you are trying to figure

this out.

Chris...

jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote:

I may have a mold problem?

My bathroom was renovated before I moved in about 11 years ago. A few

years ago I noticed some of the tiles in the shower/bath, down near

the top of the bathtub, were loosening, and periodically mold (black

looking, sometimes greenish) would appear in the corner there. I'd put

bleach on. When my handyman repaired the tiles, and he took them off,

there was some kind of sheetrock I guess, I don't really remember, it

went up about half a foot and it was blackish too. I told him I

thought it could be mold but he said it wasn't, that was typical

discoloration of sheetrock. However he's Albanian and knows nothing

about these things.

I asked a neighbor to look at it also and he didn't think it was mold.

But I was worried because of the way mold had kept growing in that one

corner periodically. My handyman re applied and sealed the tiles. But

mold still grows in the corner (its where the two walls meet, at the

bottom of the tiles and the top of the bathtub).

Having read a few stories of someone having the bad mold (black) in

her entire home, I worried, but even if its not black it is affecting

me, the reason I think so is, I've been sleeping in the bathroom the

last four nights. This is because of radiator pipe noise in both

bedrooms that has been keeping me up all winter long. We removed one

radiator in one bedroom, and some small shelving attached to the

walls, and had to do a lot of scraping and plastering. While that was

going on I stayed out of that room. Now primer has been put on and

paint, although I am really annoyed because I use bioshield paint and

always have the building use that, and my handyman thought my sill

should be glossy so he used benjamin moore on the sill. That was

really frustrating to me as I don't react so well to regular paints

tho not horrible, so I have just coated the sill with hardseal and

hope to sleep in there tonight.

The four nights in the bathroom without any radiator noise I slept

better than I have in months, although my super still wakes me up at

about 7 because he and his family are noisy and bang closet doors.

(Yes, I would like to get out of this environment, but can't do it at

the very moment).

Though I slept better and felt more rested, I am sure I am reacting to

mold. I know my reactions. I feel depressed, and I also have this

buzzy reaction over my whole body. And I get itchy.

Now my question is, to convince my building I have a problem, I guess

I'll have to have my boyfriend remove a tile or two, take a

scraping/sample and have it tested? Please don't think my building

will volunteer to check it out or believe it because I think it's so.

Someone else in my building did have a black mold problem, and he had

to prove it and get the health dept in etc, and order the building to

fix and put him up somewhere else during that time. It was a long

dragged out process to do this. So the burden of proof first rests on

me. How can we do this without trouble? My boyfriend can do this, but,

even if I open up the tiles, take a sample, shouldn't I re-seal them

again (or my boyfriend do this) until I can get the problem fixed?

I am really frustrated. I really don't want to have to deal with this

but it's obvious I have to. It's not the only problem in my apartment,

far from it; and not the only problem in my building.

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If it is growing and coming back..it is mold.

--- In , " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@...>

wrote:

>

> I may have a mold problem?

> My bathroom was renovated before I moved in about 11 years ago. A

few

> years ago I noticed some of the tiles in the shower/bath, down near

> the top of the bathtub, were loosening, and periodically mold (black

> looking, sometimes greenish) would appear in the corner there. I'd

put

> bleach on. When my handyman repaired the tiles, and he took them

off,

> there was some kind of sheetrock I guess, I don't really remember,

it

> went up about half a foot and it was blackish too. I told him I

> thought it could be mold but he said it wasn't, that was typical

> discoloration of sheetrock. However he's Albanian and knows nothing

> about these things.

>

> I asked a neighbor to look at it also and he didn't think it was

mold.

> But I was worried because of the way mold had kept growing in that

one

> corner periodically. My handyman re applied and sealed the tiles.

But

> mold still grows in the corner (its where the two walls meet, at the

> bottom of the tiles and the top of the bathtub).

>

> Having read a few stories of someone having the bad mold (black) in

> her entire home, I worried, but even if its not black it is

affecting

> me, the reason I think so is, I've been sleeping in the bathroom the

> last four nights. This is because of radiator pipe noise in both

> bedrooms that has been keeping me up all winter long. We removed one

> radiator in one bedroom, and some small shelving attached to the

> walls, and had to do a lot of scraping and plastering. While that

was

> going on I stayed out of that room. Now primer has been put on and

> paint, although I am really annoyed because I use bioshield paint

and

> always have the building use that, and my handyman thought my sill

> should be glossy so he used benjamin moore on the sill. That was

> really frustrating to me as I don't react so well to regular paints

> tho not horrible, so I have just coated the sill with hardseal and

> hope to sleep in there tonight.

>

> The four nights in the bathroom without any radiator noise I slept

> better than I have in months, although my super still wakes me up at

> about 7 because he and his family are noisy and bang closet doors.

> (Yes, I would like to get out of this environment, but can't do it

at

> the very moment).

>

> Though I slept better and felt more rested, I am sure I am reacting

to

> mold. I know my reactions. I feel depressed, and I also have this

> buzzy reaction over my whole body. And I get itchy.

>

> Now my question is, to convince my building I have a problem, I

guess

> I'll have to have my boyfriend remove a tile or two, take a

> scraping/sample and have it tested? Please don't think my building

> will volunteer to check it out or believe it because I think it's

so.

> Someone else in my building did have a black mold problem, and he

had

> to prove it and get the health dept in etc, and order the building

to

> fix and put him up somewhere else during that time. It was a long

> dragged out process to do this. So the burden of proof first rests

on

> me. How can we do this without trouble? My boyfriend can do this,

but,

> even if I open up the tiles, take a sample, shouldn't I re-seal them

> again (or my boyfriend do this) until I can get the problem fixed?

>

> I am really frustrated. I really don't want to have to deal with

this

> but it's obvious I have to. It's not the only problem in my

apartment,

> far from it; and not the only problem in my building.

>

[Guest guest]

Actually I'm not totally sure what's behind it. I think it was

sheetrock. I only slept in there 4 nights--with window open--it was

nice to sleep thru the night without noise, now that the small

bedroom's radiator is entirely gone and it's all plastered and painted

(and i put hardseal over the sill where he stupidly used benjamin

moore paint even though I handed him my gallon of bioshield that I

keep and always use), I can sleep in there tonight.

I just think we need to sample it? I could wait until the mold grows

thru to the outside again and sample that in a month or so.

My home is very intrusive in very many ways. It is a beautiful area

but it's off the highway, which they now force traffic onto our street

in the last few years, over a city schoolyard, and the renovations in

the building led to all this pipe noise that bothers many of us all

winter. That's why I removed my radiator. It would sympathetically

knock even when cold and off. With it gone the room is fairly quiet

and a sound machine should suffice. I'll be in there tonight. Its just

that, while sleeping in the bathroom (for purposes of quiet) I

discovered through my own familiar reactions it MUST have mold. I

don't know how much or how bad the problem. I do know from searching

this list I had better be hypervigilant about how its tested and if it

is there how is removed. Seems like a lot of people don't know or care.

>

> Jill, this is a nightmare from the start. There should be gypsum

board behind the tile, not sheet rock by any means although it is not

suprising at all. Once there is a break in the tile water is going to

leak in without fail. Then all the steps to seal, cover ect. is only

giving mold of any kind, Black for sure if it has been long term, a

pristine place to thrive with out disturbance with a constant sourse

of food. Not only that but as far as sleeping in there, from what I

understand, fussarium is very common in bathrooms wich is just as

toxic as stachybotrys. Bolth give off the T2 toxin spoke of so often.

Then you are closing yourself up in a small area with small amounts if

and of fresh air at all.

[Guest guest]

If I can validate its presence the building and health department will

take care of it and the building will have to put me up elsewhere. For

someone elsei n my building they put him up in an empty rental in our

building. I guess I'll just wait till the mold grows out in a few

weeks or a month as apparently disturbing it myself is not a good idea.

>

> Most don't, your right. Carl Grimes had some realy good advice

though. Rather than bother with the cost to validate its presence. Put

the money to removeing it instead. Although I understand being in a

rental this just adds to the confusion of what to do. Plus I fear once

you pull back one layer of a problem (so to speak) what will rear its

ugly head from the unseen.. I sure wish you the best of luck.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I thought I would do that--pay for professional testing, which I have

not yet researched, but if I send off a goopy mold sample it should be

identifiable, right?

>

> I thought about that after I posted but ya, never the less unless

you are going to have a proffesional test it, not only will it be

unsafe but testing it yourself will not give you the information you

need for that purpose. Bummer I know but better safe than sorry.

>