Re: Treating My Dog/CSM Protocol Question

April 4, 2008

Hi again-

Thanks to those who have also replied to me offlist. My vet has

prescribed CSM for my dog. He's 24 pounds, so one gram 2x per day. I

know he needs to take it on an empty stomach and also take something

for constipation.

This may be a question a person who has taken CSM can answer too - how

long does he take it to get the toxins out? A few weeks and then stop,

assuming there is no additional exposure? He's having some liver issues

and I know CSM is hard on the liver.

Any additional advice would be appreciated as my vet and I are flying

blind on this.

I plan to take CSM too but am waiting for my appt. with Dr. Shoemaker.

K.

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April 4, 2008

ah knowing that dogs systems are different in many ways than ours...if it

was me i would have the csm made into a WATER based homepathic remedy rather

than run the risk of giving mine a drug.

that's why i suggested going to a vet with training in alt medicine for the

utmost protection when it comes to using human drugs

i know a lot of the human drugs are normally given to dogs in lower doses

but some i question.

just how i would proceed if it was my dog

April 5, 2008

to those who have dogs and think they may have been affected-what have the

symptoms been? My black Pomeranians did not seem to suffer any ill effect, but

my fiances blond cocker was throwing up regularly when we were in our mold house

and stopped when we moved. My older but healthy cat developed what the vet said

was cancer in his face and I had to have him put to sleep cause it got so bad. I

didn't know it at the time but now I'm pretty sure it was the mold. The cocker,

like me has gained alot of weight. So frustrating. Dr. Gray says no diet and

exercise will rid the weight gain-only continued use of sequestering agents,

csm,charcoal, liquid clay ,YUMMY!!!! Hope I can lose some of this weight

soon-anyone else suffering the weight gain?? LL

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05:27:34 -0400Subject: Re: [] Re: Treating My Dog/CSM Protocol

Question

ah knowing that dogs systems are different in many ways than ours...if it was me

i would have the csm made into a WATER based homepathic remedy rather than run

the risk of giving mine a drug.that's why i suggested going to a vet with

training in alt medicine for the utmost protection when it comes to using human

drugsi know a lot of the human drugs are normally given to dogs in lower doses

but some i question.just how i would proceed if it was my dog

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April 6, 2008

are you feeding him real organic dog food? bottled-glass water?

April 6, 2008

ntefusa-

i totally understand where you are coming from about using a natural

remedy instead of CSM. i haven't ruled that out at all and am seeking

out such a vet. right now, I'm just desperate to get the toxins out

as quickly as possible so they stop damaging my dog's organs. so I'm

trying to CSM cautiously while monitoring him and taking another

blood test in a few weeks to see if there is any improvement.

if anyone has tried specific herbal remedies for detoxing dogs, i'd

love to hear about them.

laurie-

once my dog was out of the mold, he didn't show any symptoms, but his

bloodwork has told a different story. his liver has gotten worse and

worse over the 6 months we've been out (and he has not be reexposed).

he has been living with my parents where there is no cross-

contamination, etc. i've been diagnosed with trith. mytoxicosis (sp?)

and we both had a very lethal dose of the mycotoxins. the toxins are

in our bodies and will keep damaging our organs until we get them

out.

k.

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> to those who have dogs and think they may have been affected-what

have the symptoms been? My black Pomeranians did not seem to suffer

any ill effect, but my fiances blond cocker was throwing up regularly

when we were in our mold house and stopped when we moved. My older

but healthy cat developed what the vet said was cancer in his face

and I had to have him put to sleep cause it got so bad. I didn't know

it at the time but now I'm pretty sure it was the mold. The cocker,

like me has gained alot of weight. So frustrating. Dr. Gray says no

diet and exercise will rid the weight gain-only continued use of

sequestering agents, csm,charcoal, liquid clay ,YUMMY!!!! Hope I can

lose some of this weight soon-anyone else suffering the weight gain??

LL

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> @...: ntefusa@...: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 05:27:34 -

0400Subject: Re: [] Re: Treating My Dog/CSM Protocol

Question

>

> ah knowing that dogs systems are different in many ways than

ours...if it was me i would have the csm made into a WATER based

homepathic remedy rather than run the risk of giving mine a

drug.that's why i suggested going to a vet with training in alt

medicine for the utmost protection when it comes to using human

drugsi know a lot of the human drugs are normally given to dogs in

lower doses but some i question.just how i would proceed if it was my

dog

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April 6, 2008

I'm also trying to get some advice from Dr. Croft who analyzed my

biopsy and is also a vet. I'm hoping he knows about some natural

remedies or if CSM is the way to go. I've tried to call him a handful

of times but he's a busy guy.

oh and laurie yes, i gained weight too. dr. shoemaker has written a

bit about this being related to the toxins and once you get the

toxins out you should be able to lose some weight.