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Hi ,

I was in a sick building and have had chemical, mold, and asbestos

exposures. When I left my building my lung scan also showed one

nodule. I read that single nodules are present with asbestos exposure

but I haven't had a biopsy yet. Take your scans and look at the

Aspergillus website for the UK. They have images there of aspergillus

in the lung.Compare your scans to the images. Dr. Marinkovich told me

I had fungal colonization too. I took Sporonox and my eye soreness

improved. Maybe you want to ask your doctor if you can try it?

> All,

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well isnt this interesting. I also had/have? a nodule in my left lung. It was

biopsied and was of course not cancerous. I am not certain what other tests were

done on it so I cant say about the colonization thing. I highly suspect the same

and do know how to find out but am not finacially able to do anything further

about it. So far the most comprehensive tests done were from Dr. Shoemaker and

Dr. Hooper at realtimelab.com Just a suggestion but it might be a good idea to

contact Dr. Hooper for his advice. He has several labe that can test for this

type thing. So far three suggestions have been made. A nasal swab, sputum

culture and to re-test the biopsy in his lab. These are not cheap test by any

means but I believe they are worth it if you have the ability to pay. Do you

cough up any dark or even discolered mucus.

The first test I did with him found tricothecines in my system (still) Takeing

into concideration of the medication and time is where the suspicion of

colonization comes in. That is as much as I know.

Hope that helps

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All,

I have about a 10mm nodule in my left lung. The pulmunary specialist

insists that it doesn't look like aspergilliosis, or a fungus ball, but

it is in a place where I had pneumonia about a year and a half ago so

it could be scar tissue left over from that.

My fungal hypersensitivity continues to get worse. MCS is kicking in.

Everything keeps getting worse. I'm convinced I have mold colonization

somewhere.

He can not biopsy it either through bronchoscope (too far to the left

side of the lung) or single need (too small to exactly hit it) to

culture for aspergillus.

Anyone else been down this road? Do I just take his advise and

experience and a just monitor it?

Thanks,

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I don't know if this is the same thing or not, but after my mold exposure I was

found to have a nodule on my lung and one on my adrenal gland. I have been mold

free now for 4 years and have had CT scans every year. So far all the docs say

is that it is nothing to worry about and I don't ever need to have another scan

for this.

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> I don't know if this is the same thing or not, but after my mold

exposure I was found to have a nodule on my lung and one on my

adrenal gland. I have been mold free now for 4 years and have had CT

scans every year. So far all the docs say is that it is nothing to

worry about and I don't ever need to have another scan for this.

>

Great, hope you're doing better. Thanks, good to know that it could

just be scar tissue left over from the pneumonia...

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> If it was aspergilliosis, what would be the standard regimen and is he

> willing to do it?

> llaci

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It didn't look like an aspergilloma, he showed me a patient that had

it, so he may be right.

If if was an aspergilloma, he would have taken it out with surgery...

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> Hi ,

> I was in a sick building and have had chemical, mold, and asbestos

> exposures. When I left my building my lung scan also showed one

> nodule. I read that single nodules are present with asbestos exposure

> but I haven't had a biopsy yet. Take your scans and look at the

> Aspergillus website for the UK. They have images there of aspergillus

> in the lung.Compare your scans to the images. Dr. Marinkovich told me

> I had fungal colonization too. I took Sporonox and my eye soreness

> improved. Maybe you want to ask your doctor if you can try it?

> > All,

>

Did they culture the biopsy for aspergilliosis?

Tried 3 months of sporanox, just as Dr. Marinkovich recommends. Hasn't

helped a bit with the hypersensitivity...darn!

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Nodules in the lung and on Adrenal Gland. Everyone keeps fixing on the molds.

There are other microbes in wet-damaged building materials that are potentially

dangerous. These are the Actinobacter: Species of Streptomyces and Nocardia

along with Mycobacterium species. Streptomyces and Nocardia and other related

bacteria are capable of causing nodules referred to as mycetoma. Mycetomas are

bacterial nodules while eumycetoma are caused by fungi. These mycetomas contain

the organism and what is called sulfur granules. Mycetomas can occur in

individuals who have been treated with corticosteroids to handle inflammation of

the lungs and sinuses or following longterm treatment with antibiotics.

Mycobacterium are capable of causing hypersensitivity pneumonitis.

I have harped in the past regarding the Actinobacter but noone seems to be

reading and listening. You can go emediine and find blurbs on Streptomyces and

Nocarda. Also check for Falkinham on the CDC site for mycobacterium and H.P.

You can also find Falkinham with a Google search regarding the same subject.

The illnesses caused by the Actinobacter are recognized by the medical

profession as well as the CDC. But like an Ostrich they stick their head in a

hole in the ground out of ignorance and fear and pressure from insurance and

industrial companies. Or is it actually a hole in the ground or somwhere else

in their anatomy?

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

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Dr. Thrasher: Most of my problems I believe are yeasts. I was told by

Dr. Johanning that I have systematic fungal infection what ever that

is but I was never given treatment because he resigned, and the

other doctors were afraid to give me sporanox and said it was out of

their realm of expertise. I did Diflican for about 8 months but it

took quite a while to get anyone to give it to me. One of my bulk

samples taken turned out to be yeasts and that is what I believe is

throughout my body. There were also many molds and also stachy. I am

also allergic to candida albicans so I guess that is why I can't get

rid of it. P & K Labs did my samples are they are supposed to be one

of the best. But when the mold is in the air system and you can

smell it and you get the chest pain, sinus pain, etc. I would think

that is surely mold what ever kind it is. I can tell the difference

of mold exposure or chemicals but I guess many can't tell the

difference at first because they still have chemicals in their homes.

I have been doing this for 10 years now. Am I right on my thoughts.

I have had indoor mold in 4 places. I now have water damage on my

ceiling from the apartment upstairs but cannot smell anything yet,

but I am nervous about the summer months.-I pretty much gave up on

doctors even though all were helpful but after while there is no

money for it after so many moves. I did see several specialist that

acted like yeast was no big deal years back and now I read that it

has a high mortality rate, so why would the doctors have not known

about the dangers of yeast. I had the best insurance at the time.

Now the family doctor I have now knows how serious this i, but it

costs too much. Thanks for all your advise Dr. Thrasher. I have never

responded to any of your messages but always read them. In

, " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. "

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> Nodules in the lung and on Adrenal Gland. Everyone keeps fixing on

the molds. There are other microbes in wet-damaged building

materials that are potentially dangerous. These are the

Actinobacter: Species of Streptomyces and Nocardia along with

Mycobacterium species. Streptomyces and Nocardia and other related

bacteria are capable of causing nodules referred to as mycetoma.

Mycetomas are bacterial nodules while eumycetoma are caused by

fungi. These mycetomas contain the organism and what is called

sulfur granules. Mycetomas can occur in individuals who have been

treated with corticosteroids to handle inflammation of the lungs and

sinuses or following longterm treatment with antibiotics.

Mycobacterium are capable of causing hypersensitivity pneumonitis.

>

> I have harped in the past regarding the Actinobacter but noone

seems to be reading and listening. You can go emediine and find

blurbs on Streptomyces and Nocarda. Also check for Falkinham on the

CDC site for mycobacterium and H.P. You can also find Falkinham with

a Google search regarding the same subject.

>

> The illnesses caused by the Actinobacter are recognized by the

medical profession as well as the CDC. But like an Ostrich they

stick their head in a hole in the ground out of ignorance and fear

and pressure from insurance and industrial companies. Or is it

actually a hole in the ground or somwhere else in their anatomy?

>

> Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

>

Dr.Thrasher,

I was on long-term antibiotics (over 20 years) so this could easily

be the cause. What is your suggestion for treatment?

I was tested for HP at the Mayo, but they " didn't find any " ...

Thanks,

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> Nodules in the lung and on Adrenal Gland. Everyone keeps fixing on

the molds. There are other microbes in wet-damaged building

materials that are potentially dangerous. These are the

Actinobacter: Species of Streptomyces and Nocardia along with

Mycobacterium species. Streptomyces and Nocardia and other related

bacteria are capable of causing nodules referred to as mycetoma.

Mycetomas are bacterial nodules while eumycetoma are caused by

fungi. These mycetomas contain the organism and what is called

sulfur granules. Mycetomas can occur in individuals who have been

treated with corticosteroids to handle inflammation of the lungs and

sinuses or following longterm treatment with antibiotics.

Mycobacterium are capable of causing hypersensitivity pneumonitis.

>

> I have harped in the past regarding the Actinobacter but noone

seems to be reading and listening. You can go emediine and find

blurbs on Streptomyces and Nocarda. Also check for Falkinham on the

CDC site for mycobacterium and H.P. You can also find Falkinham with

a Google search regarding the same subject.

>

> The illnesses caused by the Actinobacter are recognized by the

medical profession as well as the CDC. But like an Ostrich they

stick their head in a hole in the ground out of ignorance and fear

and pressure from insurance and industrial companies. Or is it

actually a hole in the ground or somwhere else in their anatomy?

>

> Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

Dr.Thrasher,

Does diagnosis require a biopsy or can it be done by blood test?

They can't get at the nodule (they say)with either bronchoscope or

FNA...

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There are diagnostics available. You can go to Google and Look up Nocardiosis

and Mycetoma. There are good summaries and suggestions on diagnostics.

Generally, these two conditions are not considered by treating physicians

because the infections are rare and there is a firm belief in the medical

profession that only immunocompromised people get infected. However, based upon

what I have seen in the peer reviewed literature they can be infectious in so

called normal people. If an individual is chronically exposed and ill from

organisms resulting from water intrusion, is he/she normal? Jack D. Thrasher,

Ph.D.

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