Re: Dr. Shoemaker's Interview

[Guest guest]

I agree with the comparisons being foolish. I could never understand

what difference it made if mold was outside, where it belongs, where

it is needed to decompose organic matter and return it to the soil to

re-energize and renew it for new plant life.

It is also interesting to hear the genetic predisposition to triggers

that cause inflammation, and markers which predict reasonable

parameters of illness when returned to the offending environment.

It was the first time I heard Dr. Shoemaker, in this format, and I was

very impressed with his knowledge base, experience and his easy manner

of teaching the listening audience about the process of becoming sick

from a 'sick' building.

Thanks for sharing the information about the program, Sharon K.

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> I was happy to hear Dr. Shoemaker address the ongoing flaw of indoor

> vs. outdoor air quality comparisons. He stated that species are very

> different as is the ecology. This information needs to get out to the

> IQA people across this country...especially those who use this flawed

> comparative data to further deny worker's comp. claims.

>

[Guest guest]

You are welcome. Dr. Shoemaker will be on IAQ Radio again next week. If

you have never gone to their website, you should. Joe and Cliff, the hosts of

the program are compiling a VERY impressive audio library of the mold issue.

You can listen to all sides of the issue from advocates such as HADD to

defense experts such a Burge to treating physicians to microbiologists to

defense

attorneys like Govorno to remediators to Dr. Shoemaker.

It's a great source of info. And if you are going to be on the computer for

a while, you can listen to old broadcasts while doing other work.

_http://www.iaqradio.com/_ (http://www.iaqradio.com/)

Sharon K.

In a message dated 4/26/2008 4:29:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ginloi@... writes:

I agree with the comparisons being foolish. I could never understand

what difference it made if mold was outside, where it belongs, where

it is needed to decompose organic matter and return it to the soil to

re-energize and renew it for new plant life.

It is also interesting to hear the genetic predisposition to triggers

that cause inflammation, and markers which predict reasonable

parameters of illness when returned to the offending environment.

It was the first time I heard Dr. Shoemaker, in this format, and I was

very impressed with his knowledge base, experience and his easy manner

of teaching the listening audience about the process of becoming sick

from a 'sick' building.

Thanks for sharing the information about the program, Sharon K.

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[Guest guest]

Great information. I emailed them and thanked them for doing the interview

and bringing public awareness to this problem. Wish it could make the

national news some evening.

Sue

You are welcome. Dr. Shoemaker will be on IAQ Radio again next week. If

you have never gone to their website, you should. Joe and Cliff, the hosts

of

the program are compiling a VERY impressive audio library of the mold issue.

You can listen to all sides of the issue from advocates such as HADD to

defense experts such a Burge to treating physicians to microbiologists to

defense

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[Guest guest]

>

> I agree with the comparisons being foolish. I could never

understand

> what difference it made if mold was outside, where it belongs,

where

> it is needed to decompose organic matter and return it to the soil

to

> re-energize and renew it for new plant life.

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Hi,

I have learned it is a good idea to check outdoor conditions because

you need to know the source of the mold. Is it coming from the

exterior of the house such as a moldy roof, fence, composting pile,

orchard etc. with spores coming indoors? A much larger count would

be present outdoors in such cases. This doesn't mean the indoor area

isn't in need of remediation but it goes to the issue of liability

and building integrity; manner of solving the problem etc.

I know someone whose source for house mold were spores coming off a

crumbling detached garage roof. I know another person who bought

new fence and began having very bad mold reactions outdoors and

finally indoors. She had the fence checked and it was the source of

the spores. Exchanging the fence and interior cleaning solved the

problem. The garage roof needed replacing and careful disposal of

the original mess.

It is also good to see if the kinds of spores present are similar

indoors and outside. If indoor spores of a different type than

outdoors, it can be a significant clue to look well beyond outdoor

sources of spores. But regardless of outdoor concentrations, indoor

mold exists in a closed environment and will obviously have more

severe effects for smaller concentrations - although many

professionals will deny that logic.

Always remember that people are busy trying to avoid apportionment

of blame. They don't get that all most of us care about is solving

our health and housing problems. But for survival purposes, there is

no such thing as unimportant information when it comes to solving

problems of toxicity and contamination.

Barb Rubin

[Guest guest]

Thanks and it is good to see if there is blatant outdoor mold blowing

in like the fence or garage which is a great example.

But, unfortunately some unsavory and unethical 'testers' will put the

mold traps in the bushes, where mold naturally occurs in order to

create the " outdoor v. indoor " imbalance, because, the balance is

supposed to be:

higher on the outside

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lower on the inside

if it is

higher on the INSIDE

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lower on the outside

I understand there is a " presumption " of water intrusion.

It is the equation for testing that is out of balance, and perhaps

should be taken " in context, " rather than 'exclusive' which could tend

to favor the employer, in the case of a work " exposure " injury.

2008 ©

[Guest guest]

Did anyone pick up on what Dr. Shoemaker said about TB; that it

produces its own toxin.

I perked up when I heard this because shortly after being diagnosed

with Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency I started to do research on the

causes of Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency and I found out that TB use

to be the most common cause of Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency and it

still is in third world counties. It makes me think that the toxins

from mold may have caused my adrenal insufficiency.

Sharon Hanson

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> Great information. I emailed them and thanked them for doing the

interview

> and bringing public awareness to this problem. Wish it could make

the

> national news some evening.

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> Sue

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> You are welcome. Dr. Shoemaker will be on IAQ Radio again next

week. If

> you have never gone to their website, you should. Joe and Cliff,

the hosts

> of

> the program are compiling a VERY impressive audio library of the

mold issue.

> You can listen to all sides of the issue from advocates such as

HADD to

> defense experts such a Burge to treating physicians to

microbiologists to

> defense

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