Guest guest Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Rex Newnham as in the link below. Are your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and continued his work there , I think he died some years later. I have some of his documentation on file ,but you can find some of this on the net if you Google , but this is a good place to start. http://www.positivehealth.com/article/nutrition/boron-major-cause-and-cure-for-a\ rthritis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) and BORON are interchangable? Thnk so much > ** > > > Rex Newnham as in the link below. > > Are your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried > taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he > could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in > 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a > maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not > re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and > continued his work there , I think he died some years later. I have some of > his documentation on file ,but you can find some of this on the net if you > Google , but this is a good place to start. > http://www.positivehealth.com/article/nutrition/boron-major-cause-and-cure-for-a\ rthritis > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I don't know, but I continue into my 4th week on 12mg Boron capsules daily....am I cured, H*LL no, but there is hope for relief....I deal with nasty Spinal Stenosis....so that is a bear..... ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) and BORON are interchangable? Thnk so much > ** > > > Rex Newnham as in the link below. > > Are your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried > taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he > could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in > 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a > maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not > re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and > continued his work there , I think he died some years later. I have some of > his documentation on file ,but you can find some of this on the net if you > Google , but this is a good place to start. > http://www.positivehealth.com/article/nutrition/boron-major-cause-and-cure-for-a\ rthritis > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. Tucker To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) and BORON are interchangable? Thnk so much > ** > > > Rex Newnham as in the link below. > > Are your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried > taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he > could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in > 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a > maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not > re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and > continued his work there , I think he died some years later. I have some of > his documentation on file ,but you can find some of this on the net if you > Google , but this is a good place to start. > http://www.positivehealth.com/article/nutrition/boron-major-cause-and-cure-for-a\ rthritis > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Also read post #20963 on this forum. In it there is a link to two articles, one by Walter Last in which he explains the difference between boron & borax and that there are instances when borax is more suitable ~ like when addressing mycoplasma & candida. I believe that in that article he suggest that if one is using boron only to address arthritis then a suitable microbial program should be used. > > Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. > > Tucker > > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > and BORON are interchangable? > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yes, i read the article by walter last and fully agree. Thats why i take Borax. Regards Tucker To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 5:44 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  Also read post #20963 on this forum. In it there is a link to two articles, one by Walter Last in which he explains the difference between boron & borax and that there are instances when borax is more suitable ~ like when addressing mycoplasma & candida. I believe that in that article he suggest that if one is using boron only to address arthritis then a suitable microbial program should be used. > > Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. >  > Tucker > > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > and BORON are interchangable? > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 And where do you get your borax?? Thanks BJ Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > and BORON are interchangable? > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Woolworth's cleaning section, here, in Australia To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2012 4:33 AM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  And where do you get your borax?? Thanks BJ Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > and BORON are interchangable? > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Woolworth's...omg...a store of the past here in CA...miss that good old store... ________________________________ To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  Woolworth's cleaning section, here, in Australia To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2012 4:33 AM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  And where do you get your borax?? Thanks BJ Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > and BORON are interchangable? > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yep, I remember that you had mentioned that before ~ I forgot to address my reply post to the initial question by M. Britton as an addition to your mention of Earth Clinic in your reply. But now that I have you ... I remember you said that you take borax 4 days on, 3 days off but I don't recall seeing how much you take and also if you use it in addition to a broad spectrum mineral supplement. For example, I've always read that if a person is taking a large dose of one individual B vitamin that they should take a B complex as well in order to provide some kind of balance of all of the B's. So if you are willing to share the doses that you take and also if you experienced die off symptoms I would be interested in hearing your story. > > > > Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. > >  > > Tucker > > > > From: M. Britton <brittkar0@> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 > > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > > and BORON are interchangable? > > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I got mine from ebay. It is labarotory grade. Very safe and inexpensive. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BORAX-1kg-Sodium-Tetraborate-Decahydrate-Lab-Grade-/30\ 0709196282?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET & hash=item4603aa31fa To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 19:33 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  And where do you get your borax?? Thanks BJ Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > and BORON are interchangable? > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 The recommended dosage for Borax is 1250 mg (1/4 teaspoon) for men and 625 mg for (1/8 teaspoon) for women. I use this amount in a litre of water and drink throughout the day. Four days on and three days off. I also use magenesium chloride which works synergestically with Borax. I have found a noticeable difference in flexibility and joint health. I dont use any form of Calcium supplements as i believe like Walter last that we have unassimilltaed calcium deposits in body tissue and joints. The borax and magnesium will assist in assimilating existing calcium deposits. I noticed a level of discomfort in the first few weeks but have been informed that this was a normal reaction. Regards Tucker To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 22:00 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  Yep, I remember that you had mentioned that before ~ I forgot to address my reply post to the initial question by M. Britton as an addition to your mention of Earth Clinic in your reply. But now that I have you ... I remember you said that you take borax 4 days on, 3 days off but I don't recall seeing how much you take and also if you use it in addition to a broad spectrum mineral supplement. For example, I've always read that if a person is taking a large dose of one individual B vitamin that they should take a B complex as well in order to provide some kind of balance of all of the B's. So if you are willing to share the doses that you take and also if you experienced die off symptoms I would be interested in hearing your story. > > > > Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. > >  > > Tucker > > > > From: M. Britton <brittkar0@> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 > > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > > and BORON are interchangable? > > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 So would the Borax be BETTER for the joints?  I don't deal with candida, etc...  Also, why is the Mag Chloride better. I have used it, but can't recall why, it is a very soft tablet and absorbs very fast.....What brand mag chloride do you use?  Thanks  joyce  ________________________________ To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  The recommended dosage for Borax is 1250 mg (1/4 teaspoon) for men and 625 mg for (1/8 teaspoon) for women. I use this amount in a litre of water and drink throughout the day. Four days on and three days off. I also use magenesium chloride which works synergestically with Borax. I have found a noticeable difference in flexibility and joint health. I dont use any form of Calcium supplements as i believe like Walter last that we have unassimilltaed calcium deposits in body tissue and joints. The borax and magnesium will assist in assimilating existing calcium deposits. I noticed a level of discomfort in the first few weeks but have been informed that this was a normal reaction. Regards Tucker To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 22:00 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  Yep, I remember that you had mentioned that before ~ I forgot to address my reply post to the initial question by M. Britton as an addition to your mention of Earth Clinic in your reply. But now that I have you ... I remember you said that you take borax 4 days on, 3 days off but I don't recall seeing how much you take and also if you use it in addition to a broad spectrum mineral supplement. For example, I've always read that if a person is taking a large dose of one individual B vitamin that they should take a B complex as well in order to provide some kind of balance of all of the B's. So if you are willing to share the doses that you take and also if you experienced die off symptoms I would be interested in hearing your story. > > > > Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. > >  > > Tucker > > > > From: M. Britton <brittkar0@> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 > > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > > and BORON are interchangable? > > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Hi Joyce, I really dont know whether Borax is better than Boron, however the Boron in Borax is in another form. Walter last states;  " Boron tablets are can be bought from health shops or the Internet, commonly with 3 mg of boron. These contain tightly bound boron not present in ionic form as with borax or boric acid. While suitable as a general boron supplement, I do not expect them to work against Candida and mycoplasmas, or as a quick arthritis, osteoporosis or menopause cure. Most scientific studies and individual experiences were with borax or boric acid. To improve effectiveness I recommend 3 or more spaced-out boron tablets daily for an extended period combined with sufficient magnesium and a suitable antimicrobial program " . Magnesium Chloride is used as it is absorbed better than other forms of magnesium. I buy it by the kilo on ebay in pure crystal form and make Magnesium oil (although its not really an oil). 50% magnesium chloride 50% distilled water. The solution can be used orally or transdermally and is very effective. Thanks for your recent recommendation - Grape Seed Extract. I received it this morning and will be using it in the next few days. regards Tucker   Borax contains Boron in an To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 23:59 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  So would the Borax be BETTER for the joints?  I don't deal with candida, etc...  Also, why is the Mag Chloride better. I have used it, but can't recall why, it is a very soft tablet and absorbs very fast.....What brand mag chloride do you use?  Thanks  joyce  ________________________________ To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  The recommended dosage for Borax is 1250 mg (1/4 teaspoon) for men and 625 mg for (1/8 teaspoon) for women. I use this amount in a litre of water and drink throughout the day. Four days on and three days off. I also use magenesium chloride which works synergestically with Borax. I have found a noticeable difference in flexibility and joint health. I dont use any form of Calcium supplements as i believe like Walter last that we have unassimilltaed calcium deposits in body tissue and joints. The borax and magnesium will assist in assimilating existing calcium deposits. I noticed a level of discomfort in the first few weeks but have been informed that this was a normal reaction. Regards Tucker To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 22:00 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  Yep, I remember that you had mentioned that before ~ I forgot to address my reply post to the initial question by M. Britton as an addition to your mention of Earth Clinic in your reply. But now that I have you ... I remember you said that you take borax 4 days on, 3 days off but I don't recall seeing how much you take and also if you use it in addition to a broad spectrum mineral supplement. For example, I've always read that if a person is taking a large dose of one individual B vitamin that they should take a B complex as well in order to provide some kind of balance of all of the B's. So if you are willing to share the doses that you take and also if you experienced die off symptoms I would be interested in hearing your story. > > > > Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. > >  > > Tucker > > > > From: M. Britton <brittkar0@> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 > > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > > and BORON are interchangable? > > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Thank you Tucker! Here are two abstracts that might interest you: 2011 - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21129941 1999 - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10376277 > > The recommended dosage for Borax is 1250 mg (1/4 teaspoon) for men and 625 mg for (1/8 teaspoon) for women. I use this amount in a litre of water and drink throughout the day. Four days on and three days off. I also use magenesium chloride which works synergestically with Borax. I have found a noticeable difference in flexibility and joint health. I dont use any form of Calcium supplements as i believe like Walter last that we have unassimilltaed calcium deposits in body tissue and joints. The borax and magnesium will assist in assimilating existing calcium deposits. I noticed a level of discomfort in the first few weeks but have been informed that this was a normal reaction. > Regards > Tucker > > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 22:00 > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > >  > Yep, I remember that you had mentioned that before ~ I forgot to address my reply post to the initial question by M. Britton as an addition to your mention of Earth Clinic in your reply. > > But now that I have you ... I remember you said that you take borax 4 days on, 3 days off but I don't recall seeing how much you take and also if you use it in addition to a broad spectrum mineral supplement. > > For example, I've always read that if a person is taking a large dose of one individual B vitamin that they should take a B complex as well in order to provide some kind of balance of all of the B's. > > So if you are willing to share the doses that you take and also if you experienced die off symptoms I would be interested in hearing your story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Thanks Tucker, I'm going to order mag chloride again...I've used it before but forgot why....it's considered the Master Magnesium...  Anyway, good going with the G.S.E., it's the greatest...joyce ________________________________ To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  Hi Joyce, I really dont know whether Borax is better than Boron, however the Boron in Borax is in another form. Walter last states;  " Boron tablets are can be bought from health shops or the Internet, commonly with 3 mg of boron. These contain tightly bound boron not present in ionic form as with borax or boric acid. While suitable as a general boron supplement, I do not expect them to work against Candida and mycoplasmas, or as a quick arthritis, osteoporosis or menopause cure. Most scientific studies and individual experiences were with borax or boric acid. To improve effectiveness I recommend 3 or more spaced-out boron tablets daily for an extended period combined with sufficient magnesium and a suitable antimicrobial program " . Magnesium Chloride is used as it is absorbed better than other forms of magnesium. I buy it by the kilo on ebay in pure crystal form and make Magnesium oil (although its not really an oil). 50% magnesium chloride 50% distilled water. The solution can be used orally or transdermally and is very effective. Thanks for your recent recommendation - Grape Seed Extract. I received it this morning and will be using it in the next few days. regards Tucker   Borax contains Boron in an To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 23:59 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  So would the Borax be BETTER for the joints?  I don't deal with candida, etc...  Also, why is the Mag Chloride better. I have used it, but can't recall why, it is a very soft tablet and absorbs very fast.....What brand mag chloride do you use?  Thanks  joyce  ________________________________ To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  The recommended dosage for Borax is 1250 mg (1/4 teaspoon) for men and 625 mg for (1/8 teaspoon) for women. I use this amount in a litre of water and drink throughout the day. Four days on and three days off. I also use magenesium chloride which works synergestically with Borax. I have found a noticeable difference in flexibility and joint health. I dont use any form of Calcium supplements as i believe like Walter last that we have unassimilltaed calcium deposits in body tissue and joints. The borax and magnesium will assist in assimilating existing calcium deposits. I noticed a level of discomfort in the first few weeks but have been informed that this was a normal reaction. Regards Tucker To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 22:00 Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains  Yep, I remember that you had mentioned that before ~ I forgot to address my reply post to the initial question by M. Britton as an addition to your mention of Earth Clinic in your reply. But now that I have you ... I remember you said that you take borax 4 days on, 3 days off but I don't recall seeing how much you take and also if you use it in addition to a broad spectrum mineral supplement. For example, I've always read that if a person is taking a large dose of one individual B vitamin that they should take a B complex as well in order to provide some kind of balance of all of the B's. So if you are willing to share the doses that you take and also if you experienced die off symptoms I would be interested in hearing your story. > > > > Borax and Boron are okay to take. Boric Acid is not the same and can cause serious harm. Check Earth clinic for full details. > >  > > Tucker > > > > From: M. Britton <brittkar0@> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012, 18:06 > > Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains > > > > Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster) > > and BORON are interchangable? > > Thnk so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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