Re: Article~French Psychoanalysts Take Legal Action to Ban Film 'The Wall' About Autism

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing this, . It is astounding & distressing to know how

autistic children & their families are being treated in France & no doubt other

countries, too. It is sad that erroneous belief systems are getting in the way

of effective & compassionate treatment of people who are already suffering to

start with.

Merra

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> Greetings:

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> A friend sent mine sent me a link to this article asking, if I saw this????

It is a new film out of France titled, " The Wall " that some are trying to ban. I

don't even have words to describe what I felt reading the article or viewing

part of this film? Is France so out of touch with world views on autism???????

I think the lead in to the film below sums it up perfectly. I am in a state of

shock watching this film and totally speechless............... Is this how they

are training future students in autism??? Shame on France, but that is just my

personal opinion.......

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> French Psychoanalysts Take Legal Action to Ban Film 'The Wall' About Autism

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chantal-sicile-kira/the-wall-film-autism_b_1127680\

..html

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> Film with English subtitles @

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> THE WALL, OR PSYCHOANALYSIS PUT TO THE TEST FOR AUTISM

> This 52 minutes movie is the result of 4 years of investigation among 30

psychiatrists and psychoanalysts in France, that shows the way they see autism

and deal with children with autism. Some of them are in charge of pedopsychiatry

departments in hospitals today. 50 years of progress in science do not seem to

have had any influence on their dogmatism.

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlowfu_the-wall-or-psychoanalysis-put-to-the-te\

st-for-autism_news

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[Guest guest]

Bill,

Not aware of any other delivery difficulties, but how would anyone

know that they hadn't received messages?

Sounds to me as if we're talking about posting difficulties rather than

delivery difficulties in this case.

Anyway, assuming your below was a resend, I can confirm the original

hasn't shown up here so far.

--- Re: Article~French Psychoanalysts Take

Legal Action to Ban Film 'The Wall' About Autism

Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:02:30 -0800

Reply-To: aspires-relationships

To: aspires-relationships

*SNIP SNIP*

[The original of this response to was sent four hours ago - still

hasn't arrived on the List. Is anyone experiencing non-deliveries?]

[Guest guest]

Oh sorry Bill!

Please disregard my last posting. After double-checking I find I

was wrong and Delyth was right. I did receive your original post timed

on Wed, 11 Jan 2012 at 21:01:10 -0800 after all.

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> Hi Bill

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> I did receive the original at the time it was sent.

>

> Delyth

[Guest guest]

Eyre wrote:

> Oh sorry Bill!

>

> Please disregard my last posting. After double-checking I find I

> was wrong and Delyth was right. I did receive your original post timed

> on Wed, 11 Jan 2012 at 21:01:10 -0800 after all.

Hmm. I sent XX to ASPIRES, which sent it on to you and to Delyth (at

least) -- but not send it on to me. Interestingly, I didn't get

Delyth's post either.

So, apropos of your earlier response to me, it does seem something's

amiss with ASPIRES' *delivery* - to me - and not with my posting to

ASPIRES. Comforting.

But this *doesn't* mean ASPIRES itself is faulty. On other evidence,

now I believe it's my local cable company (Comcast, FWIW) which is

notorious for dropping connections and " doubling " transmissions -- inter

alia. My wife now sporadically is getting multiple copies of some

emails to her; the telltale clue.

Sigh! Technology!! Ain't it wunnerful? Sorry to bother everyone.

-Bill ...AS, retired geneticist, ...and pi$$ed

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>> Hi Bill

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>> I did receive the original at the time it was sent.

>>

>> Delyth

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WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA

http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm

[Guest guest]

> Eyre wrote:

>> Oh sorry Bill!

>>

>> Please disregard my last posting. After double-checking I find I

>> was wrong and Delyth was right. I did receive your original post timed

>> on Wed, 11 Jan 2012 at 21:01:10 -0800 after all.

>

> Hmm. I sent XX to ASPIRES, which sent it on to you and to Delyth (at

> least) -- but not send it on to me. Interestingly, I didn't get

> Delyth's post either.

>

> So, apropos of your earlier response to me, it does seem something's

> amiss with ASPIRES' *delivery* - to me - and not with my posting to

> ASPIRES. Comforting.

Yes, I agree with that conclusion now Bill because I've checked on the

website and verified that your original, namely...

Message-ID:

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:01:10 -0800

....coincides with the copy I received on my e-mail client, and there

was no undue delay in my copy reaching me

> But this *doesn't* mean ASPIRES itself is faulty. On other evidence,

> now I believe it's my local cable company (Comcast, FWIW) which is

> notorious for dropping connections and " doubling " transmissions -- inter

> alia. My wife now sporadically is getting mu ltiple copies of some

> emails to her; the telltale clue.

Yes, that seems a likely explanation, too. When Comcast and the like

discover that some of their customers' e-mails are getting lost, they

tend to rerun their backup copy before they've actually isolated the

fault, so people who weren't actually affected by the original outage

end up getting duplicates. You must have been in the outage area in

this case, so you didn't get either the original or Comcast's

duplicate. Their procedures are a bit too rough and ready IMHO!

> Sigh! Technology!! Ain't it wunnerful? Sorry to bother everyone.

" Don't let technology get on top of you " is my motto. It's meant to be

there for our benefit, not the other way round! Hence my typical

Aspie compulsion to dig into the detail of what happened in this case.

(retired ex telecoms guy)