RE: Help! Legally liable for cross-contamination?

[Guest guest]

Well that seem just SILLY!! Taking out the fixtures for testing is BS. If you

cross contaminated its still going to be there. With or with out the furniture.

You shouldn't have to move anything.

a

Michal <michalvictoria@...> wrote: Hi

Folks,

I am in the middle of a possible problem with the

realty company of the place I live in.

They are going to send a company to do air samples

because I have been having symptoms in this new place.

They have said that all items that were in our

previous home (which I said was contaminated) must be

removed before testing.

That sounds reasonable-although I let her know that

all items, including furniture, clothes, books,

mattress-where cleaned with a solution of tea tree

oil, grapefruit seed extract, and orange clean, or

left in the sun to bake before entering the new

duplex. Now I know it's not a guarantee of protection

from cross-contamination, but it was the best effort I

could do and afford. I have already reconciled that

books have to be thrown out, and the mattress too.

What if the air samples come out fairly clean without

all the stuff-or, even if they pick up mold, could I

be financially liable for the clean-up because they

could say it was my stuff that made the house moldy?

Does it matter that I took precautions and didn't know

the items were contaminated?

If you remove contaminated stuff, and the house itself

wasn't the problem, does there still have to be some

kind of cleanup done in the house?

I am worried, because I live on disability, and just

moving the stuff out (almost all our stuff is from the

other house) and having to rent a storage space (some

of the stuff is my husband's) is more than I can

handle and afford.

Help!

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[Guest guest]

Simply taking air samples won't answer any of those questions.

Some one with more expertise needs to be involved. Just who

and how requires more information.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> Hi Folks,

>

> I am in the middle of a possible problem with the

> realty company of the place I live in.

> They are going to send a company to do air samples

> because I have been having symptoms in this new place.

> They have said that all items that were in our

> previous home (which I said was contaminated) must be

> removed before testing.

> That sounds reasonable-although I let her know that

> all items, including furniture, clothes, books,

> mattress-where cleaned with a solution of tea tree

> oil, grapefruit seed extract, and orange clean, or

> left in the sun to bake before entering the new

> duplex. Now I know it's not a guarantee of protection

> from cross-contamination, but it was the best effort I

> could do and afford. I have already reconciled that

> books have to be thrown out, and the mattress too.

> What if the air samples come out fairly clean without

> all the stuff-or, even if they pick up mold, could I

> be financially liable for the clean-up because they

> could say it was my stuff that made the house moldy?

> Does it matter that I took precautions and didn't know

> the items were contaminated?

> If you remove contaminated stuff, and the house itself

> wasn't the problem, does there still have to be some

> kind of cleanup done in the house?

> I am worried, because I live on disability, and just

> moving the stuff out (almost all our stuff is from the

> other house) and having to rent a storage space (some

> of the stuff is my husband's) is more than I can

> handle and afford.

> Help!

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

So this is not standard practice?

--- a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote:

> Well that seem just SILLY!! Taking out the

> fixtures for testing is BS. If you cross

> contaminated its still going to be there. With or

> with out the furniture.

> You shouldn't have to move anything.

> a

>

> Michal <michalvictoria@...> wrote:

> Hi Folks,

>

> I am in the middle of a possible problem with the

> realty company of the place I live in.

> They are going to send a company to do air samples

> because I have been having symptoms in this new

> place.

> They have said that all items that were in our

> previous home (which I said was contaminated) must

> be

> removed before testing.

> That sounds reasonable-although I let her know that

> all items, including furniture, clothes, books,

> mattress-where cleaned with a solution of tea tree

> oil, grapefruit seed extract, and orange clean, or

> left in the sun to bake before entering the new

> duplex. Now I know it's not a guarantee of

> protection

> from cross-contamination, but it was the best

> effort I

> could do and afford. I have already reconciled

> that

> books have to be thrown out, and the mattress too.

> What if the air samples come out fairly clean

> without

> all the stuff-or, even if they pick up mold, could

> I

> be financially liable for the clean-up because they

> could say it was my stuff that made the house

> moldy?

> Does it matter that I took precautions and didn't

> know

> the items were contaminated?

> If you remove contaminated stuff, and the house

> itself

> wasn't the problem, does there still have to be

> some

> kind of cleanup done in the house?

> I am worried, because I live on disability, and

> just

> moving the stuff out (almost all our stuff is from

> the

> other house) and having to rent a storage space

> (some

> of the stuff is my husband's) is more than I can

> handle and afford.

> Help!

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Not to my knowledge and unless they tested the apt before you got there, they

are going to have hard time proving it wasn't there prior. I know you

mentioned you cleaned the stuff before you moved in but it may have given you a

false sense of security. That's why they say to throw out all porous objects.

I know that's really hard for most people to come to terms with but it could

save your life and other people you live with.

I know that's hard to get other people to listen and believe, so do whats going

to be the best for you to get healthy.

Blessings

a

Michal <michalvictoria@...> wrote: So

this is not standard practice?

[Guest guest]

Dr. Shoemaker states in his Mold Warrior book that in a case of heavy indoor

mold growth that even if you eradicate 99.9999% of all toxins you can srill have

hundreds of thousands toxin molecules per square foot left behind. In other

words there is no way to completley clean your stuff or house. He further

states that the only successful remediation is effective health treatment and

effective drying of water damage. You should not have to move your stuff out to

get a true toxin reading. Good luck LL

@...: kmtown2003@...: Tue, 15 Apr

2008 16:48:56 -0700Subject: Re: [] Help! Legally liable for

cross-contamination?

Well that seem just SILLY!! Taking out the fixtures for testing is BS. If you

cross contaminated its still going to be there. With or with out the

furniture.You shouldn't have to move

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie,

It doesn't sound very hopeful in being able to have a successful remediation.

I can understand that porous belongings would be difficult to save and also

realize that mold like dust will exist in some fashion--- is that what you think

Dr. Shoemaker means? Or is he saying in his opinion that successful remediations

are not likely? I know, I can't ask you to read the Dr's mind. Just your

opinion. I read his book a while back and didn't come away from it feeling like

he had alot of confidense in remediation. I would rather be more hopeful that

there would be a way to restore a home. Thanks -- Sam

laurie lowery <lannl4@...> wrote:

In other words there is no way to completley clean your stuff or house. He

further states that the only successful remediation is effective health

treatment and effective drying of water damage.

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[Guest guest]

I guess I'm wondering the same thing..is remediation

even possible, according to Dr. Shoemaker? Also I

thought that you cannot have successful medical

treatment for mold until you are in a (relatively)

mold free environment. So I'm feeling kinda confused

and hopeless...

--Michal

--- Sam <yaddayadda53@...> wrote:

> Hi Laurie,

> It doesn't sound very hopeful in being able to

> have a successful remediation. I can understand that

> porous belongings would be difficult to save and

> also realize that mold like dust will exist in some

> fashion--- is that what you think Dr. Shoemaker

> means? Or is he saying in his opinion that

> successful remediations are not likely? I know, I

> can't ask you to read the Dr's mind. Just your

> opinion. I read his book a while back and didn't

> come away from it feeling like he had alot of

> confidense in remediation. I would rather be more

> hopeful that there would be a way to restore a home.

> Thanks -- Sam

>

[Guest guest]

I take it your hypersenceitve now to mold??

Michal <michalvictoria@...> wrote: I

guess I'm wondering the same thing..is remediation

even possible, according to Dr. Shoemaker? Also I

thought that you cannot have successful medical

treatment for mold until you are in a (relatively)

mold free environment. So I'm feeling kinda confused

and hopeless...

--Michal

[Guest guest]

I have been increasingly more and more hypersensitive

since a bad exposure many years ago.

--- a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote:

> I take it your hypersenceitve now to mold??

>

> Michal <michalvictoria@...> wrote:

> I guess I'm wondering the

> same thing..is remediation

> even possible, according to Dr. Shoemaker? Also I

> thought that you cannot have successful medical

> treatment for mold until you are in a (relatively)

> mold free environment. So I'm feeling kinda

> confused

> and hopeless...

> --Michal

>

>

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