Re: Sharon Kramer is In Need of Everyone's Immediate Assi...

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

Thank you so much for your help and support. Marcie, Darlene, Jack and KC a

special thanks goes to you. I have been relatively low key about my

litigation with the authors of the ACOEM and US Chamber mold statements on this

board. I know the problems both health and financial that you all suffer from.

A

little libel suit just seemed to be no big deal in the big scheme of things.

So, to tell you in a nutshell what my lawsuit is about, I have been sued by

Bruce Kelman and VeriTox, Inc for writing in a press release in March of 2005,

that Dr. Kelman " altered his under oath statements. " when forced to discuss

the close relationship of the US Chamber paper (that concludes your illnesses

are merely a result of trial lawyers, media hype and junk science) and the

ACOEM mold statement (that is suppose to be an unbiased scientific paper).

Dr. Kelman and Dr. Hardin, who are both principals in VeriTox, Inc, authored

both papers.

The authors have stated that the " scientific concept " of the two papers are

the same. So much for unbiased science! Dr. Kelman has described them as

" lay translation " , " translation " " revision " " not lay translation " " manuscript " ,

" two separate works " , etc. In reality these two papers are at the heart of

the deceit over the mold issue. One was the promotion of a false concept as

legit science with the endorsement of a medical association. The other was

the marketing of the false concept by commerce. Togerther, they are a primary

reason physicians treat mold patients with great disdain as liars and

whiners when they claim mold has made them ill. They have been quite useful

in

fooling the courts that it as been scientifically determined mold toxins have

not made you ill.

In June of last year, before my expenses in this case became great, I could

have signed a little piece of paper apologizing for my truthful words. They

also wanted me to say that the testimony they give in court is based on their

understanding of legit science. Remember, I was only sued for 5 words,

" altered his under oath statements " , so to ask me to endorse their science as

legit was a little much beyond the scope of the suit. I couldn't do it,

knowing

the impact it would have on the sick. Had I signed that garbage, it would

have been perjury and it would have been counter to everything I have told

Congress about the Conflicts of Interest in the matter. I would not have been

able to live with myself knowing I had sold you all down the river to save my

own family's skin.

So..it is costing me dearly to defend myself. My legal bills are now at

$150K. I have paid over half of this with the help of my friends, some of whom

are on this board. And I thank you, so much. You know who you are. But win

or lose the case, I lose financially as my legal bills have to be paid

either way. Which I believe is the point of this case anyway - to run me out

of

money so I will shut up and they can continue generating much money from

defense expert witness fees while yours lives go down the drain. While your

doctors are intentionally misinformed and you can't get medical treatment.

BTW, Dr. Kelman is now claiming that my 5 little words written 3 years ago

have caused him emotional distress. I would like to understand how his stress

level compares to what many of you have experienced from a deceit in

medicine promoted by ACOEM and the US Chamber.

So, that is what this case is about. I have a motion for summary judgement

that is to be heard the end of June and hopefully the case will then be

dismissed. But win or lose, it could cost me my home just to pay my legal

fees.

So, I do appreciate the support both emotionally and financially that you all

have provided.

To read Dr. Kelman's testimony in question, the press release I authored and

decide for yourself whether he was " altering " when describing their

relationship in front of a jury, go to:

_www.moldwarriors.com_ (http://www.moldwarriors.com) . They are on the

right side of the web page.

Again, thank you all so much.

Love,

Sharon

In a message dated 4/17/2008 9:46:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jackiebreeze@... writes:

Hi,

I am so sorry but I am totally out of the loop on

this. I remember Sharon asking for us to post on a

website and teh link would not work. I am really ill

right now and can't stay online long enough to go back

searching the archives. Can someone please send me in

a nut shell what is going on and that link again. I

can help a little bit. Just either write me off list

or post here.

Thanks,

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Sharon, if they dismiss the case will your legal fees be paid back. I

surely hope so. Can we write anything in your defense. I include

everyone here in my prayers every night. I am not a really religious

person, but this illness makes you think more about God and what will

happen to all of us. I appreciate everything you have done for us. And

I keep writing trying to get help for us. ---

[Guest guest]

Sharon, Thank you very much for the details on what is going on. I would say

don't worry about being low key as far as letting us know the struggles it is

causing. (What about your emotional stress?) Without knowing any of this we

would never know how to much less that you need help which you need and is very

well deserved.

Please keep us informed on how it is going. Again thanks.

Chris...

[Guest guest]

When I had some money I used to donate to good causes but have had to

back off from that. However, you express yourself so well, why don't

you write a book about this, not naming any specific names (to avoid

another suit), and maybe you can recoup money and make more, make

lemonaid out of lemon perhaps. You have the gift to do that. Of

course it is more years but you already have the information and

knowledge. Noone expresses all this better than you. Book would help

thousands of sick people if not millions. You could have an attorney

read it over to make sure you don't make yourself vulnerable to another

suit.

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> Dear All,

>

> Thank you so much for your help and support. Marcie, Darlene, Jack

and KC a

> special thanks goes to you. I have been relatively low key about

[Guest guest]

Barb,

You wrote, " You could have an attorney read it over to make sure you don't

make yourself vulnerable to another suit. " meaning a book. I made no errors

in writing. It is the truth. The reason for this lawsuit is to silence me

about the deceit in science by ACOEM and the marketing of it by the US

Chamber of Commerce. This deceit and the marketing of the deceit is why YOU

can't

get medical treatment. It was intentional to keep the physicians in the dark

about poisoning caused by mold. If the doctors are not trained to treat

your illness, then you can't prove mold caused your illness. If you can't

prove

it, you also cannot win lawsuits. That is why they want me to shut up.

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. This is not about being right or wrong.

Its about them wanting me to shut up. I am not shutting up!!!! My

research into the conflicts of interest was the foundation for the Wall Street

Journal article. I spent 6 months working with the reporter.

In relevant part from my writing:

" In 2003, with the involvement of the US Chamber of Commerce and

ex-developer,

US Congressman (R-CA), the GlobalTox paper was disseminated to

the

real estate, mortgage and building industries' associations. A version of the

Manhattan Institute commissioned piece may also be found as a position

statement

on the website of a United States medical policy-writing body, the American

College

of Occupational and Environmental Medicine. "

Tellingly, I have ONLY been sued for the five words of " altered his under

oath statements " . Nothing else I have written has been challenged as inaccurate

thru this lawsuit.

You can read Dr. Kelman's testimony in question where he was altering when

forced to discuss the relationship of the two papers and the entire press

release I wrote at:

_http://moldwarriors.com/SK/index.htm_ (http://moldwarriors.com/SK/index.htm)

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[Guest guest]

Different Barb here:

In fact, you can't sue anyone for anything because the government

colludes with private industry. I made three complaints of pesticide

poisoning complete with lab tests showing I had been poisoned and

precisely what was in the environment as well. In each case, lab

proof or no, the EPA told me they DO NOT prosecute the misuse of

registered pesticides. They do a paper audit of the applicator and

unless they write down, " I misapplied this and that " (and just how

likely is that?), the EPA bows out and tells the consumer to

proceeds civilly for damages.

The EPA forces people to sue others (including the EPA) because they

won't do their job and enforce the FIFRA laws. Further, the laws of

pesticide application and the use of any toxic materials really

speak to how much of a poison must be applied for efficacy. There

is no one measuring the amount of release for those substances into

the air of the targeted location or drift to neighboring rooms in a

structure once applied.

I have seen consumer protection groups refuse reports of product

complaints because the consumer is asthmatic or 'sensitive'. I have

seen poison control and health departments refuse reports of adverse

effects from municipal spraying of pesticides and herbicides.

The system counts upon the fact that it is nearly impossible for the

average person to discover when they have been poisoned (laws ensure

tenants have no rights to advance notice of harmful chemicals

applications) and then inadequate exposure information (if any) is

given after the fact.

Accessible and affordable testing of residences, offices, schools

etc. is what stands between the consumer and the most responsible

practices in building construction and maintanence today. Since

people only care about getting 'caught', then it is up to consumers

to learn how to assess environments with suitable kits, listings of

lab resources, norms set up for living spaces rather than OSHA (the

US has no such requirements but WHO has some guidance documents) etc.

I have tested a lot of environments and almost always found serious

contamination to be present (only once for mold, however). It is

important not to rule out the damaging effects that VOCs, pesticides

and other substances do in combination with mold.

Once the consumer can show exposure data to their physician, it

opens the doors for that doctor to access the fullest amount of

information available (usually patient directed) and feel free to

pursue treatment options. Otherwise, they fear legal action against

them for writing down anything inferring poisoning by any substance.

They don't want to have to swear to anything in court either and if

an injury is work connected, the WC system will grind them to dust.

Sharon's story is not just one of the misuse of the legal system to

cow consumers but also a practice which reminds professionals to

stay far away from this arena of consumer advocacy.

All we want is to know what is in our environments and for the

information about invasive chemicals, microbial overgrowth etc to be

available to us. It never occurs to anyone that if we know what is

there, we can mitigate our own damages and no one will need to sue.

Once known, building standards and practices change. Like mold, evil

mainly flourishes in the dark.

Barb Rubin

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> Barb,

>

> You wrote, " You could have an attorney read it over to make sure

you don't

> make yourself vulnerable to another suit. " meaning a book. I

made no errors

> in writing. It is the truth. The reason for this lawsuit is to

silence me

> about the deceit in science by ACOEM and the marketing of it by

the US

> Chamber of Commerce. This deceit and the marketing of the deceit

is why YOU can't

> get medical treatment.