Re: Garnet- Applied DMSO to lower back

[Guest guest]

NSAIDS stands for 'non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs' such

as ibuprophen, for instance. Lola

> **

>

>

> Janet, I am maybe dumb, what is the abbreviation -NSAIDS -- means

> please.

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: Applied DMSO to lower back

> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> Date: Saturday, June 16, 2012, 10:16 AM

>

>

>

> Yes DMSO is a diuretic. Try to find the book DMSO Natures Healer for a

> very good read.

>

> Athletes regularly compress their injuries 24/7 with DMSO.

>

> I have taken up to 5 T of MSM for an acute injury but did herx the next

> few days -- headache, flu like aches. Dr in MSM the Definitive Guide

> mentions taking 10 grams a day. At 4,000 mg per teaspoon I was taking about

> 60,000 mg or 60 grams. I reduced that to 2 T for about a week, so about 24

> grams.

>

> DMSO generally reduces healing time by about 75%, although it depends on

> what tissues you are healing and what else you are doing to speed or slow

> the process.

>

> My chiropractor told me to take 2,000 mg of 3,6,9 Omegas instead of

> NSAIDS, which are harmful to your mitochondria, through oxidative stress.

>

> Janet R. , MA

> Wellness Consultant

> List Owner

>

>

> >

> > I have a history of back surgery ( 1993).

> > This mourning I bent over wrong and now in a lot of pain so I applied

> DMSO to area right away. The usual prognosis is 48 hours of worsening,

> probably due to inflammation, followed by 2 weeks of limited movement till

> inflammation goes down. DMSO should shorten this I hope?

> >

> > Is DMSO an anti-inflammatory like Ibuprofen? Do I need to even take

> ibuprofen if I use DMSO?

> >

> > Anoter question is DMSO a diuretic? I seem to be going to bathroom a lot.

> >

> > How many times can I apply the 70% solution today?

> >

> > Is ice also advised? Heat?

> >

> > How many days could I apply DMSO?

> >

> > How many grams MSM should I take?

> > thanks

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not related, but a family friend recently disclosed to us that he nearly

lost both kidneys from taking prescription strength Celebrex. He was

needing heart bypass surgery and the docs discovered this and he had to

be hospitalized and taken off of it until his kidneys were cleared of

the toxins. They have scheduled the surgery for late summertime. He

has had to wait that long for his kidneys to recover from the Rx

effects. Have heard of Ibuprophen doing bad things to stomach,

intestines, etc if used steadily.

Gerry

> NSAIDS stands for 'non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs' such

> as ibuprophen, for instance. Lola

>

> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ivanka Hanes wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> Janet, I am maybe dumb, what is the abbreviation -NSAIDS -- means

>> please.

>> Thanks

>>

>>

>>

>> Subject: Re: Applied DMSO to lower back

>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>> Date: Saturday, June 16, 2012, 10:16 AM

>>

>>

>>

>> Yes DMSO is a diuretic. Try to find the book DMSO Natures Healer for a

>> very good read.

>>

>> Athletes regularly compress their injuries 24/7 with DMSO.

>>

>> I have taken up to 5 T of MSM for an acute injury but did herx the next

>> few days -- headache, flu like aches. Dr in MSM the Definitive Guide

>> mentions taking 10 grams a day. At 4,000 mg per teaspoon I was taking about

>> 60,000 mg or 60 grams. I reduced that to 2 T for about a week, so about 24

>> grams.

>>

>> DMSO generally reduces healing time by about 75%, although it depends on

>> what tissues you are healing and what else you are doing to speed or slow

>> the process.

>>

>> My chiropractor told me to take 2,000 mg of 3,6,9 Omegas instead of

>> NSAIDS, which are harmful to your mitochondria, through oxidative stress.

>>

>> Janet R. , MA

>> Wellness Consultant

>> List Owner

>>

>>

>>> I have a history of back surgery ( 1993).

>>> This mourning I bent over wrong and now in a lot of pain so I applied

>> DMSO to area right away. The usual prognosis is 48 hours of worsening,

>> probably due to inflammation, followed by 2 weeks of limited movement till

>> inflammation goes down. DMSO should shorten this I hope?

>>> Is DMSO an anti-inflammatory like Ibuprofen? Do I need to even take

>> ibuprofen if I use DMSO?

>>> Anoter question is DMSO a diuretic? I seem to be going to bathroom a lot.

>>>

>>> How many times can I apply the 70% solution today?

>>>

>>> Is ice also advised? Heat?

>>>

>>> How many days could I apply DMSO?

>>>

>>> How many grams MSM should I take?

>>> thanks

>>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this, I've never taken Celebrex but have thought about it, the cost

probably saved me from trying it....about 30 yrs ago I ended up in the ER from

an old class anti-inflammatory.

 

 

I do take Advil, try to keep the dose as low as possible and take Probiotics,

Digestive Enzymes and DGL (stomach lining tamer, they call it) and HOPING these

are helping save my stomach and etc....

 

 

I deal with nasty OA and Fibro stuff and otherwise I'd be bed bound...so and ICE

helps me a lot too, higher doses of MSM too thru the day.   joyce 

________________________________

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 3:01 AM

Subject: Re: Garnet- Applied DMSO to lower back

 

Not related, but a family friend recently disclosed to us that he nearly

lost both kidneys from taking prescription strength Celebrex. He was

needing heart bypass surgery and the docs discovered this and he had to

be hospitalized and taken off of it until his kidneys were cleared of

the toxins. They have scheduled the surgery for late summertime. He

has had to wait that long for his kidneys to recover from the Rx

effects. Have heard of Ibuprophen doing bad things to stomach,

intestines, etc if used steadily.

Gerry

> NSAIDS stands for 'non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs' such

> as ibuprophen, for instance. Lola

>

> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ivanka Hanes<mailto:ivankahanes%40yahoo.com>

wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> Janet, I am maybe dumb, what is the abbreviation -NSAIDS -- means

>> please.

>> Thanks

>>

>>

>> From: Garnet<mailto:garnet%40grandecom.net>

>> Subject: Re: Applied DMSO to lower back

>> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

>> Date: Saturday, June 16, 2012, 10:16 AM

>>

>>

>>

>> Yes DMSO is a diuretic. Try to find the book DMSO Natures Healer for a

>> very good read.

>>

>> Athletes regularly compress their injuries 24/7 with DMSO.

>>

>> I have taken up to 5 T of MSM for an acute injury but did herx the next

>> few days -- headache, flu like aches. Dr in MSM the Definitive Guide

>> mentions taking 10 grams a day. At 4,000 mg per teaspoon I was taking about

>> 60,000 mg or 60 grams. I reduced that to 2 T for about a week, so about 24

>> grams.

>>

>> DMSO generally reduces healing time by about 75%, although it depends on

>> what tissues you are healing and what else you are doing to speed or slow

>> the process.

>>

>> My chiropractor told me to take 2,000 mg of 3,6,9 Omegas instead of

>> NSAIDS, which are harmful to your mitochondria, through oxidative stress.

>>

>> Janet R. , MA

>> Wellness Consultant

>> List Owner

>>

>>

>>> I have a history of back surgery ( 1993).

>>> This mourning I bent over wrong and now in a lot of pain so I applied

>> DMSO to area right away. The usual prognosis is 48 hours of worsening,

>> probably due to inflammation, followed by 2 weeks of limited movement till

>> inflammation goes down. DMSO should shorten this I hope?

>>> Is DMSO an anti-inflammatory like Ibuprofen? Do I need to even take

>> ibuprofen if I use DMSO?

>>> Anoter question is DMSO a diuretic? I seem to be going to bathroom a lot.

>>>

>>> How many times can I apply the 70% solution today?

>>>

>>> Is ice also advised? Heat?

>>>

>>> How many days could I apply DMSO?

>>>

>>> How many grams MSM should I take?

>>> thanks

>>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Bear in mind (and this is a *huge* over generalisation), that the body

gets used to stuff taken daily, depending where in the body and what it

is. Receptors have a sensitivity that will learn to accommodate the

environmental load. Depending what you take and where in the body it is

active, it might be worth considering cycling of products, even standard

foods. I live in Thailand now (originated in England) and they have a

food called SomTham (a lo-so street food). It's a spicy smelly food.

At first it disgusted me, then I got used to it, then I craved it. It

was like an addiction - it was an addiction - to spices. If food can do

that, then goodness knows what pharma can do. I see locals look in awe

as I eat whole chillies that they cannot eat, and without eyes/nose etc

running (it was actually the lemonade diet, or master cleanse diet with

Cayenne that acclimatised me). When in England even being in the

proximity of chillies would have had me sweating, but I use it as an

example of how the body is able (excellent actually) at adapting.

Regards

>

> Thanks for this, I've never taken Celebrex but have thought about it,

> the cost probably saved me from trying it....about 30 yrs ago I ended

> up in the ER from an old class anti-inflammatory.

>

>

> I do take Advil, try to keep the dose as low as possible and take

> Probiotics, Digestive Enzymes and DGL (stomach lining tamer, they call

> it) and HOPING these are helping save my stomach and etc....

>

>

> I deal with nasty OA and Fibro stuff and otherwise I'd be bed

> bound...so and ICE helps me a lot too, higher doses of MSM too thru

> the day. joyce

>

> ________________________________

> From: Gerry Simpkins <gsim@... <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>>

> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 3:01 AM

> Subject: Re: Garnet- Applied DMSO to lower back

>

>

> Not related, but a family friend recently disclosed to us that he nearly

> lost both kidneys from taking prescription strength Celebrex. He was

> needing heart bypass surgery and the docs discovered this and he had to

> be hospitalized and taken off of it until his kidneys were cleared of

> the toxins. They have scheduled the surgery for late summertime. He

> has had to wait that long for his kidneys to recover from the Rx

> effects. Have heard of Ibuprophen doing bad things to stomach,

> intestines, etc if used steadily.

>

> Gerry

>

>

> > NSAIDS stands for 'non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs' such

> > as ibuprophen, for instance. Lola

> >

> > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ivanka

> Hanes<mailto:ivankahanes%40yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> >> **

> >>

> >>

> >> Janet, I am maybe dumb, what is the abbreviation -NSAIDS -- means

> >> please.

> >> Thanks

> >>

> >>

> >> From: Garnet<mailto:garnet%40grandecom.net>

> >> Subject: Re: Applied DMSO to lower back

> >> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> >> Date: Saturday, June 16, 2012, 10:16 AM

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Yes DMSO is a diuretic. Try to find the book DMSO Natures Healer for a

> >> very good read.

> >>

> >> Athletes regularly compress their injuries 24/7 with DMSO.

> >>

> >> I have taken up to 5 T of MSM for an acute injury but did herx the next

> >> few days -- headache, flu like aches. Dr in MSM the

> Definitive Guide

> >> mentions taking 10 grams a day. At 4,000 mg per teaspoon I was

> taking about

> >> 60,000 mg or 60 grams. I reduced that to 2 T for about a week, so

> about 24

> >> grams.

> >>

> >> DMSO generally reduces healing time by about 75%, although it

> depends on

> >> what tissues you are healing and what else you are doing to speed

> or slow

> >> the process.

> >>

> >> My chiropractor told me to take 2,000 mg of 3,6,9 Omegas instead of

> >> NSAIDS, which are harmful to your mitochondria, through oxidative

> stress.

> >>

> >> Janet R. , MA

> >> Wellness Consultant

> >> List Owner

> >>

> >>

> >>> I have a history of back surgery ( 1993).

> >>> This mourning I bent over wrong and now in a lot of pain so I applied

> >> DMSO to area right away. The usual prognosis is 48 hours of worsening,

> >> probably due to inflammation, followed by 2 weeks of limited

> movement till

> >> inflammation goes down. DMSO should shorten this I hope?

> >>> Is DMSO an anti-inflammatory like Ibuprofen? Do I need to even take

> >> ibuprofen if I use DMSO?

> >>> Anoter question is DMSO a diuretic? I seem to be going to bathroom

> a lot.

> >>>

> >>> How many times can I apply the 70% solution today?

> >>>

> >>> Is ice also advised? Heat?

> >>>

> >>> How many days could I apply DMSO?

> >>>

> >>> How many grams MSM should I take?

> >>> thanks

> >>>

> >>

[Guest guest]

I am green with envy. Cayenne, Habaneros, etc are so very good for us.

I have to take my Cayenne in capsule form with meals. I like to take

one cap with each meal just purely for better circulation of the blood.

>

> Bear in mind (and this is a *huge* over generalisation), that the body

> gets used to stuff taken daily, depending where in the body and what it

> is. Receptors have a sensitivity that will learn to accommodate the

> environmental load. Depending what you take and where in the body it is

> active, it might be worth considering cycling of products, even standard

> foods. I live in Thailand now (originated in England) and they have a

> food called SomTham (a lo-so street food). It's a spicy smelly food.

> At first it disgusted me, then I got used to it, then I craved it. It

> was like an addiction - it was an addiction - to spices. If food can do

> that, then goodness knows what pharma can do. I see locals look in awe

> as I eat whole chillies that they cannot eat, and without eyes/nose etc

> running (it was actually the lemonade diet, or master cleanse diet with

> Cayenne that acclimatised me). When in England even being in the

> proximity of chillies would have had me sweating, but I use it as an

> example of how the body is able (excellent actually) at adapting.

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> >

> > Thanks for this, I've never taken Celebrex but have thought about it,

> > the cost probably saved me from trying it....about 30 yrs ago I ended

> > up in the ER from an old class anti-inflammatory.

> >

> >

> > I do take Advil, try to keep the dose as low as possible and take

> > Probiotics, Digestive Enzymes and DGL (stomach lining tamer, they call

> > it) and HOPING these are helping save my stomach and etc....

> >

> >

> > I deal with nasty OA and Fibro stuff and otherwise I'd be bed

> > bound...so and ICE helps me a lot too, higher doses of MSM too thru

> > the day. joyce

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Gerry Simpkins <gsim@... <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>

> <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>>

> > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 3:01 AM

> > Subject: Re: Garnet- Applied DMSO to lower back

> >

> >

> > Not related, but a family friend recently disclosed to us that he nearly

> > lost both kidneys from taking prescription strength Celebrex. He was

> > needing heart bypass surgery and the docs discovered this and he had to

> > be hospitalized and taken off of it until his kidneys were cleared of

> > the toxins. They have scheduled the surgery for late summertime. He

> > has had to wait that long for his kidneys to recover from the Rx

> > effects. Have heard of Ibuprophen doing bad things to stomach,

> > intestines, etc if used steadily.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> >

> > > NSAIDS stands for 'non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs' such

> > > as ibuprophen, for instance. Lola

> > >

> > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ivanka

> > Hanes<mailto:ivankahanes%40yahoo.com> wrote:

> > >

> > >> **

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Janet, I am maybe dumb, what is the abbreviation -NSAIDS -- means

> > >> please.

> > >> Thanks

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> From: Garnet<mailto:garnet%40grandecom.net>

> > >> Subject: Re: Applied DMSO to lower back

> > >> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > >> Date: Saturday, June 16, 2012, 10:16 AM

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Yes DMSO is a diuretic. Try to find the book DMSO Natures Healer

> for a

> > >> very good read.

> > >>

> > >> Athletes regularly compress their injuries 24/7 with DMSO.

> > >>

> > >> I have taken up to 5 T of MSM for an acute injury but did herx

> the next

> > >> few days -- headache, flu like aches. Dr in MSM the

> > Definitive Guide

> > >> mentions taking 10 grams a day. At 4,000 mg per teaspoon I was

> > taking about

> > >> 60,000 mg or 60 grams. I reduced that to 2 T for about a week, so

> > about 24

> > >> grams.

> > >>

> > >> DMSO generally reduces healing time by about 75%, although it

> > depends on

> > >> what tissues you are healing and what else you are doing to speed

> > or slow

> > >> the process.

> > >>

> > >> My chiropractor told me to take 2,000 mg of 3,6,9 Omegas instead of

> > >> NSAIDS, which are harmful to your mitochondria, through oxidative

> > stress.

> > >>

> > >> Janet R. , MA

> > >> Wellness Consultant

> > >> List Owner

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>> I have a history of back surgery ( 1993).

> > >>> This mourning I bent over wrong and now in a lot of pain so I

> applied

> > >> DMSO to area right away. The usual prognosis is 48 hours of

> worsening,

> > >> probably due to inflammation, followed by 2 weeks of limited

> > movement till

> > >> inflammation goes down. DMSO should shorten this I hope?

> > >>> Is DMSO an anti-inflammatory like Ibuprofen? Do I need to even take

> > >> ibuprofen if I use DMSO?

> > >>> Anoter question is DMSO a diuretic? I seem to be going to bathroom

> > a lot.

> > >>>

> > >>> How many times can I apply the 70% solution today?

> > >>>

> > >>> Is ice also advised? Heat?

> > >>>

> > >>> How many days could I apply DMSO?

> > >>>

> > >>> How many grams MSM should I take?

> > >>> thanks

> > >>>

> > >>

[Guest guest]

I would table the idea (I'm not an authority by any means) that perhaps

it's worth getting some cayenne on your tongue so that it can signal the

stomach what's impending in the immediate future. My 'gut' feeling

('scuse the pun) is that there's a connection there somewhere and the

stomach needs a bit of warning what's going to come out of the capsule,

even if it's just a few seconds.

Regards

>

> I am green with envy. Cayenne, Habaneros, etc are so very good for us.

> I have to take my Cayenne in capsule form with meals. I like to take

> one cap with each meal just purely for better circulation of the blood.

>

>

> >

> > Bear in mind (and this is a *huge* over generalisation), that the body

> > gets used to stuff taken daily, depending where in the body and what it

> > is. Receptors have a sensitivity that will learn to accommodate the

> > environmental load. Depending what you take and where in the body it is

> > active, it might be worth considering cycling of products, even standard

> > foods. I live in Thailand now (originated in England) and they have a

> > food called SomTham (a lo-so street food). It's a spicy smelly food.

> > At first it disgusted me, then I got used to it, then I craved it. It

> > was like an addiction - it was an addiction - to spices. If food can do

> > that, then goodness knows what pharma can do. I see locals look in awe

> > as I eat whole chillies that they cannot eat, and without eyes/nose etc

> > running (it was actually the lemonade diet, or master cleanse diet with

> > Cayenne that acclimatised me). When in England even being in the

> > proximity of chillies would have had me sweating, but I use it as an

> > example of how the body is able (excellent actually) at adapting.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Thanks for this, I've never taken Celebrex but have thought about it,

> > > the cost probably saved me from trying it....about 30 yrs ago I ended

> > > up in the ER from an old class anti-inflammatory.

> > >

> > >

> > > I do take Advil, try to keep the dose as low as possible and take

> > > Probiotics, Digestive Enzymes and DGL (stomach lining tamer, they call

> > > it) and HOPING these are helping save my stomach and etc....

> > >

> > >

> > > I deal with nasty OA and Fibro stuff and otherwise I'd be bed

> > > bound...so and ICE helps me a lot too, higher doses of MSM too thru

> > > the day. joyce

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Gerry Simpkins <gsim@... <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>

> <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>

> > <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>>

> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 3:01 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Garnet- Applied DMSO to lower back

> > >

> > >

> > > Not related, but a family friend recently disclosed to us that he

> nearly

> > > lost both kidneys from taking prescription strength Celebrex. He was

> > > needing heart bypass surgery and the docs discovered this and he

> had to

> > > be hospitalized and taken off of it until his kidneys were cleared of

> > > the toxins. They have scheduled the surgery for late summertime. He

> > > has had to wait that long for his kidneys to recover from the Rx

> > > effects. Have heard of Ibuprophen doing bad things to stomach,

> > > intestines, etc if used steadily.

> > >

> > > Gerry

> > >

> > >

> > > > NSAIDS stands for 'non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs' such

> > > > as ibuprophen, for instance. Lola

> > > >

> > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ivanka

> > > Hanes<mailto:ivankahanes%40yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> **

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> Janet, I am maybe dumb, what is the abbreviation -NSAIDS -- means

> > > >> please.

> > > >> Thanks

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> From: Garnet<mailto:garnet%40grandecom.net>

> > > >> Subject: Re: Applied DMSO to lower back

> > > >> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > > >> Date: Saturday, June 16, 2012, 10:16 AM

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> Yes DMSO is a diuretic. Try to find the book DMSO Natures Healer

> > for a

> > > >> very good read.

> > > >>

> > > >> Athletes regularly compress their injuries 24/7 with DMSO.

> > > >>

> > > >> I have taken up to 5 T of MSM for an acute injury but did herx

> > the next

> > > >> few days -- headache, flu like aches. Dr in MSM the

> > > Definitive Guide

> > > >> mentions taking 10 grams a day. At 4,000 mg per teaspoon I was

> > > taking about

> > > >> 60,000 mg or 60 grams. I reduced that to 2 T for about a week, so

> > > about 24

> > > >> grams.

> > > >>

> > > >> DMSO generally reduces healing time by about 75%, although it

> > > depends on

> > > >> what tissues you are healing and what else you are doing to speed

> > > or slow

> > > >> the process.

> > > >>

> > > >> My chiropractor told me to take 2,000 mg of 3,6,9 Omegas instead of

> > > >> NSAIDS, which are harmful to your mitochondria, through oxidative

> > > stress.

> > > >>

> > > >> Janet R. , MA

> > > >> Wellness Consultant

> > > >> List Owner

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>> I have a history of back surgery ( 1993).

> > > >>> This mourning I bent over wrong and now in a lot of pain so I

> > applied

> > > >> DMSO to area right away. The usual prognosis is 48 hours of

> > worsening,

> > > >> probably due to inflammation, followed by 2 weeks of limited

> > > movement till

> > > >> inflammation goes down. DMSO should shorten this I hope?

> > > >>> Is DMSO an anti-inflammatory like Ibuprofen? Do I need to even

> take

> > > >> ibuprofen if I use DMSO?

> > > >>> Anoter question is DMSO a diuretic? I seem to be going to bathroom

> > > a lot.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> How many times can I apply the 70% solution today?

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Is ice also advised? Heat?

> > > >>>

> > > >>> How many days could I apply DMSO?

> > > >>>

> > > >>> How many grams MSM should I take?

> > > >>> thanks

> > > >>>

> > > >>