Guest guest Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are antioxidants, which strengthen the immune system....big time. Â I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM Subject: Re: G.S.E. Â How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various reasons. -Biz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 ok, so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the grape seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better and cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should try that. i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape seed oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the immune system? barbara > ** > > > I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are antioxidants, > which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > reasons. -Biz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I use a grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good and healthy. ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. ok, so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the grape seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better and cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should try that. i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape seed oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the immune system? barbara > ** > > > I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are antioxidants, > which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > reasons. -Biz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when i make popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to make it in the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it in still has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter you can add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying it at the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the flavor less and the price more, it makes it easier. barbara > ** > > > Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I use a > grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good and > healthy. > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > ok, > > so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the grape > seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better and > cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should try > that. > > i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape seed > oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the immune > system? > > barbara > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > antioxidants, > > which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > > > > > How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > reasons. -Biz > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying many....don't use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil and butter. Mostly CO.... Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. joyce ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when i make popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to make it in the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it in still has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter you can add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying it at the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the flavor less and the price more, it makes it easier. barbara > ** > > > Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I use a > grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good and > healthy. > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > ok, > > so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the grape > seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better and > cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should try > that. > > i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape seed > oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the immune > system? > > barbara > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > antioxidants, > > which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > > > > > How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > reasons. -Biz > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Joyce, same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching coconut oil. but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't have to keep telling them. barbara > ** > > > I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying many....don't > use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil and butter. > Mostly CO.... > > > Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. joyce > > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > > i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when i make > popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to make it in > the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it in still > has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter you can > add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying it at > the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the flavor > less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > barbara > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I use a > > grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good and > > healthy. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > ok, > > > > so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the > grape > > seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better and > > cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should try > > that. > > > > i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape seed > > oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the immune > > system? > > > > barbara > > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > > wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > > antioxidants, > > > which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > > I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > > reasons. -Biz > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard before using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used to be?) Gerry > Joyce, > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching coconut oil. > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't have to > keep telling them. > > barbara > > > >> ** >> >> >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying many....don't >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil and butter. >> Mostly CO.... >> >> >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. joyce >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. >> >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. >> >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when i make >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to make it in >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it in still >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter you can >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying it at >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the flavor >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. >> >> barbara >> >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO >> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I use a >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good and >>> healthy. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. >>> >>> ok, >>> >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the >> grape >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better and >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should try >>> that. >>> >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape seed >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the immune >>> system? >>> >>> barbara >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are >>> antioxidants, >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. >>>> >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various >>>> reasons. -Biz >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the other day. she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she uses it for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, cooking it down and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember my mom had a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she fried food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go bad with high heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork so am kind of excited to try the lard. barbara > ** > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard before > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used to be?) > > Gerry > > > > Joyce, > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching coconut > oil. > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't have to > > keep telling them. > > > > barbara > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO > wrote: > > > >> ** > > >> > >> > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying many....don't > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil and > butter. > >> Mostly CO.... > >> > >> > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. joyce > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > >> > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > >> > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > >> > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when i make > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to make it > in > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it in > still > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter you > can > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying it at > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the flavor > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > >> > >> barbara > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > >> wrote: > >> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I use a > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good and > >>> healthy. > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > >>> > >>> ok, > >>> > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the > >> grape > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better and > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should try > >>> that. > >>> > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape > seed > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the immune > >>> system? > >>> > >>> barbara > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> ** > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > >>> antioxidants, > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > >>>> > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > >>>> reasons. -Biz > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced lard. I hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some things with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. Supposedly, Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew there was some reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got after them. To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it is still healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, perfering to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a while. But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it like a hot busquit with butter and organic honey. They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it doesn't get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find a souce for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here in the county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, chops and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he passed away a few yrs back. > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the other day. > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she uses it > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, cooking it down > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember my mom had > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she fried > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go bad with high > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork so am kind > of excited to try the lard. > > barbara > > > > > ** > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard before > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used to be?) > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching coconut > > oil. > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't have to > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO > > wrote: > > > > > >> ** > > > > >> > > >> > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > many....don't > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil and > > butter. > > >> Mostly CO.... > > >> > > >> > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. joyce > > >> > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > >> > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > >> > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > > >> > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when i > make > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to make > it > > in > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it in > > still > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter you > > can > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying it > at > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the > flavor > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > >> > > >> barbara > > >> > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> ** > > >>> > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I use > a > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good and > > >>> healthy. > > >>> > > >>> ________________________________ > > >>> > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > >>> > > >>> ok, > > >>> > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). the > > >> grape > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better > and > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should > try > > >>> that. > > >>> > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape > > seed > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the > immune > > >>> system? > > >>> > > >>> barbara > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> ** > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > > >>> antioxidants, > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > >>>> > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > >>>> > > >>>> ________________________________ > > >>>> > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > >>>> > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of coconut oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians complained. too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet consume gmo soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for them. i know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so hard to do something healthy with the alternative. theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too bad. now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn because the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that counter. oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i found my sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you want. also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck barbara On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: > ** > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced lard. I > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some things > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. Supposedly, > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew there was some > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got after them. > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it is still > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, perfering > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a while. > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it like a > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it doesn't > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find a souce > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here in the > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, chops > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he passed > away a few yrs back. > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > wrote: > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the other day. > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she uses it > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, cooking it > down > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember my mom had > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she fried > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go bad with > high > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork so am kind > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard before > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used to > be?) > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching coconut > > > oil. > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't have to > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > many....don't > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil and > > > butter. > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. > joyce > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ________________________________ > > > >> > > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > >> > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > >> > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > > > >> > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when i > > make > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to make > > it > > > in > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it in > > > still > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter > you > > > can > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying it > > at > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the > > flavor > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > >> > > > >> barbara > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO <jam2006@... > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> ** > > > >>> > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I > use > > a > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good > and > > > >>> healthy. > > > >>> > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > >>> > > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > >>> > > > >>> ok, > > > >>> > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). > the > > > >> grape > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or better > > and > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe should > > try > > > >>> that. > > > >>> > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with grape > > > seed > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the > > immune > > > >>> system? > > > >>> > > > >>> barbara > > > >>> > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > jam2006@...> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> ** > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > >>>> > > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any sources for organic meats locally. I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. " So true!! We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce wrote: > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of coconut > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians complained. > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet consume gmo > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for them. i > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so hard to > do something healthy with the alternative. > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too bad. > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn because > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that > counter. > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i found my > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you want. > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > barbara > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced lard. I > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some things > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. Supposedly, > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew there was > some > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got after them. > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it is still > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > perfering > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a while. > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it > like a > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it doesn't > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find a souce > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here in the > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, chops > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > passed > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > > wrote: > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the other > day. > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she uses it > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, cooking it > > down > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember my mom > had > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she fried > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go bad with > > high > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork so am > kind > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard before > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used to > > be?) > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > coconut > > > > oil. > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't have > to > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > jam2006@...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > many....don't > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil and > > > > butter. > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. > > joyce > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > >> > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > >> > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > > > > >> > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, when > i > > > make > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to > make > > > it > > > > in > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop it > in > > > > still > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the butter > > you > > > > can > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit buying > it > > > at > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the > > > flavor > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > >> > > > > >> barbara > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > jam2006@... > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> ** > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. I > > use > > > a > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's good > > and > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > >>> > > > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ok, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to find). > > the > > > > >> grape > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or > better > > > and > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > should > > > try > > > > >>> that. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with > grape > > > > seed > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for the > > > immune > > > > >>> system? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> barbara > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > jam2006@...> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> ** > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 ya know, today, those natural flavors are probably not approved by the fda (or they didn't pay their fee). my mom used to give us a liquid vitamin we called 'sunshine'. we also used to sneak more because it tasted so good. don't know if they knew how to make the synthetic then. at that same time, we live on a beautiful lake in w. wa, called lk. sammamish. we used to get our drinking water directly from the lake through a pike and pump. now days you'd die if you drank the water. so sad. they were fun day. barbara On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: > ** > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any > sources for organic meats locally. > > I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat > days. " So true!! > > We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember > Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have > to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the > taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry > flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > >wrote: > > > > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of > coconut > > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians > complained. > > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my > > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet consume gmo > > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for them. i > > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so hard > to > > do something healthy with the alternative. > > > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed > > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too bad. > > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn > because > > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that > > counter. > > > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i found my > > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you want. > > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > > > barbara > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced > lard. I > > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some > things > > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. > Supposedly, > > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew there was > > some > > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got after them. > > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it is still > > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > > perfering > > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a > while. > > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it > > like a > > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it doesn't > > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find a souce > > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here in the > > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, > chops > > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > > passed > > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > > > wrote: > > > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the other > > day. > > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she uses > it > > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, cooking it > > > down > > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember my mom > > had > > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she > fried > > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go bad with > > > high > > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork so am > > kind > > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Gerry Simpkins > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard > before > > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used > to > > > be?) > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > > coconut > > > > > oil. > > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't > have > > to > > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > jam2006@...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > > many....don't > > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil > and > > > > > butter. > > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. > > > joyce > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > > >> > > > > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, > when > > i > > > > make > > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to > > make > > > > it > > > > > in > > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop > it > > in > > > > > still > > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the > butter > > > you > > > > > can > > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit > buying > > it > > > > at > > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the > > > > flavor > > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> barbara > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > jam2006@... > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. > I > > > use > > > > a > > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's > good > > > and > > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ok, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to > find). > > > the > > > > > >> grape > > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or > > better > > > > and > > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > > should > > > > try > > > > > >>> that. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with > > grape > > > > > seed > > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for > the > > > > immune > > > > > >>> system? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> barbara > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > jam2006@...> > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Never heard the word SOY in my childhood growing up or cholesterol.... Today the population consumes lbs and lbs of this Cwap and talk about killing their thyroids for one thing, then the cholesterol myth....geeeeeezzzz ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. ya know, today, those natural flavors are probably not approved by the fda (or they didn't pay their fee). my mom used to give us a liquid vitamin we called 'sunshine'. we also used to sneak more because it tasted so good. don't know if they knew how to make the synthetic then. at that same time, we live on a beautiful lake in w. wa, called lk. sammamish. we used to get our drinking water directly from the lake through a pike and pump. now days you'd die if you drank the water. so sad. they were fun day. barbara On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: > ** > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any > sources for organic meats locally. > > I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat > days. " So true!! > > We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember > Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have > to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the > taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry > flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > >wrote: > > > > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of > coconut > > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians > complained. > > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my > > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet consume gmo > > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for them. i > > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so hard > to > > do something healthy with the alternative. > > > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed > > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too bad. > > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn > because > > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that > > counter. > > > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i found my > > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you want. > > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > > > barbara > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced > lard. I > > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some > things > > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. > Supposedly, > > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew there was > > some > > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got after them. > > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it is still > > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > > perfering > > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a > while. > > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it > > like a > > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it doesn't > > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find a souce > > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here in the > > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, > chops > > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > > passed > > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > > > wrote: > > > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the other > > day. > > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she uses > it > > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, cooking it > > > down > > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember my mom > > had > > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she > fried > > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go bad with > > > high > > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork so am > > kind > > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Gerry Simpkins > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard > before > > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used > to > > > be?) > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > > coconut > > > > > oil. > > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't > have > > to > > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > jam2006@...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > > many....don't > > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil > and > > > > > butter. > > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from soys. > > > joyce > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > > >> > > > > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, > when > > i > > > > make > > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used to > > make > > > > it > > > > > in > > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop > it > > in > > > > > still > > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the > butter > > > you > > > > > can > > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit > buying > > it > > > > at > > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with the > > > > flavor > > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> barbara > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > jam2006@... > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed oil. > I > > > use > > > > a > > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's > good > > > and > > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ok, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to > find). > > > the > > > > > >> grape > > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or > > better > > > > and > > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > > should > > > > try > > > > > >>> that. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with > > grape > > > > > seed > > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for > the > > > > immune > > > > > >>> system? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> barbara > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > jam2006@...> > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti viral.... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for various > > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 with you on that also. barbara > ** > > > Never heard the word SOY in my childhood growing up or cholesterol.... > > Today the population consumes lbs and lbs of this Cwap and talk about > killing their thyroids for one thing, then the cholesterol > myth....geeeeeezzzz > > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:54 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > ya know, today, those natural flavors are probably not approved by the fda > (or they didn't pay their fee). > > my mom used to give us a liquid vitamin we called 'sunshine'. we also used > to sneak more because it tasted so good. don't know if they knew how to > make the synthetic then. > > at that same time, we live on a beautiful lake in w. wa, called lk. > sammamish. we used to get our drinking water directly from the lake > through a pike and pump. now days you'd die if you drank the water. so > sad. they were fun day. > > barbara > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any > > sources for organic meats locally. > > > > I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat > > days. " So true!! > > > > We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember > > Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have > > to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the > > taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry > > flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > > >wrote: > > > > > > > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of > > coconut > > > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > > > > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians > > complained. > > > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my > > > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet consume gmo > > > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for them. > i > > > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so hard > > to > > > do something healthy with the alternative. > > > > > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed > > > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > > > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too bad. > > > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > > > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn > > because > > > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that > > > counter. > > > > > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > > > > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i found > my > > > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > > > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you want. > > > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > > wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced > > lard. I > > > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some > > things > > > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. > > Supposedly, > > > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew there > was > > > some > > > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got after > them. > > > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it is > still > > > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > > > perfering > > > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a > > while. > > > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it > > > like a > > > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it > doesn't > > > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find a > souce > > > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here in the > > > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, > > chops > > > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > > > passed > > > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the > other > > > day. > > > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she uses > > it > > > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, cooking > it > > > > down > > > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember my > mom > > > had > > > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she > > fried > > > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go bad > with > > > > high > > > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork so > am > > > kind > > > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Gerry Simpkins > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard > > before > > > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or used > > to > > > > be?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > > > coconut > > > > > > oil. > > > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't > > have > > > to > > > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > jam2006@...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > > > many....don't > > > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape Seed Oil > > and > > > > > > butter. > > > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away from > soys. > > > > joyce > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the extract. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, > > when > > > i > > > > > make > > > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they used > to > > > make > > > > > it > > > > > > in > > > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff they pop > > it > > > in > > > > > > still > > > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the > > butter > > > > you > > > > > > can > > > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit > > buying > > > it > > > > > at > > > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but with > the > > > > > flavor > > > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> barbara > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > jam2006@... > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape seed > oil. > > I > > > > use > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's > > good > > > > and > > > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ok, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to > > find). > > > > the > > > > > > >> grape > > > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or > > > better > > > > > and > > > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > > > should > > > > > try > > > > > > >>> that. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made with > > > grape > > > > > > seed > > > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for > > the > > > > > immune > > > > > > >>> system? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> barbara > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > > jam2006@...> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka OPC's....these are > > > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti > viral.... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for > various > > > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I've done a fair bit of research on the cholesterol issue, and my current belief is that LDL isn't bad (it's necessary actually!) but that one subset of LDL (Lipoprotein-A) is the real issue, and even then, it's only if you're lacking in other nutrients (Vit C, Arginine, Proline, Lysine, B6 etc) that it 'might' then be an issue. I take whole eggs and many of them, because I believe them to be a near complete whole food. That said, I get my eggs from a friend and I can see the chickens that make them and I know what they eat. They are usually smaller than what I see in local markets and brand name supermarkets, and the yolks are more orange than yellow, very firm, and don't taste/smell of fish (because they're not fed on fishmeal like many are). They are given extra iodine. We've tried giving them a wide range of different foods, and they seem to know what they like if given a choice. Surprisingly they don't seem to like vegetable matter (peelings, fruit skins etc). We leave it to their own intellegence rather than force feeding them with something industrial. They also produce at a rate that is much higher than would be expected. There does seem to be a correlation between a happy chicken with lots of space to roam as they wish, and the egg they produce. That shouldn't be surprising I suppose, but it was surprising to me to see how direct the correlation was with the look and taste of a nice egg and the freedom and happiness of the chicken. I think I'd be reluctant to eat supermarket eggs now unless it was the only thing available, now that I've seen the difference. B > > Never heard the word SOY in my childhood growing up or cholesterol.... > > Today the population consumes lbs and lbs of this Cwap and talk about > killing their thyroids for one thing, then the cholesterol > myth....geeeeeezzzz > > ________________________________ > From: Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > ya know, today, those natural flavors are probably not approved by > the fda > (or they didn't pay their fee). > > my mom used to give us a liquid vitamin we called 'sunshine'. we also > used > to sneak more because it tasted so good. don't know if they knew how to > make the synthetic then. > > at that same time, we live on a beautiful lake in w. wa, called lk. > sammamish. we used to get our drinking water directly from the lake > through a pike and pump. now days you'd die if you drank the water. so > sad. they were fun day. > > barbara > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > <phoenix23002@... <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any > > sources for organic meats locally. > > > > I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat > > days. " So true!! > > > > We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember > > Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have > > to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the > > taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry > > flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce > <gmaoceans@... <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of > > coconut > > > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > > > > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians > > complained. > > > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my > > > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet > consume gmo > > > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for > them. i > > > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so > hard > > to > > > do something healthy with the alternative. > > > > > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed > > > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > > > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too > bad. > > > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > > > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn > > because > > > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that > > > counter. > > > > > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > > > > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i > found my > > > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > > > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you > want. > > > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > > <phoenix23002@... <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced > > lard. I > > > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some > > things > > > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. > > Supposedly, > > > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew > there was > > > some > > > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got > after them. > > > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it > is still > > > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > > > perfering > > > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a > > while. > > > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it > > > like a > > > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it > doesn't > > > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find > a souce > > > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here > in the > > > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, > > chops > > > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > > > passed > > > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > <gmaoceans@... <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the > other > > > day. > > > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she > uses > > it > > > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, > cooking it > > > > down > > > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember > my mom > > > had > > > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she > > fried > > > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go > bad with > > > > high > > > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork > so am > > > kind > > > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Gerry Simpkins <gsim@... > <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard > > before > > > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or > used > > to > > > > be?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > > > coconut > > > > > > oil. > > > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't > > have > > > to > > > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > jam2006@... <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > > > many....don't > > > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape > Seed Oil > > and > > > > > > butter. > > > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away > from soys. > > > > joyce > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > > > >> From: Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the > extract. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, > > when > > > i > > > > > make > > > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they > used to > > > make > > > > > it > > > > > > in > > > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff > they pop > > it > > > in > > > > > > still > > > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the > > butter > > > > you > > > > > > can > > > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit > > buying > > > it > > > > > at > > > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but > with the > > > > > flavor > > > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> barbara > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > jam2006@... <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net> > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape > seed oil. > > I > > > > use > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's > > good > > > > and > > > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>> From: Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ok, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to > > find). > > > > the > > > > > > >> grape > > > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or > > > better > > > > > and > > > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > > > should > > > > > try > > > > > > >>> that. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made > with > > > grape > > > > > > seed > > > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for > > the > > > > > immune > > > > > > >>> system? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> barbara > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > > jam2006@... <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka > OPC's....these are > > > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti > viral.... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>>> From: biztekmom <biztekmom@... > <mailto:biztekmom%40yahoo.com>> > > > > > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for > various > > > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 paul, i agree fully. we used to raise chicken/eggs. it was always exciting to go out to the barn and 'pick up' our breakfast eggs. they never agreed with me, nor with my daughter. however, i seem to be able to tolerate them better as i'v aged. for those who buy organic at the store. i compared a costco org. with a local commercial org. and costco's yoke was darker. that was a surprise. best to buy from a local small farmer if possibble. barbara > ** > > > I've done a fair bit of research on the cholesterol issue, and my > current belief is that LDL isn't bad (it's necessary actually!) but that > one subset of LDL (Lipoprotein-A) is the real issue, and even then, it's > only if you're lacking in other nutrients (Vit C, Arginine, Proline, > Lysine, B6 etc) that it 'might' then be an issue. > > I take whole eggs and many of them, because I believe them to be a near > complete whole food. That said, I get my eggs from a friend and I can > see the chickens that make them and I know what they eat. They are > usually smaller than what I see in local markets and brand name > supermarkets, and the yolks are more orange than yellow, very firm, and > don't taste/smell of fish (because they're not fed on fishmeal like many > are). They are given extra iodine. We've tried giving them a wide > range of different foods, and they seem to know what they like if given > a choice. Surprisingly they don't seem to like vegetable matter > (peelings, fruit skins etc). We leave it to their own intellegence > rather than force feeding them with something industrial. They also > produce at a rate that is much higher than would be expected. > > There does seem to be a correlation between a happy chicken with lots of > space to roam as they wish, and the egg they produce. That shouldn't be > surprising I suppose, but it was surprising to me to see how direct the > correlation was with the look and taste of a nice egg and the freedom > and happiness of the chicken. I think I'd be reluctant to eat > supermarket eggs now unless it was the only thing available, now that > I've seen the difference. > > B > > > > > > > Never heard the word SOY in my childhood growing up or cholesterol.... > > > > Today the population consumes lbs and lbs of this Cwap and talk about > > killing their thyroids for one thing, then the cholesterol > > myth....geeeeeezzzz > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com > >> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:54 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > ya know, today, those natural flavors are probably not approved by > > the fda > > (or they didn't pay their fee). > > > > my mom used to give us a liquid vitamin we called 'sunshine'. we also > > used > > to sneak more because it tasted so good. don't know if they knew how to > > make the synthetic then. > > > > at that same time, we live on a beautiful lake in w. wa, called lk. > > sammamish. we used to get our drinking water directly from the lake > > through a pike and pump. now days you'd die if you drank the water. so > > sad. they were fun day. > > > > barbara > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > <phoenix23002@... <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any > > > sources for organic meats locally. > > > > > > I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat > > > days. " So true!! > > > > > > We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember > > > Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have > > > to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the > > > taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry > > > flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce > > <gmaoceans@... <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of > > > coconut > > > > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > > > > > > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians > > > complained. > > > > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. > my > > > > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet > > consume gmo > > > > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for > > them. i > > > > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so > > hard > > > to > > > > do something healthy with the alternative. > > > > > > > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but > changed > > > > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > > > > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too > > bad. > > > > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > > > > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn > > > because > > > > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past > that > > > > counter. > > > > > > > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > > > > > > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i > > found my > > > > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > > > > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you > > want. > > > > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > > > <phoenix23002@... <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced > > > lard. I > > > > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some > > > things > > > > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. > > > Supposedly, > > > > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew > > there was > > > > some > > > > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got > > after them. > > > > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it > > is still > > > > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > > > > perfering > > > > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a > > > while. > > > > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut > it > > > > like a > > > > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > > > > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > > > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it > > doesn't > > > > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > > > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find > > a souce > > > > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here > > in the > > > > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, > > > chops > > > > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > > > > passed > > > > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > > <gmaoceans@... <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the > > other > > > > day. > > > > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she > > uses > > > it > > > > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, > > cooking it > > > > > down > > > > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember > > my mom > > > > had > > > > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she > > > fried > > > > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go > > bad with > > > > > high > > > > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork > > so am > > > > kind > > > > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Gerry Simpkins <gsim@... > > <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard > > > before > > > > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or > > used > > > to > > > > > be?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > > > > coconut > > > > > > > oil. > > > > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't > > > have > > > > to > > > > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > > jam2006@... <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > > > > many....don't > > > > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape > > Seed Oil > > > and > > > > > > > butter. > > > > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away > > from soys. > > > > > joyce > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > > > > >> From: Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > > >> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the > > extract. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, > > > when > > > > i > > > > > > make > > > > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they > > used to > > > > make > > > > > > it > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff > > they pop > > > it > > > > in > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the > > > butter > > > > > you > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit > > > buying > > > > it > > > > > > at > > > > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but > > with the > > > > > > flavor > > > > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> barbara > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > > jam2006@... <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape > > seed oil. > > > I > > > > > use > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but > it's > > > good > > > > > and > > > > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > > > > >>> From: Barbara Pierce <gmaoceans@... > > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > > >>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> ok, > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to > > > find). > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> grape > > > > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good > or > > > > better > > > > > > and > > > > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > > > > should > > > > > > try > > > > > > > >>> that. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made > > with > > > > grape > > > > > > > seed > > > > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count > for > > > the > > > > > > immune > > > > > > > >>> system? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> barbara > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > > > jam2006@... <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka > > OPC's....these are > > > > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti > > viral.... > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > > > > >>>> From: biztekmom <biztekmom@... > > <mailto:biztekmom%40yahoo.com>> > > > > > > > >>>> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be > kind > > > > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for > > various > > > > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 , my issue is the inflammation factor and the whole egg (yolk) my body is achy with OA inflammation...so work at this issue. joyce  Your fortunate to get the freshest eggs out there..... ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E.  I've done a fair bit of research on the cholesterol issue, and my current belief is that LDL isn't bad (it's necessary actually!) but that one subset of LDL (Lipoprotein-A) is the real issue, and even then, it's only if you're lacking in other nutrients (Vit C, Arginine, Proline, Lysine, B6 etc) that it 'might' then be an issue. I take whole eggs and many of them, because I believe them to be a near complete whole food. That said, I get my eggs from a friend and I can see the chickens that make them and I know what they eat. They are usually smaller than what I see in local markets and brand name supermarkets, and the yolks are more orange than yellow, very firm, and don't taste/smell of fish (because they're not fed on fishmeal like many are). They are given extra iodine. We've tried giving them a wide range of different foods, and they seem to know what they like if given a choice. Surprisingly they don't seem to like vegetable matter (peelings, fruit skins etc). We leave it to their own intellegence rather than force feeding them with something industrial. They also produce at a rate that is much higher than would be expected. There does seem to be a correlation between a happy chicken with lots of space to roam as they wish, and the egg they produce. That shouldn't be surprising I suppose, but it was surprising to me to see how direct the correlation was with the look and taste of a nice egg and the freedom and happiness of the chicken. I think I'd be reluctant to eat supermarket eggs now unless it was the only thing available, now that I've seen the difference. B > > Never heard the word SOY in my childhood growing up or cholesterol.... > > Today the population consumes lbs and lbs of this Cwap and talk about > killing their thyroids for one thing, then the cholesterol > myth....geeeeeezzzz > > ________________________________ > From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > ya know, today, those natural flavors are probably not approved by > the fda > (or they didn't pay their fee). > > my mom used to give us a liquid vitamin we called 'sunshine'. we also > used > to sneak more because it tasted so good. don't know if they knew how to > make the synthetic then. > > at that same time, we live on a beautiful lake in w. wa, called lk. > sammamish. we used to get our drinking water directly from the lake > through a pike and pump. now days you'd die if you drank the water. so > sad. they were fun day. > > barbara > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any > > sources for organic meats locally. > > > > I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat > > days. " So true!! > > > > We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember > > Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have > > to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the > > taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry > > flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of > > coconut > > > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > > > > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians > > complained. > > > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my > > > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet > consume gmo > > > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for > them. i > > > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so > hard > > to > > > do something healthy with the alternative. > > > > > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed > > > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > > > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too > bad. > > > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > > > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn > > because > > > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that > > > counter. > > > > > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > > > > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i > found my > > > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > > > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you > want. > > > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > > <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced > > lard. I > > > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some > > things > > > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. > > Supposedly, > > > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew > there was > > > some > > > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got > after them. > > > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it > is still > > > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > > > perfering > > > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a > > while. > > > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it > > > like a > > > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it > doesn't > > > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find > a souce > > > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here > in the > > > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, > > chops > > > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > > > passed > > > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the > other > > > day. > > > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she > uses > > it > > > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, > cooking it > > > > down > > > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember > my mom > > > had > > > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she > > fried > > > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go > bad with > > > > high > > > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork > so am > > > kind > > > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Gerry Simpkins <mailto:gsim%40tds.net > <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard > > before > > > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or > used > > to > > > > be?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > > > coconut > > > > > > oil. > > > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't > > have > > > to > > > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > > > many....don't > > > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape > Seed Oil > > and > > > > > > butter. > > > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away > from soys. > > > > joyce > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > > > >> From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > >> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the > extract. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, > > when > > > i > > > > > make > > > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they > used to > > > make > > > > > it > > > > > > in > > > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff > they pop > > it > > > in > > > > > > still > > > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the > > butter > > > > you > > > > > > can > > > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit > > buying > > > it > > > > > at > > > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but > with the > > > > > flavor > > > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> barbara > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net> > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape > seed oil. > > I > > > > use > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's > > good > > > > and > > > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>> From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > >>> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ok, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to > > find). > > > > the > > > > > > >> grape > > > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or > > > better > > > > > and > > > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > > > should > > > > > try > > > > > > >>> that. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made > with > > > grape > > > > > > seed > > > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for > > the > > > > > immune > > > > > > >>> system? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> barbara > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > > mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka > OPC's....these are > > > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti > viral.... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>>> From: biztekmom <mailto:biztekmom%40yahoo.com > <mailto:biztekmom%40yahoo.com>> > > > > > > >>>> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for > various > > > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 This is a comment from a friend on another health board:  (((I question that arachidonic acid, in meat, egg yolks and dairy, automatically causes inflammation.)))   As much as I " hurt/ache " every morning when I get out of bed, I'm going to have 2 eggs this morning..... ________________________________ To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO " <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E.  , my issue is the inflammation factor and the whole egg (yolk) my body is achy with OA inflammation...so work at this issue. joyce  Your fortunate to get the freshest eggs out there..... ________________________________ From: <mailto:pmbond%40gmail.com> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E.  I've done a fair bit of research on the cholesterol issue, and my current belief is that LDL isn't bad (it's necessary actually!) but that one subset of LDL (Lipoprotein-A) is the real issue, and even then, it's only if you're lacking in other nutrients (Vit C, Arginine, Proline, Lysine, B6 etc) that it 'might' then be an issue. I take whole eggs and many of them, because I believe them to be a near complete whole food. That said, I get my eggs from a friend and I can see the chickens that make them and I know what they eat. They are usually smaller than what I see in local markets and brand name supermarkets, and the yolks are more orange than yellow, very firm, and don't taste/smell of fish (because they're not fed on fishmeal like many are). They are given extra iodine. We've tried giving them a wide range of different foods, and they seem to know what they like if given a choice. Surprisingly they don't seem to like vegetable matter (peelings, fruit skins etc). We leave it to their own intellegence rather than force feeding them with something industrial. They also produce at a rate that is much higher than would be expected. There does seem to be a correlation between a happy chicken with lots of space to roam as they wish, and the egg they produce. That shouldn't be surprising I suppose, but it was surprising to me to see how direct the correlation was with the look and taste of a nice egg and the freedom and happiness of the chicken. I think I'd be reluctant to eat supermarket eggs now unless it was the only thing available, now that I've seen the difference. B > > Never heard the word SOY in my childhood growing up or cholesterol.... > > Today the population consumes lbs and lbs of this Cwap and talk about > killing their thyroids for one thing, then the cholesterol > myth....geeeeeezzzz > > ________________________________ > From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > ya know, today, those natural flavors are probably not approved by > the fda > (or they didn't pay their fee). > > my mom used to give us a liquid vitamin we called 'sunshine'. we also > used > to sneak more because it tasted so good. don't know if they knew how to > make the synthetic then. > > at that same time, we live on a beautiful lake in w. wa, called lk. > sammamish. we used to get our drinking water directly from the lake > through a pike and pump. now days you'd die if you drank the water. so > sad. they were fun day. > > barbara > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Barbara.. I will ck and see if we have any > > sources for organic meats locally. > > > > I laughed at your comment " oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat > > days. " So true!! > > > > We didn't realize how 'healthy' we were eating back then. Remember > > Cheracol cough syrup? Remember how yummy it tasted? My mom used to have > > to hide it from us kids to make sure we didn't sneak it for the > > taste..lol. I had heard that 'they' have banned the natural cherry > > flavoring used in Cheracol? .. sad if true. Lola H. > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Barbara Pierce > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > i think i mentioned it before-can never remember-but i use lots of > > coconut > > > oil on air popped pop corn. sooooo goooood. > > > > > > mcdonalds used to do their fries in lard until the vegetarians > > complained. > > > too bad because what you have now is so much worse for your health. my > > > step daughter's family gave up meat for health reasons, yet > consume gmo > > > soy (they didn't know about gmo) and the stuff that is worse for > them. i > > > know many do it for the 'humane' element, understand, but it is so > hard > > to > > > do something healthy with the alternative. > > > > > > theaters used to use the coc. oil and palm oil in popcorn, but changed > > > because of the manufactured fear of saturated fats so the chem/food > > > industry could sell their fake/plastic/gmo oils and margarine. too > bad. > > > now, the cost is high for coc. oil so they sub canola oil and butter > > > flavored oil at the theaters. we gave up our love of their popcorn > > because > > > the quality went down and price went up. so hard as you walk past that > > > counter. > > > > > > oh, for the good old, natural saturated fat days. > > > > > > there is a site in wa state called 'eat wild washington' where i > found my > > > sources. you may have one in your state as i understand they do other > > > states. if not, go on line and google your area and what meat you > want. > > > also, check craig's list, and the classified. good luck > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net > > > <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net <mailto:phoenix23002%40tds.net>>wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara... you lucky ducky to have access to organically produced > > lard. I > > > > hated giving up my Crisco because it is just hard to do/cook some > > things > > > > with anything else. But lard will sure fill the bill for you. > > Supposedly, > > > > Hardee's fried their fried chicken in lard for years (I knew > there was > > > some > > > > reason I loved their chicken..lol) until the fat police got > after them. > > > > To me, lard falls in the same catagory as butter. That is.. it > is still > > > > healthier than most things out there but I use butter sparingly, > > > perfering > > > > to use coconut oil most of the time and using olive oil once in a > > while. > > > > But... coconut oil on a fresh, home-made bisquit just doesn't cut it > > > like a > > > > hot busquit with butter and organic honey. > > > > > > > > They say nothing makes bisquits, fried chicken (or porkchops), milk > > > > gravy and pie crusts like lard. Do keep it in the freezer so it > doesn't > > > > get rancid on you and enjoy !!! Lola H. > > > > ps... you aren't anywhere in Va., are you? I would love to find > a souce > > > > for organically raised pork. We used to have an old fella here > in the > > > > county who would butcher and wrap our beef and he sold pork roasts, > > chops > > > > and sausage also. But noone else in the county 'stepped up' when he > > > passed > > > > away a few yrs back. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Barbara Pierce > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > we had ordered a hog (meat) and just talked to the butcher the > other > > > day. > > > > > she asked if i wanted the lard. i asked what for. she said she > uses > > it > > > > > for pie crust and frying. she explained how to process it, > cooking it > > > > down > > > > > and skimming, cube it and freeze for use as needed. i remember > my mom > > > had > > > > > a 'grease container' that was kept on the stove and used when she > > fried > > > > > food. that is how it always used to be before crisco. > > > > > > > > > > she said the lard makes the best pie crust and it doesn't go > bad with > > > > high > > > > > heat as veg. oils do in frying. this is an organic raised pork > so am > > > kind > > > > > of excited to try the lard. > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Gerry Simpkins <mailto:gsim%40tds.net > <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto here. We use CO, Butter, or Olive Oil. I would use lard > > before > > > > > > using some of the cooking oils as at least it is organic (or > used > > to > > > > be?) > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same here. i know my family gets tired of me always preaching > > > coconut > > > > > > oil. > > > > > > > but i do it anyway. if they would just do it right i wouldn't > > have > > > to > > > > > > > keep telling them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I too use Coconut Oil, Nutivia is my favorite after trying > > > > > many....don't > > > > > > >> use soys or canola....other wise use Olive Oil, Grape > Seed Oil > > and > > > > > > butter. > > > > > > >> Mostly CO.... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Soy does mess up thyroid production....so I stay away > from soys. > > > > joyce > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > > > >> From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > >> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:00 PM > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> yes, and i don't use a lot of it. so will go with the > extract. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> i mainly use coconut oil for cooking. love the flavor. also, > > when > > > i > > > > > make > > > > > > >> popcorn, i use a lot of it melted on it. just like they > used to > > > make > > > > > it > > > > > > in > > > > > > >> the old days in the theaters. today, though the stuff > they pop > > it > > > in > > > > > > still > > > > > > >> has coconut oil, it is less, and more canola/soy oils. the > > butter > > > > you > > > > > > can > > > > > > >> add on top of it is just butter 'flavored' canola. we quit > > buying > > > it > > > > > at > > > > > > >> the theater. it is so hard walking past that smell, but > with the > > > > > flavor > > > > > > >> less and the price more, it makes it easier. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> barbara > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net> > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Well, you'd have to consume a LOT of mayo with grape > seed oil. > > I > > > > use > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> grape seed oil for cooking, but I don't count that, but it's > > good > > > > and > > > > > > >>> healthy. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>> From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com > <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > >>> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:01 PM > > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ok, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> so we are on the same page (which is often hard for me to > > find). > > > > the > > > > > > >> grape > > > > > > >>> seed extract is what we are talking about that is as good or > > > better > > > > > and > > > > > > >>> cheaper, then pyc. right. if so, that is a good deal. maybe > > > should > > > > > try > > > > > > >>> that. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> i use a veggy mayonnaise (allergic to eggs) that is made > with > > > grape > > > > > > seed > > > > > > >>> oil and it is good. expensive, but good. does that count for > > the > > > > > immune > > > > > > >>> system? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> barbara > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:48 PM, JOYCE MARTINO < > > > > mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I take capsules of Grape Seed Extract aka > OPC's....these are > > > > > > >>> antioxidants, > > > > > > >>>> which strengthen the immune system....big time. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I don't take grapefruit seed extract the liquid anti > viral.... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > > > > >>>> From: biztekmom <mailto:biztekmom%40yahoo.com > <mailto:biztekmom%40yahoo.com>> > > > > > > >>>> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM > > > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: G.S.E. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> How do you take the G.S.E.? The liquid I have would be kind > > > > > > >>>> of difficult to get down. I've used it externally for > various > > > > > > >>>> reasons. -Biz > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 you must be allergic to Eggs, Joyce, as they don't do that to everybody. I nearly lived on them at one point when I was really sick... the only protein I cd tolerate. Egg whites in particular cause the problem, since vaccines use eggwhite as culture. when I worked w/ the autistic kids, this was a huge issue; many were intolerant. ---tls Re: Re: G.S.E. , my issue is the inflammation factor and the whole egg (yolk) my body is achy with OA inflammation...so work at this issue. joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I don't believe I'm allergic, it's all the info out there on the anaraonic(sp)acid in the yolk that concerns me, re Inflammation.... ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: G.S.E.  you must be allergic to Eggs, Joyce, as they don't do that to everybody. I nearly lived on them at one point when I was really sick... the only protein I cd tolerate. Egg whites in particular cause the problem, since vaccines use eggwhite as culture. when I worked w/ the autistic kids, this was a huge issue; many were intolerant. ---tls Re: Re: G.S.E. , my issue is the inflammation factor and the whole egg (yolk) my body is achy with OA inflammation...so work at this issue. joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm confused. ..so these are not your symptoms ..?? --tls " my issue is the inflammation factor and the whole egg (yolk) my body is achy with OA inflammation...so work at this issue. joyce " ----- Original Message ----- From: JOYCE MARTINO I don't believe I'm allergic, it's all the info out there on the anaraonic(sp)acid in the yolk that concerns me, re Inflammation.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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