Re: Multiple Chemical Sensitivity not related to traumatic events study finds

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How did they come up with that conclusion???

Kim <indypets1965@...> wrote:

http://www.ei-resource.org/news/multiple-chemical-sensitivity-

news/multiple-chemical-sensitivity-not-related-to-traumatic-events-

study-finds/

Kim

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Well damn, Guess I can cure myself with some of their expensive brain chemical

changing drugs and walla, cured. Thats great news isn't it. NOT....

Kim <indypets1965@...> wrote:

http://www.ei-resource.org/news/multiple-chemical-sensitivity-

news/multiple-chemical-sensitivity-not-related-to-traumatic-events-

study-finds/

Kim

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Hi Kim,

That sounds to me like total nonsense.I know that for me it was my

exposure to both mold Asper/pen/stacky and possibly from repeated

exposure to pestisides and fungisides chems everywhere in fla that

caused my MCS.Maybe there is some component to the psychiatric side but

with me it is 100% physiological.

Bob

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> http://www.ei-resource.org/news/multiple-chemical-sensitivity-

> news/multiple-chemical-sensitivity-not-related-to-traumatic-events-

> study-finds/

>

> Kim

>

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Kim/All:

Instead of studying something absolutely stupid such as learning that MCS

(idiopathic of course) is in fact not related to traumatic events, why don't

scientists study more about how various exposures to microorganisms such as

bacteria and microfungi chemically weaken and mutate genetic structures

accumulatively over multiple continuous, or sporadic reexposure, to induce

highly sensitized human cells that now react to a multiple of chemicals.

Remember most of the chemicals in various cleaning and sanitizing products,

foods, medicines, etc., are extracted and integrated with organic chemicals

created by plant life, animals, and microbes as survival mechanisms in an

external world.

God Bless and take care.

Doug Haney

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well, doh.....

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The reason I posted this and as before you need to click on both lines

of the link to go to the article...The researchers has the presumption

and preconceived conclusions when they started the study that MCS was a

psychological problem from trauma whereas the results they showed

seemed to point to another mechanism. The thing about research is that

they usually address one or very few questions and then they develop a

way to prove or disprove it.

I only posted this as another study where the results showed that it is

not rooted in psychological illness (which there are not many) to use

as an argument and add to you arsenal to address with those out there

who say otherwise including many of those in the medical community. You

and I know that it is not rooted in psychological illness, although

many of the symptoms are psychological, but has very " real " roots from

physical injury. I know this is not the be all end all study to prove

the physical basis of MCS but for right now it is all we got. Little

baby steps are better than nothing at all.

Kim

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> well, doh.....

>

[Guest guest]

Have you not seen the study done my the Univesity Of Washingtons Moleculor

Science. Where the have proven are case and than some. They even named it, Its

called the No oh no cylce!! They even post suggested treatment.

Where is that study when I need it. Oh yeah its always on Dr Ziems website!

I bet a few on the group would like to rename it!!! any suggestions??

Kim <indypets1965@...> wrote: The reason I

posted this and as before you need to click on both lines

of the link to go to the article...The researchers has the presumption

and preconceived conclusions when they started the study that MCS was a

psychological problem from trauma whereas the results they showed

seemed to point to another mechanism. The thing about research is that

they usually address one or very few questions and then they develop a

way to prove or disprove it.

I only posted this as another study where the results showed that it is

not rooted in psychological illness (which there are not many) to use

as an argument and add to you arsenal to address with those out there

who say otherwise including many of those in the medical community. You

and I know that it is not rooted in psychological illness, although

many of the symptoms are psychological, but has very " real " roots from

physical injury. I know this is not the be all end all study to prove

the physical basis of MCS but for right now it is all we got. Little

baby steps are better than nothing at all.

Kim

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> well, doh.....

>

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Sure, how bout the " hey you, that stinks, gives me a headache, gonna throw up,

now Im itchy and my visions blurry and I feel narcleptic syndrome "

On the subject, I have not had time to research this yet but there was a

T. Blevins, Ph.D fromm Suncrest Laboratories in Alabama at my parents

home today. I spoke with him breifley and he said that a lady named

has done alot of work on the MCS issue. Maybe she has been named here

before I don't know. I will do some looking in a bit but I thought Ide throw

that out for anyone interested.

Oh, and hey goofy, this post has nothing to do with lung cancer. Leave me

alone.

a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote:

Have you not seen the study done my the Univesity Of Washingtons

Moleculor Science. Where the have proven are case and than some. They even named

it, Its called the No oh no cylce!! They even post suggested treatment.

Where is that study when I need it. Oh yeah its always on Dr Ziems website!

I bet a few on the group would like to rename it!!! any suggestions??

Kim <indypets1965@...> wrote: The reason I posted this and as before you

need to click on both lines

of the link to go to the article...The researchers has the presumption

and preconceived conclusions when they started the study that MCS was a

psychological problem from trauma whereas the results they showed

seemed to point to another mechanism. The thing about research is that

they usually address one or very few questions and then they develop a

way to prove or disprove it.

I only posted this as another study where the results showed that it is

not rooted in psychological illness (which there are not many) to use

as an argument and add to you arsenal to address with those out there

who say otherwise including many of those in the medical community. You

and I know that it is not rooted in psychological illness, although

many of the symptoms are psychological, but has very " real " roots from

physical injury. I know this is not the be all end all study to prove

the physical basis of MCS but for right now it is all we got. Little

baby steps are better than nothing at all.

Kim

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> well, doh.....

>

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Ok well this looks like a good start.

http://familymed.uthscsa.edu/administrative/facultybios/miller.htm

a Townsend <kmtown2003@...> wrote:

Have you not seen the study done my the Univesity Of Washingtons

Moleculor Science. Where the have proven are case and than some. They even named

it, Its called the No oh no cylce!! They even post suggested treatment.

Where is that study when I need it. Oh yeah its always on Dr Ziems website!

I bet a few on the group would like to rename it!!! any suggestions??

Kim <indypets1965@...> wrote: The reason I posted this and as before you

need to click on both lines

of the link to go to the article...The researchers has the presumption

and preconceived conclusions when they started the study that MCS was a

psychological problem from trauma whereas the results they showed

seemed to point to another mechanism. The thing about research is that

they usually address one or very few questions and then they develop a

way to prove or disprove it.

I only posted this as another study where the results showed that it is

not rooted in psychological illness (which there are not many) to use

as an argument and add to you arsenal to address with those out there

who say otherwise including many of those in the medical community. You

and I know that it is not rooted in psychological illness, although

many of the symptoms are psychological, but has very " real " roots from

physical injury. I know this is not the be all end all study to prove

the physical basis of MCS but for right now it is all we got. Little

baby steps are better than nothing at all.

Kim

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> well, doh.....

>

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Here is an interesting page but whos idea it was to use these colors is beyond

me. I will refrain from further links for now but a search of her name will find

many. It appears she is very active in the MCS feild and it looks like there is

lots of reading to do.

http://members.aol.com/DonationDrive/TestimonyTILT.html

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I knew you could do it! LOL

United States Vet <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote:

Sure, how bout the " hey you, that stinks, gives me a headache, gonna throw up,

now Im itchy and my visions blurry and I feel narcleptic syndrome "

On the subject, I have not had time to research this yet but there was a

T. Blevins, Ph.D fromm Suncrest Laboratories in Alabama at my parents

home today. I spoke with him breifley and he said that a lady named

has done alot of work on the MCS issue. Maybe she has been named here

before I don't know. I will do some looking in a bit but I thought Ide throw

that out for anyone interested.