Re: OPC's Pycnogenol/Joyce

[Guest guest]

I had to get off my OPC's a 6 days before hip replacement surgery, a couple days

after went right back on and my surgeon gave aspirin therarpy to keep from

clotting so I was in good shape...

 

 

From the article I mentioned: 

 

(((((Proanthocyanidin (OPC), a powerful antioxidant found in grape seeds, grape

skins, strawberries and French maritime pine bark, has anti-inflammatory

properties which have been shown to promote normal blood flow and thus benefit

the cardiovascular system.

OPC’s prevent " blood sludge " that can cause strokes and heart attacks. OPC’s

work like aspirin (only better and safer) to prevent abnormal blood clotting.

OPC’s may be a superior answer for those who need thinner blood (like people

with arrhythmias), as a safer alternative to coumadin.

________________________________

To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:30 AM

Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

 

I'm no scientist, but if one's blood is thick and clumpy one can be tired,

fatigued and sick...some of the recent friends  both in their 80-90's taking

Grape Seed Ex claim more energy.

 

I've compared Grape Seed Ex with a swimming pool sweep/cleaner..

 

I have an article on another site that claims those taking Coumidin could

replace it with Grape Seed Ex, but that would be with doc's blessings....most

conventional MD's don't push Grape Seed Extract....

 

Both these older friends talked to their pharmcists before going on G.S.E. and

they said " yes, it's a great antioxidant " ...

 

Another friend mentioned it to her rheumy and he said " sure I take it " ...

________________________________

From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:40 PM

Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

Joyce,

perfect.  have had trouble with thick blood for some time now.  could be a

reason i don't detox well.  will really give this a try.

wonder if the blood thinner quality if what helps the immune system and

feeling better.

barbara

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:44 AM, JOYCE MARTINO <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>

wrote:

> **

>

>

> Barbara, I've been taking these OPC's since 1995 and I'll die taking

> them....I've bought many, right now, my favorite is ActiVin 200mg Grape

> Seed Extract from vitacost...., if you can 200 mg two times per day with

> food if  you need to.  Now if you take a blood thinner, then caution.

>

> Give them a GOOD TRIAL if you end up taking them.

>

> Grape Seed cleans and thins the blood, gets rid of sticky clumpy blood.

> joyce

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:55 PM

> Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

>

> i think i will get some and try it.  i have several allergies, post nasal

> drip, even though i avoid allergic foods.  lately i'm doing a lot of

> coughing and getting up phlegm.  much has to do with the lyme and cos. this

> may help.

>

> where is the best product/price you know of?

>

> thanks

> barbara

>

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:17 PM, JOYCE MARTINO <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>

> wrote:

>

> > **

>

> >

> >

> > As good as Pycnogenol is, I've read that Grape Seed Ex is just as good,

> > maybe better.

> >

> > When I first started  with Pycnogenol back in 1995, we were at a lecture

> > on this supplement and told it " MAY " prevent cancer....I got on it right

> > away...first things to go were allergies and sinus issues...stayed on Pyc

> > for a year and then found Grape Seed Ex....now 16 yrs later I'm still

> > healthy....

> >

> > Just this narley spinal stenosis, all worse since hip replacement 20

> > months ago.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

> > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:54 PM

> > Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > have used the  pycnogenol  yrs ago and not for very long,  so didn't know

> > if it did some good.  have many things wrong, lyme, bart, babs, and

> several

> > other co's.  i understand it helps the immune system.

> >

> > i didn't know. g.s.e. was for the immune system.  will look up the

> > site/link you listed and learn something.  g.s.e. is indeed much cheaper.

> >

> > thanks

> > barbara

> >

> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:40 PM, JOYCE MARTINO

<mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > **

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Grape Seed Extract

> > >

> > > Here's a good site, very informative:  grapeseedextract.com

> > >

> > > Don't endorse the company, but like their info.

> > >

> > > Ridded me of allergy/sinus issues...and lots more stuff....joyce

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

> > > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:27 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Joyce,

> > >

> > > what is G.S.E.?

> > >

> > > barbara

> > >

> > > Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:14 PM, JOYCE MARTINO <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > > **

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Oh yes, yes, I took pyc for the first year in 1995, then switched to

> > > > G.S.E. since I found it less expensive and maybe even more

> > > > effective.....docs don't want to believe in something we found that

> > > > " works " ....I'm so much my own doctor....Use Dr. Google a lot.

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: Kore <mailto:koresun%40yahoo.com>

> > > > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:09 PM

> > > > Subject: Pycnogenol/Joyce

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Joyce,

> > > > I've been taking pycnogenol for years. Using it, I've reversed

> diabetic

> > > > retinopathy (even tho my eye doc doesn't believe pyc had anything to

> do

> > > > with the reversal).  Excellent stuff!

> > > > Dianne

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

A former co-worker of mine died of a clot-induced heart attack after

prostate surgery. He was 74, but was in perfect health, holding a 9th

degree black belt in Isshinryu style karate, being a teacher of that

style, was an avid motorcycle rider and had perfect weight and blood

pressure, etc. A strict eater of only healthy organic foods too. Just

goes to show that one never knows. I have read where that is a fairly

common cause of death for men in these times.

Gerry

>

> I had to get off my OPC's a 6 days before hip replacement surgery, a

> couple days after went right back on and my surgeon gave aspirin

> therarpy to keep from clotting so I was in good shape...

>

>

> >From the article I mentioned:

>

> (((((Proanthocyanidin (OPC), a powerful antioxidant found in grape

> seeds, grape skins, strawberries and French maritime pine bark, has

> anti-inflammatory properties which have been shown to promote normal

> blood flow and thus benefit the cardiovascular system.

>

> OPC’s prevent " blood sludge " that can cause strokes and heart attacks.

> OPC’s work like aspirin (only better and safer) to prevent abnormal

> blood clotting. OPC’s may be a superior answer for those who need

> thinner blood (like people with arrhythmias), as a safer alternative

> to coumadin.

>

> ________________________________

> From: JOYCE MARTINO <jam2006@... <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>>

> To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> "

> <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>>

> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:30 AM

> Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

>

>

> I'm no scientist, but if one's blood is thick and clumpy one can be

> tired, fatigued and sick...some of the recent friends both in their

> 80-90's taking Grape Seed Ex claim more energy.

>

> I've compared Grape Seed Ex with a swimming pool sweep/cleaner..

>

> I have an article on another site that claims those taking Coumidin

> could replace it with Grape Seed Ex, but that would be with doc's

> blessings....most conventional MD's don't push Grape Seed Extract....

>

> Both these older friends talked to their pharmcists before going on

> G.S.E. and they said " yes, it's a great antioxidant " ...

>

> Another friend mentioned it to her rheumy and he said " sure I take it " ...

>

> ________________________________

> From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

> To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:40 PM

> Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

>

> Joyce,

>

> perfect. have had trouble with thick blood for some time now. could be a

> reason i don't detox well. will really give this a try.

>

> wonder if the blood thinner quality if what helps the immune system and

> feeling better.

>

> barbara

>

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:44 AM, JOYCE MARTINO

> <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Barbara, I've been taking these OPC's since 1995 and I'll die taking

> > them....I've bought many, right now, my favorite is ActiVin 200mg Grape

> > Seed Extract from vitacost...., if you can 200 mg two times per day with

> > food if you need to. Now if you take a blood thinner, then caution.

> >

> > Give them a GOOD TRIAL if you end up taking them.

> >

> > Grape Seed cleans and thins the blood, gets rid of sticky clumpy blood.

> > joyce

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

> > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:55 PM

> > Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

> >

> > i think i will get some and try it. i have several allergies, post

> nasal

> > drip, even though i avoid allergic foods. lately i'm doing a lot of

> > coughing and getting up phlegm. much has to do with the lyme and

> cos. this

> > may help.

> >

> > where is the best product/price you know of?

> >

> > thanks

> > barbara

> >

> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:17 PM, JOYCE MARTINO

> <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > **

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > As good as Pycnogenol is, I've read that Grape Seed Ex is just as

> good,

> > > maybe better.

> > >

> > > When I first started with Pycnogenol back in 1995, we were at a

> lecture

> > > on this supplement and told it " MAY " prevent cancer....I got on it

> right

> > > away...first things to go were allergies and sinus issues...stayed

> on Pyc

> > > for a year and then found Grape Seed Ex....now 16 yrs later I'm still

> > > healthy....

> > >

> > > Just this narley spinal stenosis, all worse since hip replacement 20

> > > months ago.

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

> > > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:54 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > have used the pycnogenol yrs ago and not for very long, so

> didn't know

> > > if it did some good. have many things wrong, lyme, bart, babs, and

> > several

> > > other co's. i understand it helps the immune system.

> > >

> > > i didn't know. g.s.e. was for the immune system. will look up the

> > > site/link you listed and learn something. g.s.e. is indeed much

> cheaper.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > barbara

> > >

> > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:40 PM, JOYCE MARTINO

> <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > **

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Grape Seed Extract

> > > >

> > > > Here's a good site, very informative: grapeseedextract.com

> > > >

> > > > Don't endorse the company, but like their info.

> > > >

> > > > Ridded me of allergy/sinus issues...and lots more stuff....joyce

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: Barbara Pierce <mailto:gmaoceans%40gmail.com>

> > > > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:27 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: Pycnogenol/Joyce

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Joyce,

> > > >

> > > > what is G.S.E.?

> > > >

> > > > barbara

> > > >

> > > > Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:14 PM, JOYCE MARTINO

> <mailto:jam2006%40verizon.net>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > **

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh yes, yes, I took pyc for the first year in 1995, then

> switched to

> > > > > G.S.E. since I found it less expensive and maybe even more

> > > > > effective.....docs don't want to believe in something we found

> that

> > > > > " works " ....I'm so much my own doctor....Use Dr. Google a lot.

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > From: Kore <mailto:koresun%40yahoo.com>

> > > > > To: mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:09 PM

> > > > > Subject: Pycnogenol/Joyce

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Joyce,

> > > > > I've been taking pycnogenol for years. Using it, I've reversed

> > diabetic

> > > > > retinopathy (even tho my eye doc doesn't believe pyc had

> anything to

> > do

> > > > > with the reversal). Excellent stuff!

> > > > > Dianne

> > > > >

> > > > >