Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 , Ginny, and All, Thanks for bringing it to attention just how important and supportive the Boston City Council has been of our efforts to move the mold issue forward. We need more city councils that act as they have. With regard to the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine (ACOEM) and why Dr. Johanning would take the time to present a power point on the matter, I think it is important that our new members understand that THIS is where the heart of the deceit lays that keeps the physicians of America misinformed. THIS is why they not only do not know how to treat your illnesses, but do treat you with great distain for claiming mold has injured you. Prior to the year 2000, the doctors understood that they did not know everything about the matter...but they were learning. But in the year 2000, the defense in mold litigation began to systematically orchestrate the marketing to the medical community that serious mold illnesses are not plausible. In 2002, ACOEM cinched the deal by falsely claiming they were able to scientifically determine your illness is not plausible to be caused by the microbial poisons found in water damaged buildings. I think it is important that the members of understand this: While it is perfectly acceptable science to say we don't know everything about these illnesses, it is a BIG LIE to say it is scientifically established these illnesses are not plausible to occur from exposure to microbial toxins found in water damaged buildings. So how did a BIG LIE become public policy that has kept the doctors misinformed in an effort to save proximate causers from financial liability? In 2002, the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine (ACOEM) specifically brought into their organization, an newly retired Assistant Surgeon General of the CDC's National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) to write their mold position statement. He had NO RESEARCH BACKGROUND in mold toxicity, but had years of experience at setting public policy. He brought in his business associate toxicologist and an immunologist from UCLA. Both of these men had already been generating income as expert defense witnesses in mold litigation. By using ONLY toxicologic study that examine a single cellular model to falsely set a threshold level of purported unatainable levels for an indoor environment, they concluded a single type of inhaled mycotoxin within a WDB could never reach a level to cause illness. This conclusion was made while ignoring the amount of time people are exposed, ignoring there is more than one mycotoxin being inhaled, touched and digested and ignoring there are numerous types of microbial toxins - not just myco - found in WDB's. So, among other aspects scientifically incorrect, they intentionally used limited data to form a conclusion of implausibility for aspects not even addressed. They then took an acute exposure, mold study of rodents, supposed how much of this single type of mycotoxin a mold spore could have, and corrolated it out to a hypothetical human exposure. They did this while ignoring that there are multiple toxins - not just myco - that people are exposed to in water damaged buildings, ignoring that molds can produce more than one mycotoxin at a time, ignoring time consideration and chronic low dose exposures. And last but not least, completely ignoring a founding principle in the study of toxicology: While rodent study can be helpful in understanding human illness, RODENTS ARE NOT HUMANS. TOXICOLOGIC STUDIES THAT EXAMINE ANIMAL AND CELLULAR MODELS CANNOT BE USED BY THEMSELVES TO DETERMINE HUMAN HEALTH. Never the less, using only a flawed and myopic hypothesis, based solely on toxicologic " study " , the authors of the ACOEM Mold Statement concluded: " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose- response data in animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the inhalation route of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. " In reality, the calculations of the ACOEM Mold Statement authors scientifically conclude NOTHING as it relates to the plausibility of human poisoning from the various poisons found in water damaged buildings. It is pure smoke and mirrors. From there, ACOEM accepted it as their " scientific " position on the matter portraying it to be the understanding of thousands of knowledgeable physicians. Hard to believe this could occur. Even the overseer of the peer review process is a toxicologist, who had several complaints from member of ACOEM about the unscientific BIG LIE. So what. They were not interested in science. They were interested in serving their industry masters and to aid them by stopping the financial liability for mold induced illnesses. After that, the US Chamber of Commerce spun the BIG LIE even further in their mold statement done by the same ACOEM authors to conclude, “Thus the notion that ‘toxic mold’ is an insidious secret ‘killer’ as so many media reports and trial lawyers would claim is ‘Junk Science’ unsupported by actual scientific study.†They then used both of these documents together to " lobby " against the sick and to " educate judges " . (Those are not my words as to the intended purpose of the Chamber paper. They are the under oath words of the ACOEM authors.) The false science has made it's way into public policy thru various government documents at OSHA, CDC, NIOSH, EPA, etc. Some of the physicians of the Association of Occupational and Environmental Clinics (AOEC) use the ACOEM false concept of " not plausible..inhaled mycotoxin " BIG LIE to educate physicians while giving CME credits. They also use the Lees Haley Fake Bad Scale, which is skewed toward a finding of malingering. So it is a two prong process. ACOEM = not plausible. Lees Haley = malingering. Voila! Claim of illness and resultant liability denied. And....they are doing this with our tax dollars. AOEC is partially government funded. It's racketeering based on false science and while using our own tax dollars against us. They will try to tell you that their teachings are consistant with the Institute of Medicine, Damp Indoor Spaces Committee. But this is another BIG LIE. What they are teaching with our tax dollars is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the IOM Committee stated with regard to scientifically establishing plausibility or not of human poisoning from the microbial poisons found in WDB's. IOM Committee: IOM Executive Summary: “Toxicologic studies, which examine such responses using animal and cellular models, cannot be used by themselves to draw conclusions about human health effects.†IOM Chapter 4 Mycotoxins Summary: “Except for a few studies on cancer, toxicologic studies of mycotoxins are acute or short-term studies that use high exposure concentrations to reveal immediate effects in small populations of animals. Chronic studies that use lower exposure concentrations and approximate human exposure more closely have not been done except for a small number of cancer studies.†IOM Chapter 4 Mycotoxins Summary Considerations in Evaluation of Evidence “Most of the information reviewed in this chapter is derived from studies in vitro(that is studies in an artificial environment, such as a test tube or a culture medium) or animal studies. In vitro studies, as explained below, are not suitable for human risk assessment. Risk can be extrapolated from animal studies to human health effects only if chronic animal exposures have produced sufficient information to establish no-observed-adverse-effect levels (NOAELs) and lowest-observed-adverse-effect levels (LOAELs). Extrapolation of risk exposure from animal experiments must always take into account species differences between animals and humans, sensitivities of vulnerable human populations, and gaps in animal data.†And this BIG LIE on the part of ACOEM et.al is why those who have been poisoned by microbial poisons in WDB's can't get medical treatment for their illnesses. This is the BIG LIE that keeps the doctors intentionally misinformed based on known false science and for the purpose of limiting financial liability for stakeholder - insurers and employers - of moldy buildings. I have been researching the conflicts of interest in medicine over the mold issue for four years. If anyone wants me to explain this in more detail, I would be glad to do so. Sharon Kramer In a message dated 4/12/2008 11:13:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, MLMJ75@... writes: Hello everyone, I worked on the Boston City Council hearing in December of 2004. One of the reasons for the hearing was to update the Boston City Council and those who attended on what happened during Mycotic Awareness Week in DC in September of '04 and to garner support for Congressman Conyers' HR 1268, The US Toxic Mold Safety and Protection Act, also known as the Melina Bill. It was an amazing hearing with people traveling from California (representatives from Schoolmoldhelp.(representatives from Schoolmoldhelp.<WBR>org), Georg moderator, KC!) , Maine (our own Janet), North Carolina (Dr. Simone Sommer and her son Josh), a few people from DC, including Segal from Congressman Conyer's office and a representative from Sheetmetal Workers Union International)International)<WBR>, Connecticut, New York, Rhode Island and other states t exposure and illnesses, problems in getting diagnosed and treated for our illnesses as well as other topics related to mold. We had representatives from the Boston Teachers Union, including Ginny Lane who arranged for the use of the building), doctors, lawyers, private industry representatives and those sickened by mold in their places of work, schools and homes. The hearing was chaired by Boston City Councillor Chuck (an amazing man who has worked very hard on this issue for years) and Boston City Councillor Maura Hennigan (now Clerk of Suffolk Superior Court for Criminal Business) who filed the order for the hearing. A document the size of a phone book was distributed and entered into the record which contained countless testimonies from people across this country who had been harmed by mold exposure. Having been involved in all the hearings the Boston City Council has conducted over the years on the issue of mold exposure and illness, I have to say from my own personal experience as well as reading about and talking to people around the world whose health has been harmed by mold exposure, time and time again, the frustration by those sickened centered around their doctors not recognizing, diagnosing and treating mold illnesses and it wasn't any different at the hearing: RECOGNIZING, DIAGNOSING AND TREATING. At the 12.9.04 Boston City Council hearing, this particular problem was addressed by Dr. Johanning, specifically as it pertained to the detrimental effects the ACOEM Mold Guideline was having on the truth about mold illnesses. Others raised it in a less direct way but the bottom line was the same: Why can't our doctors help us? How can so many of us be sick yet our doctors don't seem to understand? How can so many of us be sick but the medical infrastructure doesn't seem to have a clue? I am sorry to say but it is all about money, just like lead paint, asbestos and cigarettes. People out there are protecting stakeholders to the detriment of the health of children in schools, workers in the workplace and residents in their homes. At subsequent hearings before the Massachusetts Legislature'At subse Committee on Public Health, the ACOEM paper was discussed and documents were presented to the committee backing up the " prudent man's " interpretation of the validity of these guidelines and the harmful ramifications on all us who have been made ill by mold exposure. And as you all must know by now, the Wall Street Journal (who had the same information) investigated the allegations and backed up common sense and exposed the conflicts of interest with some doctors who chose to take care of clients rather than patients. We also are grateful to Senator Kennedy to submitted a request to the GAO for an audit on this very serious health issue. We also await a hearing before congress. Money has to get out of medicine on this and so many other health threats. Whatever happened to " First, do no harm. " ? Ginny, you are absolutely right. Other states must take up the charge and address this issue on their own local and state levels. But rest assured, our elected officials on the federal level know about this and the apparent conflicts of interest. With all the hard work of many, we WILL get to the truth. Mulvey son **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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