Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 --- In mb12 valtrex , >> ,> > If I may be so bold, what are your intentions on this list? Do you have > a child you are trying to heal? I may be wrong, but you certainly do > not give the impression of 'genuine' in your posts. ===>In a "truth is stranger than fiction" moment, I can vouch for who is a parent of a child with Autism and is passionate if not sometimes, misdirected. It did occur to me in a tongue and cheek kind of way to accuse of being the Autism Diva, but really this kind of experience is nothing to laugh at although I admit to being highly amused at the beginning. I'm not angry at , I've had my share of experience with this kind of interaction, obviously, although I have never been at the heart of it. I could submit my birth certificate to , which doesn't have the name Camille on it, but does have my real name.......and it wouldn't make any difference to him. I shall forever remain to , the Autism Diva. It is fruitless to try to convince him otherwise. However, from a legal standpoint, this should cease as it is slanderous. From a personal perspective this could have been devastating to someone who was not as well known as I have been. Many thanks to those who vouched for my identity, Mandi, Cheryl and Maggie, who said many of the things I wanted to say but was too stunned to articulate them. If there were others, my apologies for my omission. I am sending a copy of this to Stan Kurtz and any further mention of me and Autism Diva should stop immediately or we'll have to figure out who you are . > > -Jenna (Here to heal my children)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: Best Jr Hi Jenna,I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw the nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, couldn't kill her to solve the problem ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with such statements.===> Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends who had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said their first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs uselesss by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady Shrink really hates my guts for doing that. ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===> People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva because they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you say.===> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: Best Jr Keep it up Diva, You may be fooling a few people who don't know your history like I do. ===>What history? If you have proof, bring it on , your best proof that I am the Autism Diva for all to see, please set it out for everyone, expose me. At this point, I really don't care. You and the other lunatics from Neuroinsanity will now have tell your bosses at Pharma that Dr Moulden has beaten you all to a pulp, your mission to obstruct us from curing our kids has failed and you'll now have play your devious tricks elsewhere. You should go away now before people you have conned learn the truth about you and try to find you in person. Your con game to abuse autistic children is over. >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Best Jr > > > > Hi Jenna,> I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly > after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw the > nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, couldn't > kill her to solve the problem> > ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with such statements.===>> > Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends who > had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said their > first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs uselesss > by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady Shrink > really hates my guts for doing that.> > ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===>> > > People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva because > they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. > > ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you say.===>> > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Really???? Isn't this over yet???? Cheryl~Check out my blog: http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com/ Keep it up Diva, You may be fooling a few people who don't know your history like I do. At this point, I really don't care. You and the other lunatics from Neuroinsanity will now have tell your bosses at Pharma that Dr Moulden has beaten you all to a pulp, your mission to obstruct us from curing our kids has failed and you'll now have play your devious tricks elsewhere. You should go away now before people you have conned learn the truth about you and try to find you in person. Your con game to abuse autistic children is over. ----- Original Message ----- From: Best Jr Hi Jenna, I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw the nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, couldn't kill her to solve the problem ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with such statements.===> Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends who had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said their first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs uselesss by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady Shrink really hates my guts for doing that. ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===> People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva because they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you say.===> ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 This is unwelcome on this board. Re: Re: to Best Jr ----- Original Message ----- From: Best Jr Keep it up Diva, You may be fooling a few people who don't know your history like I do. ===>What history? If you have proof, bring it on , your best proof that I am the Autism Diva for all to see, please set it out for everyone, expose me. At this point, I really don't care. You and the other lunatics from Neuroinsanity will now have tell your bosses at Pharma that Dr Moulden has beaten you all to a pulp, your mission to obstruct us from curing our kids has failed and you'll now have play your devious tricks elsewhere. You should go away now before people you have conned learn the truth about you and try to find you in person. Your con game to abuse autistic children is over. >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Best Jr > > > > Hi Jenna,> I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly > after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw the > nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, couldn't > kill her to solve the problem> > ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with such statements.===>> > Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends who > had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said their > first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs uselesss > by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady Shrink > really hates my guts for doing that.> > ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===>> > > People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva because > they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. > > ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you say.===>> > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: cher.lowrance Really???? Isn't this over yet???? ===>It won't stop until someone stops it. Trust me, after having many patients with delusions, I know. Cheryl ~Check out my blog: http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com/ Keep it up Diva, You may be fooling a few people who don't know your history like I do. At this point, I really don't care. You and the other lunatics from Neuroinsanity will now have tell your bosses at Pharma that Dr Moulden has beaten you all to a pulp, your mission to obstruct us from curing our kids has failed and you'll now have play your devious tricks elsewhere. You should go away now before people you have conned learn the truth about you and try to find you in person. Your con game to abuse autistic children is over. ----- Original Message ----- From: Best Jr Hi Jenna, I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw the nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, couldn't kill her to solve the problem ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with such statements.===> Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends who had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said their first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs uselesss by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady Shrink really hates my guts for doing that. ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===> People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva because they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you say.===> ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 nope This is sad, really!! 's been on here forever....where did come from?? Keep it up Diva, You may be fooling a few people who don't know your history like I do. At this point, I really don't care. You and the other lunatics from Neuroinsanity will now have tell your bosses at Pharma that Dr Moulden has beaten you all to a pulp, your mission to obstruct us from curing our kids has failed and you'll now have play your devious tricks elsewhere. You should go away now before people you have conned learn the truth about you and try to find you in person. Your con game to abuse autistic children is over. ----- Original Message ----- From: Best Jr Hi Jenna, I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw the nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, couldn't kill her to solve the problem ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with such statements.= ==> Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends who had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said their first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs uselesss by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady Shrink really hates my guts for doing that. ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===> People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva because they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you say.===> ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Apologies to ? I'm still holding judgement on the backburner...nope This is sad, really!!'s been on here forever....where did come from?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I made a new yahoo group just for this purpose. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StupidPosts/ Have fun 38 and Mom to threeTasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pieElijah 2.. ASD and beautiful Re: to Best Jr We are here for information and support. This is crazy. Please stop.> >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Best Jr > > > > > > > > Hi Jenna,> > I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly > > after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw > the > > nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, > couldn't > > kill her to solve the problem> > > > ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or > any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with > such statements.= ==>> > > > Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends > who > > had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said > their > > first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs > uselesss > > by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady > Shrink > > really hates my guts for doing that.> > > > ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===>> > > > > > People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva > because > > they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. > > > > ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, > paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you > say.===>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: amysmith_lasvegas I feel like I am reading a good vs. evil comic book.....or maybe watching an episode of Scooby Doo where we don't know who the culprits are until their masks are taken off at the end. Where are Fred, Daphney, Velma, Shaggy and Scooby when we need them?? ===>This IS my all time favorite, thanks for the laugh. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 LOL Re: to Best Jr We are here for information and support. This is crazy. Please stop.> >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Best Jr > > > > > > > > Hi Jenna,> > I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly > > after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw > the > > nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, > couldn't > > kill her to solve the problem> > > > ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or > any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with > such statements.= ==>> > > > Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends > who > > had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said > their > > first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs > uselesss > > by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady > Shrink > > really hates my guts for doing that.> > > > ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===>> > > > > > People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva > because > > they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. > > > > ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional, > paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you > say.===>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 What is her motivation for giving out bad information if she herself has an autistic child? Re: to Best Jr Debi, thanx for clarifying all this!!>> Jenna, I think all of this has now been settled, but for you> new-comers, a word about autismdiva. is correct about her so much> (not the ladyshrink thing, I know nothing & am completely out of that> one) as autismdiva apparently seeks to give as much misinformation as> possible regarding healing kids with autism. > > She (ad) is a blogger who has made so many false claims about the> Geiers it is not even funny, as well as other wonderful DANs. I don't> know where she gets her info or if she makes it all up, but it's very> sad when I meet a newly-dxed family and they tell me they have been> reading ad. It can take weeks/months/years to get them to then try> biomed and they are almost always heartbroken that they waited as long> as they did once they realize all the lies and attempts to sabotage> healing that they followed. > > So, while we may not like 's style, it does serve us all to be> aware of ad and be sure we understand what a liar she is. > > Again, none of this was directed toward ladyshrink, I know nothing of> her association, it was strictly toward the autismdiva blogger who> probably could be sued for all the lies she has told about so many> wonderful professionals if they had time to do it instead of trying to> help our kids. > > Debi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 She and her child both have autism. Her motivation is that their is nothing wrong with our kids. They are simply wired differently and nothing you can do will change that. The neurodiverse believe that they should be accepted as they are (which is true) and that any attempts to change the way they are is deplorable. They simply don't believe they have any health issues that may be causing their problems. While they all acknowledge they have problems like anxiety, ocd, tics, inability to socialize, etc, they don't think it needs to be fixed or that it even can be fixed. They are happy taking their antidepressants and antipsychotic drug cocktails and living with all the supports they can get. No biomedical issues are at the root of their problems, according to them.Cheryl What is her motivation for giving out bad information if she herself has an autistic child? Re: to Best Jr Debi, thanx for clarifying all this!!>> Jenna, I think all of this has now been settled, but for you> new-comers, a word about autismdiva. is correct about her so much> (not the ladyshrink thing, I know nothing & am completely out of that> one) as autismdiva apparently seeks to give as much misinformation as> possible regarding healing kids with autism. > > She (ad) is a blogger who has made so many false claims about the> Geiers it is not even funny, as well as other wonderful DANs. I don't> know where she gets her info or if she makes it all up, but it's very> sad when I meet a newly-dxed family and they tell me they have been> reading ad. It can take weeks/months/years to get them to then try> biomed and they are almost always heartbroken that they waited as long> as they did once they realize all the lies and attempts to sabotage> healing that they followed. > > So, while we may not like 's style, it does serve us all to be> aware of ad and be sure we understand what a liar she is. > > Again, none of this was directed toward ladyshrink, I know nothing of> her association, it was strictly toward the autismdiva blogger who> probably could be sued for all the lies she has told about so many> wonderful professionals if they had time to do it instead of trying to> help our kids. > > Debi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 So she thinks it's perfectly okay to be nonverbal, frustrated, aggressive toward others, self injurious and destructive then? Re: to Best Jr Debi, thanx for clarifying all this!!>> Jenna, I think all of this has now been settled, but for you> new-comers, a word about autismdiva. is correct about her so much> (not the ladyshrink thing, I know nothing & am completely out of that> one) as autismdiva apparently seeks to give as much misinformation as> possible regarding healing kids with autism. > > She (ad) is a blogger who has made so many false claims about the> Geiers it is not even funny, as well as other wonderful DANs. I don't> know where she gets her info or if she makes it all up, but it's very> sad when I meet a newly-dxed family and they tell me they have been> reading ad. It can take weeks/months/years to get them to then try> biomed and they are almost always heartbroken that they waited as long> as they did once they realize all the lies and attempts to sabotage> healing that they followed. > > So, while we may not like 's style, it does serve us all to be> aware of ad and be sure we understand what a liar she is. > > Again, none of this was directed toward ladyshrink, I know nothing of> her association, it was strictly toward the autismdiva blogger who> probably could be sued for all the lies she has told about so many> wonderful professionals if they had time to do it instead of trying to> help our kids. > > Debi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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