Re: Our 10-year old daughter has Hashimoto's

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hi

i was diagnosed at 13. and was a very picky eater since i was weaned.

flash forward 40 years now :/

i have since educated myself on both hashis and hypothyroid sure

and what 'adrenal fatigue Really means (it is about the entire stress system

with our brain/CNS as the 'head' of it ,, and High cortisol or low cortisol is

all caused by same problems

which brings me to Biochemistry

and how the body works at the cellular/molecular level

and GOod News!

there are things ; tests foods vits/mins that people should be doing (and not

doing based on your tests)

but regular doctors do not know about this

and even the " good thryoid doctors do not know the cellular/molecular AKA

biochemistry and EPIgenetics parts yet

so here is a laundry list

you will need to learn the basics so that you can find DoctorS to help you with

the parts

ALL thyroid hormones have to be sulfated (and estrogens etc also)

sulfation is a part of Methylation

Methylatin is THE metabolic enzyme pathway that 'turns on' our 'silenced genes'

including autoimmune/hashis genes etc.

so a list:

methylation

sulfation

EPIgenetics

methylating Genes such as MTHFR and CBS

-MACROnutrients and MICROnutrients (including the RIGHT/natural forms of the VIT

Bs that help 'run' the Methylation pathways "

and the entire 'stress'system gets turned UP if a person's methylation/sulfation

pathways are not working OPTIMALLY!

why?

cuz the brain/CNS understands the body is in 'survive mode VS 'thrive mode IF

mehtylation is not working optimally!

EPIgenetics= every thing you /we do or do not do helps affect the status of

methylation and the METHYALTION 'system' is what TURNS ON/ and TURNS OFF OUR

GENES - dna and rna!

these are NEWER fields of medicine

last 20 years have really snow balled

PROBLEM:

medical schools are not teaching these as " SPECIALTIES " yet

EX)

MOST doctors will test *(men's!) homocysteine now

(for heart disease purposes)

and if yours is in the NORMAL range?

they weill complement you ..

problem!:

Example)

i tested as LOW_NORmal on my homocystine.

my doctor complements me as a woman and a hypothryodi patinet

PROBLEM:

a year later i tested my CYSTEINE levels and they are LOW!

NOTE: methylation /sulfation directly affect the IMMUNE SYSTEMS and autoimmune

disease/genes

http://www.knowyourgenetics.com/The%20Methylation%20Pathway.html

http://www.knowyourgenetics.com/The%20Methylation%20Pathway_files/diagram-1.jpg

-carol

COMT Gene /version/ defines how fast your cells can 'metabolize the 'old stress

hormoens and excrete them...

(NOTE the picture/chart and look in lower right hand corner for the 'sulfation

pathway *(sulfite to sulfAte)

(NOTE: GROWTH PROBLEMS= CORTISOL *SALIVA TESTS as well as full thyroid and other

tests like growth hormoen)

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> We're new on this forum and want to share what's been going on with our

10-year daughter who was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. My wife

and I are hoping that we might be able to figure out what could be triggering

the auto-immune reaction in her thyroid gland and help our daughter's to get her

thyroid function back to normal.

>

> Our daughter has been generally healthy except for a few matters such as being

a very picky eater with a history of possible GI reflux as well as vitamin D

deficiency. She's also had sleep issues lately and was recently started on

melatonin by our pediatrician.

>

> Most notably though, she's been growth delayed and we've been seeing an

endocrinologist for several years who has tested her for various problems that

can cause growth delay but all of the tests have come back normal (up until

now).

>

> Last week, we were scheduled to see the endocrinologist and we had some blood

tests checked and this time her free T3 (958) was elevated although her free T4

(1.5) and THS (1.1) were normal. Her eosinophil count was also slightly

elevated.

>

> The endocrinologist said that her elevated free T3 was likely a lab error so

we rechecked her numbers two days later and her free T3 was up to 1358 and her

free T4 was now increased to 1.9. Her TSH had falled to 0.43. Thyroid

antibodies were checked and her thyroid peroxidase antibodies were very high at

greater than 600 IU/mL but her thyroglobuin antibodies, TSH receptor antibodies,

thyroid stimulating immunoglobins, gliadin antibodies, transglutaminase

antibodies, endomysial antibodies, and total IGA were all normal.

>

> Fortunately, our daughter had almost no symptoms outside of feeling her heart

beating fast at times and having intermittent diarrhea. I spoke at length with

the endocrinologist who told us that our daughter has Hashimoto's and she

recommended that we return in 2 weeks for repeat thyroid blood tests with the

hope that things would resolve by then. No treatment or changes were

recommended.

>

> My wife and I are, of course, concerned about our 10-year old's health. We've

spent the last few days reading as much as we could about Hashimoto's to learn

what we can do to help.

>

> In particular, we're tyring to figure out what may have triggered the

Hashimoto's and what could trigger future problems. The triggers that keep

coming up in the books we're reading are gluten and casein (from dairy) and

interestingly we were eating a ton of pizza the week before her thyroid was

found to be elevated.

>

> Our questions at this point are:

>

> 1. What can we do to help figure out what may be triggering her Hashimotos's?

> 2. What are the most common triggers for Hashimoto's?

> 3. Is it worth going gluten-free even though her gluten antibodies came back

negative on her blood tests?

> 4. Is it worth going casein-free? Are there blood tests to look at this?

> 5, Should we see an allergist?

> 6. Should we see a nutritionist?

> 7. Should we see a celiac specialist?

> 8. Is it possible that her thyroid issues could be related to her growth

problems even though prior TSH levels have been normal.

> 9. Is her elevated eosinophil count related to the thyroid problems?

> 10. Could the melatonin (that we started a few weeks ago) have triggered the

Hashimoto's?

>

> Any help that anyone can give us will be greatly appreciated. We are so

concerned about our daughter and want to help her as best we can.

>

> Thank you so much.

>

> &

>

[Guest guest]

Hello and -I also have a daughter with Hashimoto's Disease as well as Metabolic Syndrome. Mine will be 11 on the 16th and was diagnosed at 9. It has been very frustrating to find any help within the medical community. Finding a pediatric endocrinologist that would look into what triggered this disease rather than just treat the hypothyroidism has been impossible. I have done hours upon hours of research on my own at this point for all of her medical conditions. My daughter's test results had not been normal for the year and a half she was being treated with Levothyroxine. I finally decided from what I had read that I would remove gluten. Her TSH was normal the next time labs were run. I have read that the auto-immune response is that the body confuses the protein of gluten with the thyroid gland and each time gluten is ingested, the body attacks the thyroid. I have not removed casein, but have read the protein is very close to gluten and the body can also confuse that with the thyroid gland and attack. I decided to try gluten first. I also have a lot of other auto-immune disease in my family, so genetics also play a part.I am surprised that if a diagnosis of Hashimoto's has been given that no treatment was started. I had read that children with Hashimoto's can have stunted growth. My daughter has not seemed to have that happen. I have also read that there is a link between those with Hashimoto's and Celiac Disease. My daughter's antibody tests came back negative for that disease, but I do believe she is sensitive to it as am I. Gluten sensitivity is a hard thing to detect. The best test is to eliminate it and see how she feels/improves. When I went off gluten, I notified how much better I felt almost immediately.I have not found a nutritionist that really addressed the Hashimoto's Disease. Along with this disease, my daughter suffers from Metabolic Syndrome, which complicates things even more. She is on a gluten free/low carb diet. She has very little processed food. I don't give her gluten free "replacement food" very often as it is filled with a lot of junk. I have not ever seen anything that ties melatonin use to Hashimoto's. My daughter also takes melatonin at bedtime for another disorder that is neurological.I would be happy to pass on any information I have if you would find it helpful. Please let me know. I have often felt like I am the only parent dealing with these issues, so I understand your concern.I hope I have helped a little. Good luck to you and your daughter.Sent from my iPad

Hi everyone,

We're new on this forum and want to share what's been going on with our 10-year daughter who was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. My wife and I are hoping that we might be able to figure out what could be triggering the auto-immune reaction in her thyroid gland and help our daughter's to get her thyroid function back to normal.

Our daughter has been generally healthy except for a few matters such as being a very picky eater with a history of possible GI reflux as well as vitamin D deficiency. She's also had sleep issues lately and was recently started on melatonin by our pediatrician.

Most notably though, she's been growth delayed and we've been seeing an endocrinologist for several years who has tested her for various problems that can cause growth delay but all of the tests have come back normal (up until now).

Last week, we were scheduled to see the endocrinologist and we had some blood tests checked and this time her free T3 (958) was elevated although her free T4 (1.5) and THS (1.1) were normal. Her eosinophil count was also slightly elevated.

The endocrinologist said that her elevated free T3 was likely a lab error so we rechecked her numbers two days later and her free T3 was up to 1358 and her free T4 was now increased to 1.9. Her TSH had falled to 0.43. Thyroid antibodies were checked and her thyroid peroxidase antibodies were very high at greater than 600 IU/mL but her thyroglobuin antibodies, TSH receptor antibodies, thyroid stimulating immunoglobins, gliadin antibodies, transglutaminase antibodies, endomysial antibodies, and total IGA were all normal.

Fortunately, our daughter had almost no symptoms outside of feeling her heart beating fast at times and having intermittent diarrhea. I spoke at length with the endocrinologist who told us that our daughter has Hashimoto's and she recommended that we return in 2 weeks for repeat thyroid blood tests with the hope that things would resolve by then. No treatment or changes were recommended.

My wife and I are, of course, concerned about our 10-year old's health. We've spent the last few days reading as much as we could about Hashimoto's to learn what we can do to help.

In particular, we're tyring to figure out what may have triggered the Hashimoto's and what could trigger future problems. The triggers that keep coming up in the books we're reading are gluten and casein (from dairy) and interestingly we were eating a ton of pizza the week before her thyroid was found to be elevated.

Our questions at this point are:

1. What can we do to help figure out what may be triggering her Hashimotos's?

2. What are the most common triggers for Hashimoto's?

3. Is it worth going gluten-free even though her gluten antibodies came back negative on her blood tests?

4. Is it worth going casein-free? Are there blood tests to look at this?

5, Should we see an allergist?

6. Should we see a nutritionist?

7. Should we see a celiac specialist?

8. Is it possible that her thyroid issues could be related to her growth problems even though prior TSH levels have been normal.

9. Is her elevated eosinophil count related to the thyroid problems?

10. Could the melatonin (that we started a few weeks ago) have triggered the Hashimoto's?

Any help that anyone can give us will be greatly appreciated. We are so concerned about our daughter and want to help her as best we can.

Thank you so much.

&

=

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Hello, my name is Aurora. I was diagnost with Hashimoto's when I was 15 (I am now 17). My T4 levles were more elevated then your daughters and my family Doctor prescribed me a medicine called Levothyroxine. It took a while to get it the excact amount I need but once we figured it out (and as long as I don't forget to take it) I feel great. To answer your quastions though I would say the following:A1 I dont know a lot of what triggers anyone to have an a auto-immune desiese. My little brother was diagnost with Type1 diabetes when he was 2, so I know they run in the family.A2 Same answers as 1.A3 I have never went on a gluten free diet before. I have researched what helps with Hashimoto's and have not found it to be helpfull. A4 I'm verry sorry

but I don't know what casein is:(A5,6,7. I think at this point you and your wife should do what you think is right. If you are concerned that because of her having Hashimoto's there may be other problems then by all means, check.A8.9 I don't the answers for these QA10 I don't think the melatonin would have caused it at all. The human body already produce melatonin, it's just a chemical the mind releases to allow the body to think it time to sleep. Well, I hope this helped and good luck. To: Thyroiditis Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Our 10-year old daughter has Hashimoto's

Hi everyone,We're new on this forum and want to share what's been going on with our 10-year daughter who was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. My wife and I are hoping that we might be able to figure out what could be triggering the auto-immune reaction in her thyroid gland and help our daughter's to get her thyroid function back to normal.Our daughter has been generally healthy except for a few matters such as being a very picky eater with a history of possible GI reflux as well as vitamin D deficiency. She's also had sleep issues lately and was recently started on melatonin by our pediatrician.Most notably though, she's been growth delayed and we've been seeing an endocrinologist for several years who has tested her for various problems that can cause growth delay but all of the tests have come back normal (up until now). Last week, we were scheduled to see the endocrinologist and we had some blood

tests checked and this time her free T3 (958) was elevated although her free T4 (1.5) and THS (1.1) were normal. Her eosinophil count was also slightly elevated. The endocrinologist said that her elevated free T3 was likely a lab error so we rechecked her numbers two days later and her free T3 was up to 1358 and her free T4 was now increased to 1.9. Her TSH had falled to 0.43. Thyroid antibodies were checked and her thyroid peroxidase antibodies were very high at greater than 600 IU/mL but her thyroglobuin antibodies, TSH receptor antibodies, thyroid stimulating immunoglobins, gliadin antibodies, transglutaminase antibodies, endomysial antibodies, and total IGA were all normal. Fortunately, our daughter had almost no symptoms outside of feeling her heart beating fast at times and having intermittent diarrhea. I spoke at length with the endocrinologist who told us that our daughter has Hashimoto's and she recommended

that we return in 2 weeks for repeat thyroid blood tests with the hope that things would resolve by then. No treatment or changes were recommended. My wife and I are, of course, concerned about our 10-year old's health. We've spent the last few days reading as much as we could about Hashimoto's to learn what we can do to help. In particular, we're tyring to figure out what may have triggered the Hashimoto's and what could trigger future problems. The triggers that keep coming up in the books we're reading are gluten and casein (from dairy) and interestingly we were eating a ton of pizza the week before her thyroid was found to be elevated. Our questions at this point are:1. What can we do to help figure out what may be triggering her Hashimotos's?2. What are the most common triggers for Hashimoto's?3. Is it worth going gluten-free even though her gluten antibodies

came back negative on her blood tests?4. Is it worth going casein-free? Are there blood tests to look at this?5, Should we see an allergist?6. Should we see a nutritionist?7. Should we see a celiac specialist?8. Is it possible that her thyroid issues could be related to her growth problems even though prior TSH levels have been normal.9. Is her elevated eosinophil count related to the thyroid problems?10. Could the melatonin (that we started a few weeks ago) have triggered the Hashimoto's?Any help that anyone can give us will be greatly appreciated. We are so concerned about our daughter and want to help her as best we can.Thank you so much. & ------------------------------------*Note: Information is freely exchanged on this board based on patient experiences, and should not be considered a medical

recommendation.

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Hi Aurora,

It is good to hear from a teenager and I am glad you decided to comment. I think

your situation to quite different from the 10-year old girl, as we are all have

different issues to correct although some may overlap.

It is never a good thing to Rx a patient, especially a child, a thyroid

replacement T4 drug when s/he already has very elevated FT3 and probably over

the range high T4. A good doctor will look at all labs not just FT4. Although

we do NOT know the reference range that was used I suspect that the little

girl's FT4 of 1.9 is at the high end or above range.

My lab's reference ranges are .9-1.8 for FT4 and 2.3-4.2 for FT3. Hopefully,

Brain or can clear that up for us. Nonetheless, her TSH is decreasing

and her FT3 and FT4 are quickly increasing. Giving her T4 will only make things

worse.

I hope this is helpful,

~Bj

>

> Hello, my name is Aurora. I was diagnost with Hashimoto's when I was 15 (I am

now 17). My T4 levles were more elevated then your daughters and my family

Doctor prescribed me a medicine called Levothyroxine. It took a while to get it

the excact amount I need but once we figured it out (and as long as I don't

forget to take it) I feel great. To answer your quastions though I would say the

following:

> A1 I dont know a lot of what triggers anyone to have an a auto-immune desiese.

My little brother was diagnost with Type1 diabetes when he was 2, so I know they

run in the family.

> A2 Same answers as 1.

> A3 I have never went on a gluten free diet before. I have researched what

helps with Hashimoto's and have not found it to be helpfull.

> A4 I'm verry sorry but I don't know what casein is:(

> A5,6,7. I think at this point you and your wife should do what you think is

right. If you are concerned that because of her having Hashimoto's there may be

other problems then by all means, check.

> A8.9 I don't the answers for these Q

> A10 I don't think the melatonin would have caused it at all. The human body

already produce melatonin, it's just a chemical the mind releases to allow the

body to think it time to sleep.

>  

> Well, I hope this helped and good luck.

> ________________________________

>

>

> To: Thyroiditis

> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 2:02 PM

> Subject: Our 10-year old daughter has Hashimoto's

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> We're new on this forum and want to share what's been going on with our

10-year daughter who was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.  My wife

and I are hoping that we might be able to figure out what could be triggering

the auto-immune reaction in her thyroid gland and help our daughter's to get her

thyroid function back to normal.

>

> Our daughter has been generally healthy except for a few matters such as being

a very picky eater with a history of possible GI reflux as well as vitamin D

deficiency. She's also had sleep issues lately and was recently started on

melatonin by our pediatrician.

>

> Most notably though, she's been growth delayed and we've been seeing an

endocrinologist for several years who has tested her for various problems that

can cause growth delay but all of the tests have come back normal (up until

now). 

>

> Last week, we were scheduled to see the endocrinologist and we had some blood

tests checked and this time her free T3 (958) was elevated although her free T4

(1.5) and THS (1.1) were normal. Her eosinophil count was also slightly

elevated.

>

> The endocrinologist said that her elevated free T3 was likely a lab error so

we rechecked her numbers two days later and her free T3 was up to 1358 and her

free T4 was now increased to 1.9.  Her TSH had falled to 0.43. Thyroid

antibodies were checked and her thyroid peroxidase antibodies were very high at

greater than 600 IU/mL but her thyroglobuin antibodies, TSH receptor antibodies,

thyroid stimulating immunoglobins, gliadin antibodies, transglutaminase

antibodies, endomysial antibodies, and total IGA were all normal. 

>

> Fortunately, our daughter had almost no symptoms outside of feeling her heart

beating fast at times and having intermittent diarrhea.  I spoke at length with

the endocrinologist who told us that our daughter has Hashimoto's and she

recommended that we return in 2 weeks for repeat thyroid blood tests with the

hope that things would resolve by then.  No treatment or changes were

recommended. 

>

> My wife and I are, of course, concerned about our 10-year old's health.  We've

spent the last few days reading as much as we could about Hashimoto's to learn

what we can do to help.

>

> In particular, we're tyring to figure out what may have triggered the

Hashimoto's and what could trigger future problems.  The triggers that keep

coming up in the books we're reading are gluten and casein (from dairy) and

interestingly we were eating a ton of pizza the week before her thyroid was

found to be elevated. 

>

> Our questions at this point are:

>

> 1.  What can we do to help figure out what may be triggering her Hashimotos's?

> 2.  What are the most common triggers for Hashimoto's?

> 3.  Is it worth going gluten-free even though her gluten antibodies came back

negative on her blood tests?

> 4.  Is it worth going casein-free?  Are there blood tests to look at this?

> 5,  Should we see an allergist?

> 6.  Should we see a nutritionist?

> 7.  Should we see a celiac specialist?

> 8.  Is it possible that her thyroid issues could be related to her growth

problems even though prior TSH levels have been normal.

> 9.  Is her elevated eosinophil count related to the thyroid problems?

> 10. Could the melatonin (that we started a few weeks ago) have triggered the

Hashimoto's?

>

> Any help that anyone can give us will be greatly appreciated.  We are so

concerned about our daughter and want to help her as best we can.

>

> Thank you so much.

>

> &

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Hi Brain and ,

My daughter was Dx with Hashis and then Graves' at age 8. Her labs started out

like your daughter's labs. You daughter seems to be starting to show signs of

either Thyrotoxicosis or Graves'; they both can be seen in Hashi patients

although rare. The antiTPOabs and antiTGabs are common in both Hashis and

Graves' but most doctors and of course Endos just see these abs elevated and

automatically Dx Hashis.

At least the PedEndo tested further. Please post the *actual* lab results for

the TSHRabs (TSH Receptor Antibodies) labs meaning TRab aka TBII and TSI with

the reference ranges. It is *not* normal to have these antibodies present at any

level. These abs can be present and counteracting each other leading to a whole

lot of autoimmunity activity even within the (so-called) normal lab range.

If a wait and see approach is taken it's likely the PedEndo will suggest RAI

treatment of killing her thyroid and leaving her on thyroid meds that are often

hard to regulate for the rest of her life. This is what modern medicine does

without even a qualm or second though. Our children do not have a RAI deficiency

they have an impaired immune system that does not give-up with being

thyroid-less.

We clearly refused RAI and have made dietary and lifestyle changes improving my

daughter, me and my entire family's lives. (I have Hashis and have never had any

TSHRabs or been hypEr. All TSHRabs testing results were undetectable.) My other

daughter and my two sons also have elevated antiTPOabs, too, but no TSHRabs.

The best advice is to get rid of all food that has soy, corn and gluten in them,

meaning almost all processed products.

Some people say that they feel no different eliminating gluten although when

doing so all gluten must be eliminated and there are many foods with hidden

gluten. According to Dr Oz even an eighth of a teaspoon of hidden gluten can be

challenging. Gluten needs to be eliminated for six months to see antibody

results. My antiTPOabs results dropped extraordinarily from over 20,000 to

under 4,000; they are now at 87 last testing after 6-years gluten-free.

My family and I all tested negative via gluten blood testing but with a North

European ancestry eating-gluten-free has made a world of difference. Likewise,

the blood tests look for Celiac disease only and sometimes it's not picked-up

and gluten sensitivity or intolerances are usually never uncovered via those

tests.

All grains are starch, which floods the bloodstream elevating glucose and

causing blood sugar problems among many others. So, I did *not* stop there I

eliminated all grains, sugar, polyunsaturated (hydrogenated) oils, and all

refined foods. We eat a Paleo diet aka Caveman/woman diet. The Paleo diet helps

with all health issues not just thyroid.

I will try to find the info I have on Hashi and thyroid disease triggers etc and

post them next week.

I hope this is helpful,

~Bj

> >

> > Hello, my name is Aurora. I was diagnost with Hashimoto's when I was 15 (I

am now 17). My T4 levles were more elevated then your daughters and my family

Doctor prescribed me a medicine called Levothyroxine. It took a while to get it

the excact amount I need but once we figured it out (and as long as I don't

forget to take it) I feel great. To answer your quastions though I would say the

following:

> > A1 I dont know a lot of what triggers anyone to have an a auto-immune

desiese. My little brother was diagnost with Type1 diabetes when he was 2, so I

know they run in the family.

> > A2 Same answers as 1.

> > A3 I have never went on a gluten free diet before. I have researched what

helps with Hashimoto's and have not found it to be helpfull.

> > A4 I'm verry sorry but I don't know what casein is:(

> > A5,6,7. I think at this point you and your wife should do what you think is

right. If you are concerned that because of her having Hashimoto's there may be

other problems then by all means, check.

> > A8.9 I don't the answers for these Q

> > A10 I don't think the melatonin would have caused it at all. The human body

already produce melatonin, it's just a chemical the mind releases to allow the

body to think it time to sleep.

> >  

> > Well, I hope this helped and good luck.

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: eyeamawake <drmorrisonline@>

> > To: Thyroiditis

> > Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 2:02 PM

> > Subject: Our 10-year old daughter has Hashimoto's

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > We're new on this forum and want to share what's been going on with our

10-year daughter who was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.  My wife

and I are hoping that we might be able to figure out what could be triggering

the auto-immune reaction in her thyroid gland and help our daughter's to get her

thyroid function back to normal.

> >

> > Our daughter has been generally healthy except for a few matters such as

being a very picky eater with a history of possible GI reflux as well as vitamin

D deficiency. She's also had sleep issues lately and was recently started on

melatonin by our pediatrician.

> >

> > Most notably though, she's been growth delayed and we've been seeing an

endocrinologist for several years who has tested her for various problems that

can cause growth delay but all of the tests have come back normal (up until

now). 

> >

> > Last week, we were scheduled to see the endocrinologist and we had some

blood tests checked and this time her free T3 (958) was elevated although her

free T4 (1.5) and THS (1.1) were normal. Her eosinophil count was also slightly

elevated.

> >

> > The endocrinologist said that her elevated free T3 was likely a lab error so

we rechecked her numbers two days later and her free T3 was up to 1358 and her

free T4 was now increased to 1.9.  Her TSH had falled to 0.43. Thyroid

antibodies were checked and her thyroid peroxidase antibodies were very high at

greater than 600 IU/mL but her thyroglobuin antibodies, TSH receptor antibodies,

thyroid stimulating immunoglobins, gliadin antibodies, transglutaminase

antibodies, endomysial antibodies, and total IGA were all normal. 

> >

> > Fortunately, our daughter had almost no symptoms outside of feeling her

heart beating fast at times and having intermittent diarrhea.  I spoke at length

with the endocrinologist who told us that our daughter has Hashimoto's and she

recommended that we return in 2 weeks for repeat thyroid blood tests with the

hope that things would resolve by then.  No treatment or changes were

recommended. 

> >

> > My wife and I are, of course, concerned about our 10-year old's health. 

We've spent the last few days reading as much as we could about Hashimoto's to

learn what we can do to help.

> >

> > In particular, we're tyring to figure out what may have triggered the

Hashimoto's and what could trigger future problems.  The triggers that keep

coming up in the books we're reading are gluten and casein (from dairy) and

interestingly we were eating a ton of pizza the week before her thyroid was

found to be elevated. 

> >

> > Our questions at this point are:

> >

> > 1.  What can we do to help figure out what may be triggering her

Hashimotos's?

> > 2.  What are the most common triggers for Hashimoto's?

> > 3.  Is it worth going gluten-free even though her gluten antibodies came

back negative on her blood tests?

> > 4.  Is it worth going casein-free?  Are there blood tests to look at this?

> > 5,  Should we see an allergist?

> > 6.  Should we see a nutritionist?

> > 7.  Should we see a celiac specialist?

> > 8.  Is it possible that her thyroid issues could be related to her growth

problems even though prior TSH levels have been normal.

> > 9.  Is her elevated eosinophil count related to the thyroid problems?

> > 10. Could the melatonin (that we started a few weeks ago) have triggered the

Hashimoto's?

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> > Any help that anyone can give us will be greatly appreciated.  We are so

concerned about our daughter and want to help her as best we can.

> >

> > Thank you so much.

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> we do NOT know the reference range that was used

I quit paying attention to any lab ranges, and when speaking with a physican, I

use the " optimal " ranges by the National Thyroid Institute:

http://www.nationalthyroidinstitute.org/hashimotos-thyroiditis-treatment/

Anita Woods, CPM <><

www.nekansashomebirth.com

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i couldn't find my post appearing to add this 'connection

but the methylation and sulfation 'metabolic pathways'

must be up and running Optimally for us to metabolize our FOODS (all foods are

made up of chemicals including sulfur and PHenols and ETC.

Note:

our own thyroid hormones must be Sulfated

Estrogen in particular must be sulfated (hence Girls and women including around

Estrogen shifts of:

-puberty, preganancies, menopause

NOTE:

when the body cells can meet Optimal methylation and sulfation levels?

the brain/CNS turns up the stress response including cortisol or any of the

other HPA Axis hormones

Note:

sterss hormones affect SLEEP!

which is what sent your daughter to the DR in the first place right?

Note:

you will have to find an alterative DR who is interested in learning more about

testing/assessing/ treating

Methylation an Sulfation issues.

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > We're new on this forum and want to share what's been going on with our

10-year daughter who was just diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. My wife

and I are hoping that we might be able to figure out what could be triggering

the auto-immune reaction in her thyroid gland and help our daughter's to get her

thyroid function back to normal.

> >

> > Our daughter has been generally healthy except for a few matters such as

being a very picky eater with a history of possible GI reflux as well as vitamin

D deficiency. She's also had sleep issues lately and was recently started on

melatonin by our pediatrician.

> >

> > Most notably though, she's been growth delayed and we've been seeing an

endocrinologist for several years who has tested her for various problems that

can cause growth delay but all of the tests have come back normal (up until

now).

> >

> > Last week, we were scheduled to see the endocrinologist and we had some

blood tests checked and this time her free T3 (958) was elevated although her

free T4 (1.5) and THS (1.1) were normal. Her eosinophil count was also slightly

elevated.

> >

> > The endocrinologist said that her elevated free T3 was likely a lab error so

we rechecked her numbers two days later and her free T3 was up to 1358 and her

free T4 was now increased to 1.9. Her TSH had falled to 0.43. Thyroid

antibodies were checked and her thyroid peroxidase antibodies were very high at

greater than 600 IU/mL but her thyroglobuin antibodies, TSH receptor antibodies,

thyroid stimulating immunoglobins, gliadin antibodies, transglutaminase

antibodies, endomysial antibodies, and total IGA were all normal.

> >

> > Fortunately, our daughter had almost no symptoms outside of feeling her

heart beating fast at times and having intermittent diarrhea. I spoke at length

with the endocrinologist who told us that our daughter has Hashimoto's and she

recommended that we return in 2 weeks for repeat thyroid blood tests with the

hope that things would resolve by then. No treatment or changes were

recommended.

> >

> > My wife and I are, of course, concerned about our 10-year old's health.

We've spent the last few days reading as much as we could about Hashimoto's to

learn what we can do to help.

> >

> > In particular, we're tyring to figure out what may have triggered the

Hashimoto's and what could trigger future problems. The triggers that keep

coming up in the books we're reading are gluten and casein (from dairy) and

interestingly we were eating a ton of pizza the week before her thyroid was

found to be elevated.

> >

> > Our questions at this point are:

> >

> > 1. What can we do to help figure out what may be triggering her

Hashimotos's?

> > 2. What are the most common triggers for Hashimoto's?

> > 3. Is it worth going gluten-free even though her gluten antibodies came

back negative on her blood tests?

> > 4. Is it worth going casein-free? Are there blood tests to look at this?

> > 5, Should we see an allergist?

> > 6. Should we see a nutritionist?

> > 7. Should we see a celiac specialist?

> > 8. Is it possible that her thyroid issues could be related to her growth

problems even though prior TSH levels have been normal.

> > 9. Is her elevated eosinophil count related to the thyroid problems?

> > 10. Could the melatonin (that we started a few weeks ago) have triggered the

Hashimoto's?

> >

> > Any help that anyone can give us will be greatly appreciated. We are so

concerned about our daughter and want to help her as best we can.

> >

> > Thank you so much.

> >

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