Re: miralax and my neighbor

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,I'm new here and have been reading the "Beginner's file" - is this the best approach described below? Did everyone see immediate results? I'm so afraid my daughter's going to get constipated... what should I do first or should I do all of them at once? Also, can Kid Calm be purchased at Whole Foods or most local vitamin shops or only online?Thanks,SimonaFrom: mommtlc

To: miralax Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:47:58 PMSubject: Re: miralax and my neighbor

How about taking her some Kid Calm, Aloe Vera, Smooth Move tea,

mineral water a batch of GF magic brownies?

>

> Well, I just won the "bad neighbor" award. My neighbor called to

say her

> daughter was suffering terrible constipation, so she took her to

the doc.

> Doc gave her Miralax. When she told me that, I gasped out loud and,

without

> thinking, said, "You didn't give it to her, did you?!" Of course

the answer

> was yes. Still not thinking, I went into a quiet tirade of why that

was not

> a good idea and what she could've done instead. I feel so bad on

one hand

> that I wasn't asked what I thought or for advice and for my quick

reaction,

> yet on the other hand, my God! When will they stop giving this to

kids?! I

> mean, seriously, the kid had 3 days of constipation - what about

mineral

> oil?? They jump so quickly to a prescription! Well, now I have to

make

> amends with my neighbor. I think she likes chocolate chip cookies.

>

[Guest guest]

This list was just a few of the things that have helped all of our

kids. It was not meant to be a 'to do' list. Please post with what

you've tried, what's worked, what your child eats, behavior, issues,

etc. You'd be surprised what a few great minds can piece together

and give you suggestions. Remember to add comments like when the

problem started (after the DTaP shot for my son) and visible signs

like dark circles under eyes, eczema, etc.

LeeAnn

> >

> > Well, I just won the " bad neighbor " award. My neighbor called to

> say her

> > daughter was suffering terrible constipation, so she took her to

> the doc.

> > Doc gave her Miralax. When she told me that, I gasped out loud

and,

> without

> > thinking, said, " You didn't give it to her, did you?! " Of course

> the answer

> > was yes. Still not thinking, I went into a quiet tirade of why

that

> was not

> > a good idea and what she could've done instead. I feel so bad on

> one hand

> > that I wasn't asked what I thought or for advice and for my quick

> reaction,

> > yet on the other hand, my God! When will they stop giving this to

> kids?! I

> > mean, seriously, the kid had 3 days of constipation - what about

> mineral

> > oil?? They jump so quickly to a prescription! Well, now I have to

> make

> > amends with my neighbor. I think she likes chocolate chip cookies.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 5 and has had constipation issues since about 3. Interesting you mention the DTaP shot since that's probably the age she got it. I have tried Miralax and Pedia-Lax pills and flax oil/flax seeds (but she won't take it and notices it if used in food). Miralax and Pedia-Lax both work but I think the Miralax causes her stomach pain. That's how I found this group by trying to find side effects since I suspected the Miralax was hurting her tummy. My doctor has been no help really, she just recommended the Miralax. I know she needs to drink more liquids as well. I'm not even sure exactly what amount of liquids she needs per day (she weighs 39 lbs). She eats whole grains and fruits but is still constipated constantly. If I don't give her something she gets backed up and it's

hell. Visible signs... she does have dark circles and she is on the thin side.I really want to start something natural that will help her but I am very scared she will get backed up. It's terrible how much she suffers when that happens. I also mentioned to my pediatrician if she has some kind of blockage how would we know. She said that would not be the case since her constipation started at about 3 and she wasn't constipated as an infant.Thanks for any of your help,SimonaTo:

miralax Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:55:32 PMSubject: Re: miralax and my neighbor

This list was just a few of the things that have helped all of our

kids. It was not meant to be a 'to do' list. Please post with what

you've tried, what's worked, what your child eats, behavior, issues,

etc. You'd be surprised what a few great minds can piece together

and give you suggestions. Remember to add comments like when the

problem started (after the DTaP shot for my son) and visible signs

like dark circles under eyes, eczema, etc.

LeeAnn

> >

> > Well, I just won the "bad neighbor" award. My neighbor called to

> say her

> > daughter was suffering terrible constipation, so she took her to

> the doc.

> > Doc gave her Miralax. When she told me that, I gasped out loud

and,

> without

> > thinking, said, "You didn't give it to her, did you?!" Of course

> the answer

> > was yes. Still not thinking, I went into a quiet tirade of why

that

> was not

> > a good idea and what she could've done instead. I feel so bad on

> one hand

> > that I wasn't asked what I thought or for advice and for my quick

> reaction,

> > yet on the other hand, my God! When will they stop giving this to

> kids?! I

> > mean, seriously, the kid had 3 days of constipation - what about

> mineral

> > oil?? They jump so quickly to a prescription! Well, now I have to

> make

> > amends with my neighbor. I think she likes chocolate chip cookies.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here's what I would recommend:

Stop giving whole grains -- I know I sound like a wacko but what

happens is the GI tract slows down and then our kids seem to become

gluten intolerant. I don't know if it's because of having less of

the enzyme in their body to break down the protein or it has stayed

in the GI tract too long and now they are 'allergic' to it, but in

general, gluten tends to cause constipation. For a few weeks at

least, have your child get their carbs from sweet and reg potatoes,

rice crackers, vegetables (some kids have issues with corn), popcorn,

and a limited amount of rice. Go with grilled meats and fruit for

dessert. Sulphur vegies are best -- broccoli, cauliflower, etc

Eliminate dairy too. If you just can't take that complete jump --

then limit dairy to whole milk organic yogurt. (Same reason as

above -- casein protein intolerance)

Add Kid Calm- http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=5120 & at=0

Mix 1/2 tsp in a few tablespoons of hot water, add lemon juice,

stevia, honey or sugar and ice water to make 4 - 6 oz of lemonade.

Add a splash of cranberry juice (100%) if your daughter likes it.

Day 1 - give once a day

Day 2 - give twice a day

I also gave to my son as a warm fizzy lemon drink.

If no BM on day 2, administer a glycerin suppository. Keep up with

the Kid Calm 2 x per day - increase to 1 tsp per if tolerable for

taste. Ok to substitue with Natural Calm, the Vit C and zinc in the

Kid Calm helps to heal the gut and Vit C can loosen stools, but if

your child doesn't tolerate it for some reasonk Natural Calm will

work.

Add frequent epsom salt baths -- 1/2 cup or more to bath - soak for

20 min.

Water (add lemon and stevia if you must). My son (6) still needs

reminders to drink water. I send him to school with a camelbak and

he knows he's supposed to drink that empty during the school day.

http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?

categoryId=57506 & storeId=1 & catalogId=1 & langId=-1 & feat=sr & freeText=500%

20ml%20camelbak.

Someone posted a 'recipe' to soak flax in water and then pour off the

water and drink/us in recipe. I haven't tried this -- but it

wouldn't hurt!

Others have had luck with aloe vera - Trader Joes carries it. We

didn't, but it's worth a try.

Senna helps too -- just don't use it too much. When I was first

getting my son off of miralax I made this brownie recipe - GF brwonie

mix from Trader Joe's or

http://www.amazon.com/Pamelas-Chocolate-Brownie-16-Ounce-

Packages/dp/B000DZKKK2/

and the rest is in this thread

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miralax/message/2422

I gave him a little (less that 2 " x 2') square every few days (freeze

and warm in micro). It really helped to get him on a schedule. He

would typically have a brownie and then have a BM a few hours later.

I now (2 1/2 yrs post miralax) still have to watch things. We are

not 100% GFCF anymore, allowing a hamburger at times. He takes

Kirkman EnzymComplete with most meals and is generally no longer

contipated. I also swear by LiverLife -- it helps him clear acids

from his body and contains medicinal mushrooms to help the immune

system.

Hope this helps.

> > >

> > > Well, I just won the " bad neighbor " award. My neighbor called

to

> > say her

> > > daughter was suffering terrible constipation, so she took her

to

> > the doc.

> > > Doc gave her Miralax. When she told me that, I gasped out loud

> and,

> > without

> > > thinking, said, " You didn't give it to her, did you?! " Of

course

> > the answer

> > > was yes. Still not thinking, I went into a quiet tirade of why

> that

> > was not

> > > a good idea and what she could've done instead. I feel so bad

on

> > one hand

> > > that I wasn't asked what I thought or for advice and for my

quick

> > reaction,

> > > yet on the other hand, my God! When will they stop giving this

to

> > kids?! I

> > > mean, seriously, the kid had 3 days of constipation - what

about

> > mineral

> > > oil?? They jump so quickly to a prescription! Well, now I have

to

> > make

> > > amends with my neighbor. I think she likes chocolate chip

cookies.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Simona,

Regarding the comment the pediatrician made...My son (age 5)was recently

diagnosed with encopresis, had a blockage/mass--but had no problems with

constipation as an infant. I believe his problem started with his gradeual

change in diet (high in dairy, low in fiber) and also exacerbated by starting

Kindergarten this September.

Just a suggestion, but you may want to see a pediatric gastroenterologist. I am

not a big fan of Miralax (for all the side effect reasons) but I think the drs.

do have some other options.

Good luck--it is not a fun issue to deal with for sure...

Kathy

Re: miralax and my neighbor

This list was just a few of the things that have helped all of our

kids. It was not meant to be a 'to do' list. Please post with what

you've tried, what's worked, what your child eats, behavior, issues,

etc. You'd be surprised what a few great minds can piece together

and give you suggestions. Remember to add comments like when the

problem started (after the DTaP shot for my son) and visible signs

like dark circles under eyes, eczema, etc.

LeeAnn

> >

> > Well, I just won the " bad neighbor " award. My neighbor called to

> say her

> > daughter was suffering terrible constipation, so she took her to

> the doc.

> > Doc gave her Miralax. When she told me that, I gasped out loud

and,

> without

> > thinking, said, " You didn't give it to her, did you?! " Of course

> the answer

> > was yes. Still not thinking, I went into a quiet tirade of why

that

> was not

> > a good idea and what she could've done instead. I feel so bad on

> one hand

> > that I wasn't asked what I thought or for advice and for my quick

> reaction,

> > yet on the other hand, my God! When will they stop giving this to

> kids?! I

> > mean, seriously, the kid had 3 days of constipation - what about

> mineral

> > oil?? They jump so quickly to a prescription! Well, now I have to

> make

> > amends with my neighbor. I think she likes chocolate chip cookies.

> >

>