Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects

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Nothing affects me like even a small amount of wheat, barley or rye.

Occasionally too much coffee will give me diarrhea that's almost as bad, but I

don't get the gluten headache with it. I had temporary dairy intolerance with

milder symptoms but that went away two months after being gluten-free.

That said, I don't really know how gluten has affected my autoimmune disease. I

know there is a link but going gluten-free hasn't reduced my dosage of Levoxyl

so far.

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foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods

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ly, I don't " feel " the effects of gluten, but avoid it because of what I

have read here. Dairy gives me pimples on my neck and face and peanuts give me

sinus pain. I also react to cocoa, coffee, soy and tomato according to a food

reaction test.

Therese

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> For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other

foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods

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Just as long as coffee doesn't have gluten-like effects. Couldn't live without the java. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeedSender: Thyroiditis Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:55:06 -0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis Subject: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects ly, I don't " feel " the effects of gluten, but avoid it because of what I have read here. Dairy gives me pimples on my neck and face and peanuts give me sinus pain. I also react to cocoa, coffee, soy and tomato according to a food reaction test. Therese>> For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods have gluten-like affects on others.>

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Me too- Gluten and milk. For the first time since my diagnosis of hypothyroidism 4 years ago, I lost 2 pounds in one month's time (both weigh ins were on my doctor's scale) and the ONLY thing I have changed is going gluten and dairy free (dairy for the most part...still eating ice cream and a tiny bit of cheese...working on that!). I gained weight at the first diagnosis of this disease when I was put on synthroid. I actually gained 30 pounds and then when I switched to NDT, I stopped gaining, but I didn't loose... until now I am eating mostly meat, raw vegetables, and raw fruit and that's all!! So happy to be turning things around for my health! To: Thyroiditis From: morrisontheweb@...Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:06:18 +0000Subject: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects

For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods have gluten-like affects on others.

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Please visit the Cyrex Labs website....the coffee bean's molecule is on the cross-reference list. It's molecule is so similar to the cells/tissue of the thyroid gland that primed antibodies can't tell the difference. It is a problem...I have never experienced a conscious awareness that I had a problem with gluten....with Hashimoto's, why would anyone? We cannot "feel" or sense what is going on at the molecular level....only lab markers would indicate a problem. I use to enjoy all the wheat & other gluten-filled products one could possibly enjoy without any outward physical symptoms, no stomach or digestive issues whatsoever. Then, one day I'm tested and my TPO Ab's were out of control. I was also deficient in several vitamins/minerals (those necessary for thyroid function). I eliminated gluten immediately at the recommendation of my Ph.D compounding pharmacist (including lipstick/lipgloss containing gluten, etc) and 60 days later my Ab's were reduced by 75%....but this wasn't something I could "feel.". I will say that now that I'm totally gluten & dairy free, my joints don't ache & my skin/hair have noticeably improved. It does make me happy also to have my immune system under better control!Sent from my iPad Garrett

Just as long as coffee doesn't have gluten-like effects. Couldn't live without the java. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:55:06 -0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis

Subject: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects

ly, I don't "feel" the effects of gluten, but avoid it because of what I have read here. Dairy gives me pimples on my neck and face and peanuts give me sinus pain. I also react to cocoa, coffee, soy and tomato according to a food reaction test.

Therese

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Thanks so much for sharing that, .

I found this different point of view on coffee - that it's just a general

gastric irritant and acts as a laxative for many people, even those not

sensitive to gluten:

http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/Gluten-Free-Beverages/f/Is-Coffee-Gluten-Free.\

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Unless there is cross-contamination or flavors added.

Tea is also a mild laxative for me, not to the extent of coffee. Anyone else who

suffers from gluten-related gastric symptoms want to share their experience?

The same author of the article above has this to say about glutens in different

grains:

http://celiacdisease.about.com/b/2011/04/26/do-all-grains-have-gluten-yes-but-no\

t-that-kind.htm

For those who believe that gluten is a problem in all grains, please understand

I think this article is helpful so people can understand the controversy and can

make up their own minds. I don't doubt that all grains are a problem for some

people, personally I'm not convinced that is because of gluten though.

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My concern is that many grains have changed quite a bit recently - mostly wheat, corn, soy, canola, cottonseed. Check out 's videos on youtube or his book "Seeds of Destruction". With GMO's we are dealing with a problem which is far more prevalent than just gluten. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeedSender: Thyroiditis Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:55:39 -0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis Subject: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects Thanks so much for sharing that, .I found this different point of view on coffee - that it's just a general gastric irritant and acts as a laxative for many people, even those not sensitive to gluten:http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/Gluten-Free-Beverages/f/Is-Coffee-Gluten-Free.htmUnless there is cross-contamination or flavors added.Tea is also a mild laxative for me, not to the extent of coffee. Anyone else who suffers from gluten-related gastric symptoms want to share their experience?The same author of the article above has this to say about glutens in different grains:http://celiacdisease.about.com/b/2011/04/26/do-all-grains-have-gluten-yes-but-not-that-kind.htmFor those who believe that gluten is a problem in all grains, please understand I think this article is helpful so people can understand the controversy and can make up their own minds. I don't doubt that all grains are a problem for some people, personally I'm not convinced that is because of gluten though. ~> > >> > > For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods have gluten-like affects on others.> > >> > > >>

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I share the same concern. I will check out that video.

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Just heard that Professor Don Huber says that many GMO grains (esp corn and soy) alter the intestinal "good" bacteria making it more difficult to digest gluten and that's partly responsible for the gluten epidemic we're facing. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeedFrom: morrisontheweb@...Sender: Thyroiditis Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:00:04 +0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis Subject: Re: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects

My concern is that many grains have changed quite a bit recently - mostly wheat, corn, soy, canola, cottonseed. Check out 's videos on youtube or his book "Seeds of Destruction". With GMO's we are dealing with a problem which is far more prevalent than just gluten. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeedSender: Thyroiditis Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:55:39 -0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis Subject: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects Thanks so much for sharing that, .I found this different point of view on coffee - that it's just a general gastric irritant and acts as a laxative for many people, even those not sensitive to gluten:http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/Gluten-Free-Beverages/f/Is-Coffee-Gluten-Free.htmUnless there is cross-contamination or flavors added.Tea is also a mild laxative for me, not to the extent of coffee. Anyone else who suffers from gluten-related gastric symptoms want to share their experience?The same author of the article above has this to say about glutens in different grains:http://celiacdisease.about.com/b/2011/04/26/do-all-grains-have-gluten-yes-but-not-that-kind.htmFor those who believe that gluten is a problem in all grains, please understand I think this article is helpful so people can understand the controversy and can make up their own minds. I don't doubt that all grains are a problem for some people, personally I'm not convinced that is because of gluten though. ~> > >> > > For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods have gluten-like affects on others.> > >> > > >>

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He has many of his DVD's on youtube. Google his name and GMO. is an amazing courageous man. I believe his websites are healthiereating.org and seedsofdeception.com and responsible technology.org. I just ordered his new book Genetic Roulette which has gotten great reviews. He was also recenetly on the Dr Oz show - his appearance is online if you google it. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeedSender: Thyroiditis Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:06:34 -0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis Subject: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects I share the same concern. I will check out that video. > > > >> > > > For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods have gluten-like affects on others.> > > >> > > > > >> >>

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Interesting theory but I didn't think that gluten was difficult to digest - it's

just that antibodies attack it and the lining of our stomachs before we have a

chance to digest it? That's the way I understand it - an autoimmune disease,

like Hashi's.

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Dr Fasano from U. land has shown that gluten's effects are very complicated and involve immune and nonimmune toxicities. Most humans have some trouble breaking down some of the amino acid segments in gluten which our own gut bacteria is supposed to handle. In some, this leads to Celiac disease and an autoimmune attack on the intestine while in others this leads to only damage to the connections (tight junctions) between gut lining cells. This leads to increased permeability (leaky gut) which allows a lot of foreign matter to leave the gut and enter the bloodstream and trigger allergic and autoimmune processes in certain people. Google Dr Alessio Fasano who has published most of the scientific research on this. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeedSender: Thyroiditis Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:24:00 -0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis Subject: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects Interesting theory but I didn't think that gluten was difficult to digest - it's just that antibodies attack it and the lining of our stomachs before we have a chance to digest it? That's the way I understand it - an autoimmune disease, like Hashi's. > > > >> > > > For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods have gluten-like affects on others.> > > >> > > > > >> >>

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Thank you so much for sharing all of that. It sure is complicated and I suspect

there is much research yet to be done!

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Agree that this is all unbelievably complicated which is why the GMO/gluten thing has gone largely ignored by the media - most don't have the time or energy to try to understand it. I've spent the last month reading 100's of artciles and only now have some understanding of all this. Hopefully Dr Fasano and others will continue to research this area. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeedSender: Thyroiditis Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:49:20 -0000To: <Thyroiditis >ReplyTo: Thyroiditis Subject: Re: Foods That Have Gluten-like Effects Thank you so much for sharing all of that. It sure is complicated and I suspect there is much research yet to be done!> > > > >> > > > > For those of us whose autoimmune disease is affected by gluten, what other foods affect you similarly? For our family, it's milk. I wonder which foods have gluten-like affects on others.> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>