to Best Jr

[Guest guest]

,

If I may be so bold, what are your intentions on this list? Do you

have a child you are trying to heal? I may be wrong, but you certainly

do not give the impression of 'genuine' in your posts.

-Jenna (Here to heal my children)

[Guest guest]

Hi Jenna,

I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly

after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw the

nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it, couldn't

kill her to solve the problem and forgot about reading this list.

Then someone pointed out to me that Autism Diva was up to her usual

tricks here so I came in and exposed her, as I always do when I find

she has slithered out from under her rock.

My son is 12. I made arrangements to chelate him in 2001 but

couldn't afford to pay the DAN doctors bills. I didn't learn of Andy

Cutler's existence until 2003 and I began using his protocol in 2004.

My son is much better but a long way from cured. I now know he will be

cured by Dr Mouldon.

Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends who

had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said their

first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs uselesss

by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady Shrink

really hates my guts for doing that.

People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva because

they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse. You can google my name to

see how Diva and her pals have smeared me all over the internet. So,

my intention when I popped in here Sunday night was solely to expose

the Diva or, as I like to call her Autism Dingbat.

Since I'm here, and I have finished grilling Dr Moulden to make sure

he was 100% legitimate, I was really hoping I could enlist everyone's

support to mount an attack on Autism Speaks, take their money away from

them and give it to Dr Moulden so he can have the resources he needs to

help all of our kids. I think he deserves to become the wealthiest man

in the world for what he has discovered and he is such a good guy that

he refuses to make himself a fortune at our expense.

>

> ,

>

> If I may be so bold, what are your intentions on this list? Do you

have

> a child you are trying to heal? I may be wrong, but you certainly do

> not give the impression of 'genuine' in your posts.

>

> -Jenna (Here to heal my children)

>

[Guest guest]

Keep it up Diva, You may be fooling a few people who don't know your

history like I do. At this point, I really don't care. You and the

other lunatics from Neuroinsanity will now have tell your bosses at

Pharma that Dr Moulden has beaten you all to a pulp, your mission to

obstruct us from curing our kids has failed and you'll now have play

your devious tricks elsewhere.

You should go away now before people you have conned learn the

truth about you and try to find you in person. Your con game to

abuse autistic children is over.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Best Jr

>

>

>

> Hi Jenna,

> I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly

> after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw

the

> nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it,

couldn't

> kill her to solve the problem

>

> ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or

any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with

such statements.===>

>

> Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends

who

> had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said

their

> first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs

uselesss

> by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady

Shrink

> really hates my guts for doing that.

>

> ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===>

>

>

> People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva

because

> they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse.

>

> ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional,

paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you

say.===>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I feel like I am reading a good vs. evil comic book.....or maybe

watching an episode of Scooby Doo where we don't know who the culprits

are until their masks are taken off at the end.

Where are Fred, Daphney, Velma, Shaggy and Scooby when we need them??

>

> >

> > nope This is sad, really!!

> > 's been on here forever....where did come from??

>

[Guest guest]

We are here for information and support. This is crazy. Please stop.

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Best Jr

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Jenna,

> > I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12

shortly

> > after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and

threw

> the

> > nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it,

> couldn't

> > kill her to solve the problem

> >

> > ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list

or

> any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility

with

> such statements.===>

> >

> > Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her

friends

> who

> > had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said

> their

> > first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs

> uselesss

> > by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the

Lady

> Shrink

> > really hates my guts for doing that.

> >

> > ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for

you.===>

> >

> >

> > People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva

> because

> > they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse.

> >

> > ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of

delusional,

> paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what

you

> say.===>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just went to the new group and was disapointed that there were no

slanderous posts yet. I'd personally like to understand where this is

all coming from and what the hell is " autism diva " ? Please don't

answer here though....post it on the StupidPosts board.

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Best Jr

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Jenna,

> > > I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12

> shortly

> > > after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and

> threw

> > the

> > > nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it,

> > couldn't

> > > kill her to solve the problem

> > >

> > > ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list

> or

> > any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility

> with

> > such statements.= ==>

> > >

> > > Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her

> friends

> > who

> > > had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said

> > their

> > > first words in public.. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs

> > uselesss

> > > by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the

> Lady

> > Shrink

> > > really hates my guts for doing that.

> > >

> > > ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for

> you.===>

> > >

> > >

> > > People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva

> > because

> > > they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse.

> > >

> > > ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of

> delusional,

> > paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what

> you

> > say.===>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

-I could use a few Scooby snacks to be honest.

-- In mb12 valtrex , " amysmith_lasvegas "

wrote:

>

> I feel like I am reading a good vs. evil comic book.....or maybe

> watching an episode of Scooby Doo where we don't know who the culprits

> are until their masks are taken off at the end.

>

> Where are Fred, Daphney, Velma, Shaggy and Scooby when we need them??

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > nope This is sad, really!!

> > > 's been on here forever....where did come from??

> >

>

[Guest guest]

cool down , you are getting beyond ridiculous.

has been on this list and many others for years

natasa

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Best Jr

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Jenna,

> > I joined this list in 2005. I tried the nasal methyl B-12 shortly

> > after that and my wife thought it was bothering my kid and threw

> the

> > nasal spray out. So, I had a big fight with her about it,

> couldn't

> > kill her to solve the problem

> >

> > ===>This kind of talk is really not appropriate for this list or

> any other public viewing. You're not helping your credibility with

> such statements.===>

> >

> > Anyhow, I began exposing the fraud of Autism Diva and her friends

> who

> > had escaped from asylums in 2004 or 2005 as soon as they said

> their

> > first words in public. I made their spokesmodel, Baggs

> uselesss

> > by exposing her as a total fraud and I'm sure the Lady

> Shrink

> > really hates my guts for doing that.

> >

> > ===>I don't hate you , I feel nothing but empathy for you.===>

> >

> >

> > People who know me are 100% certain that is the Diva

> because

> > they know I'm an expert on the Neurodiverse.

> >

> > ===>Really, this is concerning to me that a bunch of delusional,

> paranoid people think I am someone I am not. Be careful what you

> say.===>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Debi, thanx for clarifying all this!!

>

> Jenna, I think all of this has now been settled, but for you

> new-comers, a word about autismdiva. is correct about her so

much

> (not the ladyshrink thing, I know nothing & am completely out of

that

> one) as autismdiva apparently seeks to give as much misinformation

as

> possible regarding healing kids with autism.

>

> She (ad) is a blogger who has made so many false claims about the

> Geiers it is not even funny, as well as other wonderful DANs. I

don't

> know where she gets her info or if she makes it all up, but it's

very

> sad when I meet a newly-dxed family and they tell me they have been

> reading ad. It can take weeks/months/years to get them to then try

> biomed and they are almost always heartbroken that they waited as

long

> as they did once they realize all the lies and attempts to sabotage

> healing that they followed.

>

> So, while we may not like 's style, it does serve us all to be

> aware of ad and be sure we understand what a liar she is.

>

> Again, none of this was directed toward ladyshrink, I know nothing

of

> her association, it was strictly toward the autismdiva blogger who

> probably could be sued for all the lies she has told about so many

> wonderful professionals if they had time to do it instead of trying

to

> help our kids.

>

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with what Cheryl said in regards to ND wanting acceptance of

people with autism as people. I agree with that sentiment. But I don't

think that desire to see those with autism be respected explains why

she makes up stuff. Like Dr. Geier. I use this example only because

he's treating my child. I had met him years prior when he came to our

state to lobby for low/no thimerosal infant shots. If you read what

she accuses him of, she will accuse him of giving medications without

proper proof, such as lab testing. She accuses him of giving kids

lupron just to get them in his studies when, in fact, I had my

daughter tested during a time he had no females and was quite

interested in my daughter participating.

Yet when I emailed him & told him the test results he immediately

declined, saying she did not meet the criteria. Now here was a mom who

was willing to consider it with a female, something he had wanted. If

he was just pulling kids to have them, why would my daughter not have

been the perfect guinea pig? She seems to have no proof of any of her

accusations but keeps on making stuff up for the clear stake of

turning parents away from therapy that could help their kids. Since

that time we have begun to see him, I asked about a couple of

treatments and he was uncomfortable supporting them for my daughter

because of a lack of tests proving she needed the treatments.

Dr. Geier is by far not the only one. She's trashed Dr. Wakefield,

and we all know what he's been through with no reason. I'm sure you

could do a google for any well-respected autism clinician and her name

& find her twisting/lying about them somehow, some way. I'm sure there

are others, I just quit reading her lies, I didn't wanna waste my time.

Debi

[Guest guest]

when mb12 first appeared she went around accusing DAN! doctors of

injecting children with cyanide!!

she 'somehow' confused cyanide with cynocobalamin (form of b12) and then

further 'confused' cyanocobalamin with methylcobalamin... when the

differences were pointed to her she just ignored her blunder and went on

to accuse dans of other things...

>

> I agree with what Cheryl said in regards to ND wanting acceptance of

> people with autism as people. I agree with that sentiment. But I don't

> think that desire to see those with autism be respected explains why

> she makes up stuff. Like Dr. Geier. I use this example only because

> he's treating my child. I had met him years prior when he came to our

> state to lobby for low/no thimerosal infant shots. If you read what

> she accuses him of, she will accuse him of giving medications without

> proper proof, such as lab testing. She accuses him of giving kids

> lupron just to get them in his studies when, in fact, I had my

> daughter tested during a time he had no females and was quite

> interested in my daughter participating.

>

> Yet when I emailed him & told him the test results he immediately

> declined, saying she did not meet the criteria. Now here was a mom who

> was willing to consider it with a female, something he had wanted. If

> he was just pulling kids to have them, why would my daughter not have

> been the perfect guinea pig? She seems to have no proof of any of her

> accusations but keeps on making stuff up for the clear stake of

> turning parents away from therapy that could help their kids. Since

> that time we have begun to see him, I asked about a couple of

> treatments and he was uncomfortable supporting them for my daughter

> because of a lack of tests proving she needed the treatments.

>

> Dr. Geier is by far not the only one. She's trashed Dr. Wakefield,

> and we all know what he's been through with no reason. I'm sure you

> could do a google for any well-respected autism clinician and her name

> & find her twisting/lying about them somehow, some way. I'm sure there

> are others, I just quit reading her lies, I didn't wanna waste my

time.

>

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, Autism Diva is vicious in her attacks of all things DAN,

including Bernie Rimland. When that little boy died during chelation

because he was given the wrong medication, she actually made a song

up mocking parents who do chelation with their kids, saying they are

reckless and negligent.

I saw her in person at a meeting earlier in the year, as she lives in

northern California. She is a real piece of work. And believe me,

from the looks of her, diva is the LAST thing anyone would call her.

Her main goal in life seems to be dicrediting all biomedical

interventions for autism. Her and a handful of others spend quite a

bit of time and effort in spreading misinformation on the subject.

All parents should be aware of her dangerous propaganda.

Sylvia

>

> I agree with what Cheryl said in regards to ND wanting acceptance of

> people with autism as people. I agree with that sentiment. But I

don't

> think that desire to see those with autism be respected explains why

> she makes up stuff. Like Dr. Geier. I use this example only because

> he's treating my child. I had met him years prior when he came to

our

> state to lobby for low/no thimerosal infant shots. If you read what

> she accuses him of, she will accuse him of giving medications

without

> proper proof, such as lab testing. She accuses him of giving kids

> lupron just to get them in his studies when, in fact, I had my

> daughter tested during a time he had no females and was quite

> interested in my daughter participating.

>

> Yet when I emailed him & told him the test results he immediately

> declined, saying she did not meet the criteria. Now here was a mom

who

> was willing to consider it with a female, something he had wanted.

If

> he was just pulling kids to have them, why would my daughter not

have

> been the perfect guinea pig? She seems to have no proof of any of

her

> accusations but keeps on making stuff up for the clear stake of

> turning parents away from therapy that could help their kids. Since

> that time we have begun to see him, I asked about a couple of

> treatments and he was uncomfortable supporting them for my daughter

> because of a lack of tests proving she needed the treatments.

>

> Dr. Geier is by far not the only one. She's trashed Dr. Wakefield,

> and we all know what he's been through with no reason. I'm sure you

> could do a google for any well-respected autism clinician and her

name

> & find her twisting/lying about them somehow, some way. I'm sure

there

> are others, I just quit reading her lies, I didn't wanna waste my

time.

>

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, she does.

natasa

> >

> > Jenna, I think all of this has now been settled, but for you

> > new-comers, a word about autismdiva. is correct about her

so

> much

> > (not the ladyshrink thing, I know nothing & am completely out

of

> that

> > one) as autismdiva apparently seeks to give as much

misinformation

> as

> > possible regarding healing kids with autism.

> >

> > She (ad) is a blogger who has made so many false claims about

the

> > Geiers it is not even funny, as well as other wonderful DANs.

I

> don't

> > know where she gets her info or if she makes it all up, but

it's

> very

> > sad when I meet a newly-dxed family and they tell me they have

been

> > reading ad. It can take weeks/months/years to get them to then

try

> > biomed and they are almost always heartbroken that they waited

as

> long

> > as they did once they realize all the lies and attempts to

sabotage

> > healing that they followed.

> >

> > So, while we may not like 's style, it does serve us all

to be

> > aware of ad and be sure we understand what a liar she is.

> >

> > Again, none of this was directed toward ladyshrink, I know

nothing

> of

> > her association, it was strictly toward the autismdiva blogger

who

> > probably could be sued for all the lies she has told about so

many

> > wonderful professionals if they had time to do it instead of

trying

> to

> > help our kids.

> >

> > Debi

> >

>