Re: HBOT, STEM CELLS & VASODILATION (STROKE)

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40-60 hours of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) at 2.0 ATA up-

regulates stem cell production 800%, according to a recent study by

Professor Thom, MD, Ph.D., at the University of Pennsylvania

School of Medicine.

Consequently, your child can use their _own_ stem cells, rather than

those of a foreign host. Also, for those in the USA, there is no need

to travel to Mexico, or another country to receive the benefit of stem

cell treatments.

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40-60 hours of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) at 2.0 ATA up-

regulates stem cell production 800%, according to a recent study by

Professor Thom, MD, Ph.D., at the University of Pennsylvania

School of Medicine.

Consequently, your child can use their _own_ stem cells, rather than

those of a foreign host. Also, for those in the USA, there is no need

to travel to Mexico, or another country to receive the benefit of stem

cell treatments.

--penumbra

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Penumbra -

I have not done much research into where in the USA that I can use my

child's stem cells (cord blood). Do you happen to know that. We are

on the HBOT path and have just completed our first 40 hard chamber

dives and am plannig to keep this as part of our protocol since I was

happy with our results.

I started down this path with because of the Duke study for CP (my

child was diagnosed w/ CP). However, I finally got a call from the

study nurse and she said my sample was very small (18cc) so, I'm

getting the feeling Dr. Kurtzberg might not accept him. This is still

something I want to try so, if you have information on who might do a

simple re-infusion here in the states - I would be very grateful.

Thank you for any assistance.

Laureen

Quoting A Shadow :

> 40-60 hours of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) at 2.0 ATA up-

> regulates stem cell production 800%, according to a recent study by

> Professor Thom, MD, Ph.D., at the University of Pennsylvania

> School of Medicine.

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> Consequently, your child can use their _own_ stem cells, rather than

> those of a foreign host. Also, for those in the USA, there is no need

> to travel to Mexico, or another country to receive the benefit of stem

> cell treatments.

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Hi Laureen,

Sorry, I don't have any knowledge in that area.

Perhaps someone else on the forum can help.

Good luck to you.

--p

> I have not done much research into where in the USA that I can use

> my child's stem cells (cord blood). Do you happen to know that.

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You will not find any Stem Cell therapy for ASD or any other disease unless it is controlled by Big Pharmas and done in specific studies through Universities like Duke... but the catch is they will only use you own cord blood, we are talking about DONOR STEM CELLS and this are practiced out of this country: China, Mexico (Cancun) and Costa Rica... this would be your best options... they have already been treating ASD with success, but now under the Stroke theory it is even more important, since the CD34s create angiogenesis (create new blood vessels) and specific capillaries in areas of strokes... inflammation triggered in this areas are like a magnet for this... so after infusions, the children will have a 6 month period to allow the Stem Cells to do their job...

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

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not aware of any places doing stem cell on autism here? do you know of one?

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Re: HBOT, STEM CELLS & VASODILATION (STROKE)

40-60 hours of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) at 2.0 ATA up-regulates stem cell production 800%, according to a recent study by Professor Thom, MD, Ph.D., at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. Consequently, your child can use their _own_ stem cells, rather than those of a foreign host. Also, for those in the USA, there is no need to travel to Mexico, or another country to receive the benefit of stem cell treatments.--penumbra>> Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy for the Treatment of Stroke>

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Laureen, I agree. I am talking about Allie's own cord blood, I still

cannot get Duke or anyone else to do it. A simple infusion as you

said. All we need is a pediatric oncologist willing to do it. My

understanding is at the moment it's perfectly legal as cord blood does

not have the same ruling as other blood products, so a ped oncologist

is only limited by desire, not legalities. As you say, I'm willing to

get any preliminary/post testing done, sign away any liabilities, etc.

Debi

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Debi -

If this Duke thing does not pan out for me, I do plan on putting

pressure on CBR since I have the transplant coordinators number in

order for her to help me find someone to do it. IMHO, this is going to

be our best be is to put pressure on the banks in order to grant us the

access for what we saved with them. If you banked at CBR, I will

certainly give you her name and number.

I've sent my feelers out awhile ago to some people who I know in the

medical community - just a if you hear anything please call me type

thing but, was still waiting on the Duke thing. Should Duke say no, I

plan to call everyone who I know in the medical community to help me.

I also plan to call the local companies who are doing the Stem Cell

transplants in Mexico and elsewhere. I am sure that I probably know

someone working at those companies - just a matter of contacting people

I used to work with/for.

I will start this campaign once I get the definitive from Duke and will

post anything that I learn when I start this process. I should be

granted the right to use my child's own blood - period - isn't this why

I saved it anyway?

Sorry, this one gets to me that I cannot readily do this easily - I

would do this tomorrow if I could.

Laureen

Quoting Debi :

> Laureen, I agree. I am talking about Allie's own cord blood, I still

> cannot get Duke or anyone else to do it. A simple infusion as you

> said. All we need is a pediatric oncologist willing to do it. My

> understanding is at the moment it's perfectly legal as cord blood does

> not have the same ruling as other blood products, so a ped oncologist

> is only limited by desire, not legalities. As you say, I'm willing to

> get any preliminary/post testing done, sign away any liabilities, etc.

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> Debi

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Hi Christel,

Sorry, I think my earlier post was not very clear.

40-60 HBOTs at 2 ATA will cause the amount of stem cells flowing

through your child's bloodstream to go up 800%. These stem cells

originate in your child's own bone marrow. Under the vascular

pressure of the treatment, these stem cells flow into the bloodstream.

This treatment does not require any needles, or infusion of foreign

stem cells.

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we banked our daughters at CRB as well to use with our son down the road..... so i would also be interested

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Re: Re: HBOT, STEM CELLS & VASODILATION (STROKE)

Debi -If this Duke thing does not pan out for me, I do plan on putting pressure on CBR since I have the transplant coordinators number in order for her to help me find someone to do it. IMHO, this is going to be our best be is to put pressure on the banks in order to grant us the access for what we saved with them. If you banked at CBR, I will certainly give you her name and number.I've sent my feelers out awhile ago to some people who I know in the medical community - just a if you hear anything please call me type thing but, was still waiting on the Duke thing. Should Duke say no, I plan to call everyone who I know in the medical community to help me. I also plan to call the local companies who are doing the Stem Cell transplants in Mexico and elsewhere. I am sure that I probably know someone working at those companies - just a matter of contacting people I used to work with/for.I will start this campaign once I get the definitive from Duke and will post anything that I learn when I start this process. I should be granted the right to use my child's own blood - period - isn't this why I saved it anyway?Sorry, this one gets to me that I cannot readily do this easily - I would do this tomorrow if I could.LaureenQuoting Debi <fightingautism>:> Laureen, I agree. I am talking about Allie's own cord blood, I still> cannot get Duke or anyone else to do it. A simple infusion as you> said. All we need is a pediatric oncologist willing to do it. My> understanding is at the moment it's perfectly legal as cord blood does> not have the same ruling as other blood products, so a ped oncologist> is only limited by desire, not legalities. As you say, I'm willing to> get any preliminary/post testing done, sign away any liabilities, etc.>> Debi>>>>

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yeah but it requires big bucks that I don't have either.....

oh and a machine, which I don't have either....

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Re: HBOT, STEM CELLS & VASODILATION (STROKE)

Hi Christel,Sorry, I think my earlier post was not very clear.40-60 HBOTs at 2 ATA will cause the amount of stem cells flowing through your child's bloodstream to go up 800%. These stem cells originate in your child's own bone marrow. Under the vascular pressure of the treatment, these stem cells flow into the bloodstream. This treatment does not require any needles, or infusion of foreign stem cells. --penumbraposts> >> > Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy for the Treatment of Stroke> >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1722 - Release Date: 10/13/2008 7:50 AM>

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We had our response from them already... THEY SAID NO!!!

They only will be using own cord blood on a few CP children, that they will chose and decide to treat...NO AUTISM, and no sibling or any type of DONOR STEM CELL... they want us to believe you need chemo therapy for this Donor procedure, but that is not so or true at all... this is a way Big Pharmas are trying to keep Stem Cell Therapy held back in the States!!!

But the fact is children are recovering much faster with Donor Stem cell out of this Country... it is a shame that we can't rely on our own Country for that, Oh well... not surprised!!! And a darn shame that the parents that put their money and thought in to banking their children's cord blood, are not allowed to use it, even though they need it!!!

Any biomedical therapy is not welcomed by our medical community, insurances and government!!! And Stem cell is considered a biomedical procedure too...

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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This is sooo true... HBOT at 2.0 ATA can increase Stem Cell (CD34s specially) and can help correct our children's vascular systems!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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Rent! We rented our soft HBOT, and paid 1/2 the price! Where in TX are you?

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My son has his own blood, has CP, and Duke is worried about his

small sample size. So, there's a shot there for him and I'm hoping

it will work for him.

BTW he also has Autism as well.

Luareen

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> We had our response from them already... THEY SAID NO!!!

> They only will be using own cord blood on a few CP children, that

they will chose and decide to treat...NO AUTISM, and no sibling or

any type of DONOR STEM CELL... they want us to believe you need

chemo therapy for this Donor procedure, but that is not so or true

at all... this is a way Big Pharmas are trying to keep Stem Cell

Therapy held back in the States!!!

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> But the fact is children are recovering much faster with Donor

Stem cell out of this Country... it is a shame that we can't rely on

our own Country for that, Oh well... not surprised!!! And a darn

shame that the parents that put their money and thought in to

banking their children's cord blood, are not allowed to use it, even

though they need it!!!

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> Any biomedical therapy is not welcomed by our medical community,

insurances and government!!! And Stem cell is considered a

biomedical procedure too....

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> http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

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> " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical.

Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all

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Thanks, a.

Actually, HBOT at lower pressures will also up-regulate systemic stem

cells. However, the Penna study was at 2.0 ATA.

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> This is sooo true... HBOT at 2.0 ATA can increase Stem Cell (CD34s

specially) and can help correct our children's vascular systems!!!

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> http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

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> " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical.

Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all

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me too!!

Re: Re: HBOT, STEM CELLS & VASODILATION (STROKE)

Debi -If this Duke thing does not pan out for me, I do plan on putting pressure on CBR since I have the transplant coordinators number in order for her to help me find someone to do it. IMHO, this is going to be our best be is to put pressure on the banks in order to grant us the access for what we saved with them. If you banked at CBR, I will certainly give you her name and number.I've sent my feelers out awhile ago to some people who I know in the medical community - just a if you hear anything please call me type thing but, was still waiting on the Duke thing. Should Duke say no, I plan to call everyone who I know in the medical community to help me. I also plan to call the local companies who are doing the Stem Cell transplants in Mexico and elsewhere. I am sure that I probably know someone working at those companies - just a matter of contacting people I used to work

with/for.I will start this campaign once I get the definitive from Duke and will post anything that I learn when I start this process. I should be granted the right to use my child's own blood - period - isn't this why I saved it anyway?Sorry, this one gets to me that I cannot readily do this easily - I would do this tomorrow if I could.LaureenQuoting Debi <fightingautism@ yahoo.com>:> Laureen, I agree. I am talking about Allie's own cord blood, I still> cannot get Duke or anyone else to do it. A simple infusion as you> said. All we need is a pediatric oncologist willing to do it. My> understanding is at the moment it's perfectly legal as cord blood does> not have the same ruling as other blood products, so a ped oncologist> is only limited

by desire, not legalities. As you say, I'm willing to> get any preliminary/ post testing done, sign away any liabilities, etc.>> Debi>>>>

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What we need...pretty much all we need is a pediatric oncologist. They

are the only trained physicians who understand how to process the

cells. They are the only type of doctor CBR or the other registries

will release the cord blood to. So in terms of what to do, we *have*

to find a pediatric oncologist willing to do it. Surely to goodness

there is some ped oncologist sympathetic enough to autism or with some

connection who would be willing to do this!!!!

So, for Thoughtful House or any other DAN! or autism clinician. We

need them to get a ped oncologist on board to do it. A ped gastro or

family practitioner cannot, but they may have a friend/colleague

willing to do it once explained how safe it is. That is a tiny part of

it, the safety issue, but using one's own cord blood is about the

safest you could do. No chemo prior to, no chance of rejection.

And, once we see if/when it helps, then it may reach a point that it

could open up to sibling donors, or even perfect match donors. But

it's gonna have to start with autoreinfusion, which is about the

safest thing that could be done, and there are those of us willing to

sign off on liability.

Debi

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Yes, that's who I am planning on targeting first. I have worked in

Biotech/Pharma R & D for years and there are many companies local to me

who are targeting new cancer drugs. Granted they do not do clinical

trials on children but, the oncologists that have worked with the

people that I know would know someone willing to at least listen (I

hope). It's going to take awhile, but I plan to start looking into

this. Wish me luck! And, of course, I will only be speaking about

autoreinfusion because that is what I am persuing. Laureen

Quoting Debi :

> What we need...pretty much all we need is a pediatric oncologist. They

> are the only trained physicians who understand how to process the

> cells. They are the only type of doctor CBR or the other registries

> will release the cord blood to. So in terms of what to do, we *have*

> to find a pediatric oncologist willing to do it. Surely to goodness

> there is some ped oncologist sympathetic enough to autism or with some

> connection who would be willing to do this!!!!

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> So, for Thoughtful House or any other DAN! or autism clinician. We

> need them to get a ped oncologist on board to do it. A ped gastro or

> family practitioner cannot, but they may have a friend/colleague

> willing to do it once explained how safe it is. That is a tiny part of

> it, the safety issue, but using one's own cord blood is about the

> safest you could do. No chemo prior to, no chance of rejection.

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> And, once we see if/when it helps, then it may reach a point that it

> could open up to sibling donors, or even perfect match donors. But

> it's gonna have to start with autoreinfusion, which is about the

> safest thing that could be done, and there are those of us willing to

> sign off on liability.

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> Debi

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I'm also in nursing school...don't know know I am counting down for my

oncology clinicals!!! Although I would be shocked & taken aback if

anyone from this neck of the woods ended up being the pioneer instead

of 10 yrs behind established parameters.

Debi in TN

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I'm in CA and hoping that because we did pass the Stem Cell research

proposition in this state that I *may* find someone interested through

my contacts locally. But, I will travel if necessary as well. Laureen

Quoting Debi :

> I'm also in nursing school...don't know know I am counting down for my

> oncology clinicals!!! Although I would be shocked & taken aback if

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Nooo... oncologists are trained to use stem cell only after bombarding your body with CHEMO and RADIATION (to destroy bone marrow)... they would not know how to treat your child at all!!! I know because I went through CANCER treatment and my oncologist had NO IDEA!!! He thought you had to first kill the child's immune system before you gave stem cells!!! And the stem cells had to be from the child's own body, he had no idea that there is DONOR STEM CELL!!! He was baffled!!!

It is kinda like asking a pediatrician to chelate your child or ask him or her if they thing vaccines cause autism... We know better than that!!!

Stem Cells in U.S.A. is so primitive, because there is no research being done without having Big Pharma's permition!!! Of course they will not allow stem cell to become main stream... it would be the end of their industry, since you cannot patent them!!! Jus like Vitamins and minerals, which is why they want to out law them in our Country!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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Gabby -

We are talking about autofinfusion of our kids own cells - no need to

wipe out the immune system to do this. We are not talking about Donor

cells at all. I'm not interested in that since I have my child's own

cells available to me.

Dr. Kurtzberg who is doing the cord blood study for CP is in the

department at Duke for Bone and Marrow Transplantation - that states to

me she's a pediatric oncologist. The autorinfusion that she is doing

in her study from what I was told, takes about 20 minutes and then you

are done. Not a big procedure if it's only 20 minutes.

Laureen

Quoting a DeVelbiss :

> Nooo... oncologists are trained to use  stem cell only after

> bombarding your body with CHEMO and RADIATION (to destroy bone

> marrow)... they would not know how to treat your child at all!!! I

> know because I went through CANCER treatment and my oncologist had NO

> IDEA!!! He thought you had to first kill the child's immune system

> before you gave stem cells!!! And the stem cells had to be from the

> child's own body, he had no idea that there is DONOR STEM CELL!!! He

> was baffled!!!

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> It is kinda like asking a pediatrician to chelate your child or ask

> him or her if they thing vaccines cause autism... We know better than

> that!!!

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> Stem Cells in U.S.A. is so primitive, because there is no research

> being done without having Big Pharma's permition!!! Of course they

> will not allow stem cell to become main stream... it would be the end

> of their industry, since you cannot patent them!!! Jus like Vitamins

> and minerals, which is why they want to out law them in

> our Country!!! 

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> Love, Gabby. :0)

> http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

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> " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even

> God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~

> Jerry Newport

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Yes that is correct ( it is a simple procedure) if you have your own cord blood banked... but they will not do sibling donor blood, or any kind... they say for Donor Cord blood stem cell infusion you need chemo (and this is just not true)... But what about the many parents that did not store their cord blood, are our children doomed?

.... and even if you have the cord blood... the point is: Is she going to do the infusion on your ASD child?!!! Or must you wait until they open a study for that?!!! I am talking about NOW... not 5 -10 years, my children can't wait that long... So what is their call?!!! Is she going to do this infusion on your child... since it is so simple?!!! Or wil you have to wait till they allow this?!!! That is what I am talking about... And an other parent was the one that suggested cunsulting a pediatric oncologist... which is why I mentioned it!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport