Re: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & Colmes

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OT: You know, after all the name calling, yelling and hate that is spewed on FOX, it surprises me that people still watch them enough to post a quote from that station. I scratch my head because you can send people text from earlier speeches on the candidates stances concerning Autism but no one wants to hear that. It is as if a small group of people want to do whatever they can to justify McCain/Palin's behavior and comments. A week ago, it was in the news that McCain canceled a meeting with McCarthy because the topic of Autism was too "controversial" (this from ), yet now, all of a sudden, they want to talk about Autism and help find "a cure". I think that it is irresponsible (or telling of their true concern) for them to only say they want to help find "a cure" when Autism is much more than that. I

would prefer they talk about funding for not only research but for families also, talk about IDEA, not only for NCLB when in public schools but for private enrollees also, mention that you will work on getting my child covered with her "preexisting condition" ...... something more specific. (To be fair, I have issues with Clinton talking about "a Cure" also.)

I called the McCain headquarters and questioned them about the comment after just reading the initial post in this group and was told that " McCarthy was incorrect and was mistaken." (This was from a staffer and not McCain/Palin themselves.) To me, sounded pretty clear when she spoke to the media.

Never once, since January, have I ever been able to get a comment from the McCain campaign concerning Autism and now, all of a sudden, they are on the Autism "bus". The only Republican candidates who cared enough to have a response and send information were Romney and Huckabee.

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Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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yicks was THAT a magor flame. how dare ANYONE say ANYONE is not special....many look at our kids and say that, out of ignorence....lets not do the same about a mom who choice NOT to abort a child KNOWING they had a speical need, THAT alone makes her special. they went with out insurence as a family which was talked about not to differen then many of our houses today. just because a mother works doesn't mean they don't love their child or isn't there for them, I am sure there are TONS of moms on THIS group that have jobs and still care about there kids.

tone it down a TON there!! ya know

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & Colmes

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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they actually had jenny there to meet with him, but it wasn't over AUTISM being controversial it was on vacciantions being contriversal, a very different things (perhaps not in the minds of us with damaged by vaccination kids) but I can see why he wouldn't want to step there, when you figure what % of kids are unvaccinated he would be killing himself to speak his mind, if you go back in records on his stance and statement on things, BEFORE the trail in the vaccination cases were won this last year he was asked a question specifically on autism and the court case with the red headed girl who won her case with autism being caused by vaccinations. he made a comment (and this was WAY before paylen was on the ticket yet) on I know alot of people have brushed off vaccinations being a cause to autism but something just doesn't make sence in that and needs to be looked into further. so it was talked about BEFORE paylen....WAY before. it was the DAY BEFORE the court case was set I believe and I think he was in texas if you want to look it up. I think THIS speaks volumes on where he stands on that, because if I remember correctly he was down in the polls at that time already as well...

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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We could probably go back and forth all day.

Ya know, I'm really tired of people speaking or mentioning Autism and then thinking they deserve a pass because of that. I am extremely familiar with McCain's comments in the past, I'm familiar with his putting his name on Bills created by others concerning Autism that are currently not funded. If the McCain/palin ticket would take steps to have advisors or members of their team who handle Autism questions/future policies that are apart of the package that are available for comments and questions, I would have more respect for them.

(scratching my head) Why say you talked to McCarthy about Vaccinations but not about Autism? This is totally opposite of what stated just two days ago when she said the meeting was canceled. To add, McCain needs to "step up" or "go there" concerning the Autism/vaccination link. It's not political suicide because others have done it.

I personally just don't understand why they couldn't say more when other candidates have, for example, "we not only need to research the vaccinations but we also need to find out what else is triggering Autism." Instead of calling people terrorist or insinuating that they hang with terrorists, instead of standing by while people at their rallies yell hate-filled epithats, curse out reporters and call an African-American cameraman a "Boy", why not discuss the issues and discuss Autism. If this is a cause that he claims has been behind for a long time, he should have alot to talk about.

I think right now, they will say anything to get a Vote (wink-wink) and I hope people aren't falling for it.

From: a DeVelbiss <gabrieladevelbiss@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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Well I guess we know who you're not voting for!

Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Is it obvious?)(smile)

In the beginning, for me, it was between 3 candidates who are so opposite of each other but I respected their confidence in their beliefs and their positions: , Huckabee, Obama.

From: a DeVelbiss <gabrieladevelbiss@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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, I agree with you, but it still didn't stop me from saying "no, please don't go there." when I read your email.

I think it's appropriate to mention politics when it directly relates to autism. But otherwise, I think we should leave our political and other opinions aside when we come here.

I'm here to learn about how to heal my children. I know you all are too. That's something that unites us and we all can agree on. Let's stick to what we have in common and stay friends. Our children will still need help after this election is over.

Kim

Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:18 PM

Why is it ok to give women the choice to kill their baby. Regardless of how it happens, is it fair to the baby that his/her rights are taken away to live. When they amended the constitution so that there would be no more slavery, they were giving rights back to all people. When put in effect Roe vs. Wade they took away right of millions of human rights and that is just plain wrong. I am not going to comment on this again. It's just someone had broght up choice and I had to put the other side out there. I dont want to get too political on this board I want to recover my son.> >> > yicks was THAT a magor flame. how dare ANYONE say ANYONE is not > special....many look at our kids and say that, out of > ignorence... .lets not do the same about a mom who choice NOT to abort > a child KNOWING they had a speical need, THAT alone makes her > special. they went with out insurence as a family which was talked > about not to differen then many of our houses today. just because a > mother works doesn't mean they don't love their child or isn't there > for them, I am sure there are TONS of moms on THIS group that have > jobs and still care about there kids.

> > > > tone it down a TON there!! ya know> > > > Recovering from Autism is a marathon> > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!> > Read more about it on my BLOGs at> > http://www.myspace. com/christelking> > http://foggyrock. com/MyPage/ recoveringwishes> > http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=677063169> > > > Re:MC

Cain & Palin support for Autism on > Hannity & Colmes> > > > > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had > intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original > proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... > which there is nothing special about her... she has money and > resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy > working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! > She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she > really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change > votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top > Obama's team playing the

minority card!!!> > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> ----------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM>

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I agree with you 100%!!!

Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & Colmes

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Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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Come on.. you have to agree that being Vice President of the United Sates of America and being a working mom are not quite the same. I don't think the VP job is exactly a 9-5 kind of position! I'll bet she hardly sees her kids now can you imagine if McCain keeled over and she became President? Say goodbye to mommy... for the next 4-8 years.

Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:34 PM

Totally agree Christel! We have a little girl at our ABA center whose DAD takes her to therapy and totes along her 8 month old little sister while MOM works all day. Does this mean this little girl's mom is a bad "special needs" parent? Who am I to tell them what is right for their family? Disagree and debate Palin's policies and politics all you want, but stop these outrageous personal attacks on her parenting. >> yicks was THAT a magor flame. how dare ANYONE say ANYONE is not special....many look at our kids and say that, out of ignorence... .lets not do the same about a mom who choice NOT to abort a child KNOWING they had a speical need, THAT alone makes her special. they went with out insurence as a family which was

talked about not to differen then many of our houses today. just because a mother works doesn't mean they don't love their child or isn't there for them, I am sure there are TONS of moms on THIS group that have jobs and still care about there kids. > > tone it down a TON there!! ya know> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!> Read more about it on my BLOGs at> http://www.myspace. com/christelking> http://foggyrock. com/MyPage/ recoveringwishes> http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=677063169> > Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & Colmes> > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before,

and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > Love, Gabby. :0)> http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: 10/9/2008 9:44

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do you think jenny McCarthy works 9-5, is SHE not effected by her childs dx? she has hired teachers to work with her son, does that make her less of a mom

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & Colmes> > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > Love, Gabby. :0)> http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: 10/9/2008 9:44 AM>

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they (jenny McCarthy and McCaine) were going to talk about autism AND vaccinations NOT just autism (as that is jenny's platform) they didn't want to tread on the vaccination bit as IT is to contraversial....according to JENNY"S own words, I watch her talk about that too. your not the only one watching all the coverage here now! really what other politicaian running for present has talked about autism, let alone autism and vaccinations.....waiting, waiting, oh NO ONE that is right,.....McCain has been the only one to even comment on it. (and in a possitive light no lesss)

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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oh and you and I sign that check each month when we pay taxes, we the people

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on > Hannity & Colmes> > > > > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had > intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original > proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... > which there is nothing special about her... she has money and > resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy > working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! > She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she > really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change > votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top > Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> ----------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM> >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: 10/9/2008 9:44 AM>

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no McCarthy works as an actress, but trying to make a difference USING that ground to help autism, Paylen is a governer working for her state but trying to use THAT plateform in running (or trying out for a job) to help autism. no different. McCarthy's acting is effecting our kids for autism, but her voice is louder because of it, same for paylin, she has used her media and spot light and PICKED our cause to stand up and use it for, she didn't HAVE to. she CHOOSE to. pharcutical companies advertize for the shows McCarthy has done in between to pay for their air time, any different??? doesn't mean she SUPPORTS them. who cares WHO makes the difference so long as they do, it's going to TAKE someone in government to MAKE some of those changes as YOU and I aren't going to be able to do that from here.

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on > Hannity & Colmes> > > > > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had > intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original > proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... > which there is nothing special about her... she has money and > resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy > working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! > She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she > really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change > votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top > Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> ----------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM> >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: 10/9/2008 9:44 AM>

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Oh, I know I'm not the only one that researches candidates, I would hope that everyone researches their candidate. But, it is telling from some of these comments that it is not being done. Also, I watch mainstream news, read blogs, etc just to see the videos,get a laugh, etc. I don't rely on them for my information. I was surprised but after volunteering, sitting in the audience at local panel debates, etc. my eyes have opened. There is so much that is going on in the political arena that we don't see by just looking at the news on TV.

And actually, the candidate who has spoken and advocated the most is Hillary Clinton. (I was surprised by this myself but I was proven wrong on this so I have to give her her props.)

All you have to do, is look at the Congressional records ( I would start with 2007 and work backwards) and find out who sponsored what bills, which are continuously funded and which have been forgotten about. To add, make sure you check where the money went; these bills will be sponsored but then all the money goes to NIH, CDC, etc. Parents of SPecial Needs children need relief!!

Shoot, I need a tax break for medical expenses and Autism treatment should fall under that.

From: a DeVelbiss <gabrieladevelbiss@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

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I agree, and if Obama had a special needs kid I'd wonder why he didn't want to take more of an active role in his upbringing as well.

Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 4:01 PM

They are the same to me. They are the same as any single high powered job, or low-wage shift work job. If she was a high powered attorney or heart surgeon, would you be screaming at her to quit her job and stay at home knitting booties? It's like we've all regressed back 60 years in time. It was, Rah Rah! Women in power! We are just like men! We are equal! Then, when a woman with children comes into the public eye, now it's "What a horrible mom! She should be at home with the kids!" Can't have it both ways. It's crazy... no one is complaining that Obama never sees his kids, he's been campaigning to be prez most of their lives- why isn't he a lousy Dad? How about "Bye Bye Daddy" ?? How many nights per week do you seriously think he is at home to read bedtime stories and tuck his two young daughters in bed? Why is this different? Oh, because he's a man. Welcome to 1954.Politics, yuck!

:-)> >> > yicks was THAT a magor flame. how dare ANYONE say ANYONE is not > special....many look at our kids and say that, out of > ignorence... .lets not do the same about a mom who choice NOT to

abort > a child KNOWING they had a speical need, THAT alone makes her > special. they went with out insurence as a family which was talked > about not to differen then many of our houses today. just because a > mother works doesn't mean they don't love their child or isn't there > for them, I am sure there are TONS of moms on THIS group that have > jobs and still care about there kids. > > > > tone it down a TON there!! ya know> > > > Recovering from Autism is a marathon> > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!> > Read more about it on my BLOGs at> > http://www.myspace. com/christelking> > http://foggyrock. com/MyPage/ recoveringwishes> > http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=677063169> > > > Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on > Hannity & Colmes> > > > > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had > intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original > proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... > which there is nothing special about her... she has money and > resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy > working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! > She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she > really does not

understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change > votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top > Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> ----------> > > > >

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so her child wasn't down syndrome IN the womb??? sure was special needs before hand...

meaning she CHOOSE to walk this road even WITH it's hard ship, that is WHY it's important in the conversation

we just got it via dumb luck, bad gentics meet environment, hers was the same just BEFORE hand....

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on > > Hannity & Colmes> > > > > > > > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had > > intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original > > proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs > mother"... > > which there is nothing special about her... she has money and > > resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy > > working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny > owner!!! > > She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so > she > > really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! > > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change > > votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, > and > > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top > > Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > > > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > > http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/> > > > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the > > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> --> > ----------> > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: > > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM> > >> >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: 10/9/2008 9:44 AM>

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WE sign their checks. They work for us. The Government didn't cause this hurt, people did. We all have a hand in it because it is our society. We are the ones who vote or don't. We are the ones who spend more time keeping up with the 's then keeping up with what is in our food, toys. We are the ones that expect someone else is taking care of it. I'm not blaming each of us, but as a whole we have to change how we view the powers that be. We are them. ( now, obviously people on these groups are doing something about it)

In 2001, I had my son. I read progressive magazines that talked about vaccine dangers. I considered the concept and them ignored it and did what my Doc said I should do. I ASSUMED someone was keeping tabs on it. Someone had done the research, someone, someone, someone. I never checked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not beating myself up, I just woke up and realized the Wizard of OZ is really just some man who isn't any smarter then me.

BUT, thank God there were people in the Autism community that were and never stopped fighting because now I can recover my child and keep my other children out of harms way.

Sorry for the rant

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our incomes...so she > really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change > votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top > Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------

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so then change what you don't like, run for office! but don't slam another mom who is doing what you COULD be doing to change things for our kids, who HAS and understand where we all stand being a speical needs mom

you want things to change, but you don't want to leave your home and your kid to do it, you can't have it both ways, someone has to make that choice to do it. she has,

government IS broken, i think EVERYONE agrees with that, but it's not going to change by leaving it, it's going to take someone working to do that. pharmacies to give LOTS of things, everyone running, so this doesn't mean anything other then they are a somebody

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Re:MC Cain & Palin support for > Autism on > > Hannity & Colmes> > > > > > > > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had > > intentions of doing so... it would have been on their > original > > proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special > needs mother"... > > which there is nothing special about her... she has money > and > > resources to have her child taken care off... she is too > busy > > working... in her case she is more of a special needs > nanny owner!!! > > She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our > incomes...so she > > really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 > cents!!! > > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to > change > > votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it > before, and > > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, > just to top > > Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > > > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > > > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which > is why the > > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> ------ -> > ----------> > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - > Release Date: > > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> ----------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1716 - Release Date: > 10/9/2008 9:44 AM> >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1717 - Release Date: 10/9/2008 4:56 PM>

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Here in NJ I was turned down for SSI and Medicaid. I was told I wasn't eligible because we had two vehicles. One is our family van-we are a family of six-two with autism. and the other is my husbands work truck which was almost reposessed a few days before I applied. She insisted that I was not eligible because we were not needy if we had two cars. I don't know which we were supposed to lose-the one I need to transport my kids or the one that got my husband to work! Income wise we are well below poverty level for our family size. But none of that was even looked at. They said there was nothing they could do for me. Luckily my husband started a new job and we will have insurance in about three months. We have not had any in about a year and a half and had gone without it for a while before that as well. I wish I could have afforded a lawyer to fight it. But every penny went to food and trying to hold onto o

ur house.

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This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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On paper, it says I make alot but after everything is said and done, I don't. I try hard to find ways to reduce my taxes but I still end up paying so much.

It was a good debate today but I need to sign off for awhile ..... I have a sinus headache that is kicking my behind and the Echinacea is just not working fast enough!!! (smile)

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From: a DeVelbiss <gabrieladevelbiss@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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On paper, it says I make alot but after everything is said and done, I don't. I try hard to find ways to reduce my taxes but I still end up paying so much.

It was a good debate today but I need to sign off for awhile ..... I have a sinus headache that is kicking my behind and the Echinacea is just not working fast enough!!! (smile)

Bye.

From: a DeVelbiss <gabrieladevelbiss@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:29 PM

This is just last minute string pulling... if they had intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs mother"... which there is nothing special about her... she has money and resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny owner!!! She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so she really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change votes, is as good as NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, and all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top Obama's team playing the minority card!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/

"I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport

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we did all ours on the phone so not sure how they could just pick and choose, we had ALOT of documentation we flooded them with, and NOTHING for assets, I think that helped

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We were turned down, too. We were told that my husband's meager 401kwas the reason. I explained to them that I could withdraw it & have itspent in a month easy on autism treatments, they said we needed to dothat first. I can sort of understand it with us on some level, Ishouldn't have been expecting the government to help until I hadnothing left to help, it's just that it was so minimal in the grandscheme of autism. Hopefully we can pay off everything once I'mfinished with school. But we are lucky, we did/do have some healthinsurance, just didn't pay for anything Allie needed at the time. I'm convinced a lot of people flat out lie to get some of theservices. I know way too many people better off than my fam who getthe works, and I know others worse off who get nothing. The only waythat happens is by lying. But I do also think sometimes the intakepeople pick & choose who they want to get services. Debi

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Christel,

I missed something in the different posts. Are you talking about getting something like Beckett? Dana and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 yearsCeliac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder

Subject: Re: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:11 PM

we did all ours on the phone so not sure how they could just pick and choose, we had ALOT of documentation we flooded them with, and NOTHING for assets, I think that helped

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We were turned down, too. We were told that my husband's meager 401kwas the reason. I explained to them that I could withdraw it & have itspent in a month easy on autism treatments, they said we needed to dothat first. I can sort of understand it with us on some level, Ishouldn't have been expecting the government to help until I hadnothing left to help, it's just that it was so minimal in the grandscheme of autism. Hopefully we can pay off everything once I'mfinished with school. But we are lucky, we did/do have some healthinsurance, just didn't pay for anything Allie needed at the time. I'm convinced a lot of people flat out lie to get some of theservices. I know way too many people better off than my fam who getthe works, and I know others worse off who get nothing. The only waythat happens is by lying. But I do also think sometimes the intakepeople pick & choose who they want to get

services. Debi

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it may be....we never had to go that rought. it was an automatic qualification with having SSI in both states we have lived in

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We were turned down, too. We were told that my husband's meager 401kwas the reason. I explained to them that I could withdraw it & have itspent in a month easy on autism treatments, they said we needed to dothat first. I can sort of understand it with us on some level, Ishouldn't have been expecting the government to help until I hadnothing left to help, it's just that it was so minimal in the grandscheme of autism. Hopefully we can pay off everything once I'mfinished with school. But we are lucky, we did/do have some healthinsurance, just didn't pay for anything Allie needed at the time. I'm convinced a lot of people flat out lie to get some of theservices. I know way too many people better off than my fam who getthe works, and I know others worse off who get nothing. The only waythat happens is by lying. But I do also think sometimes the intakepeople pick & choose who they want to get services. Debi

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Whatever. You don't know me. I'm not BETTER than anyone. I have watched my child regress into a child who sees no souls. Pailin... she is NOT like me. She chose to have a special needs child. Good for her. I didn't. I am at least honest when I say I did not choose this for me or my family, and especially for my son. She is NOT like US. Her experience with special needs has not really even begun. Some of the people posting are 10-15+ year veterans. Pailin does not compare. Let us tap into her future to see how she manages. I'm sorry she has a future of 'special needs'. None of us wanted that.

My point about her and her current status of running for VP... She not only has a Down Syndrome newborn baby, but a pregnant (oh is that to sacred to talk about?) 16 year old. Maybe she should "Focus on the Family" a little bit more. Obama is not tucking his kids into bed every night either, I know, but at least it is not his oldest child picking up the slack for him. They are politicians, and despite the Republicans joke, none of them are the Messiah.

Enough Already.

Subject: Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on Hannity & ColmesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 5:32 PM

That's exactly the point, you don't have any idea how "active" she is in any of her kids lives. None of us do about any of the candidates. I guess Obama is excused from being a good father because his kids are "normal." What a weird argument! I have no problems with all of these debates on autism policies and politics between all the candidates, in fact I rather enjoy them. I would just like the self-righteous, superior "I am a BETTER Special Needs Mom than she is!" posts to die a quick death. Enough of that junk.> > >> > > yicks was THAT a magor flame. how dare ANYONE say ANYONE is not > > special....many look at our kids and say that, out of > > ignorence... .lets not do the same about a mom who choice NOT to > abort > > a child KNOWING they had a speical need, THAT alone makes her > > special. they went with out insurence as a family which was talked > > about not to differen then many of our houses today. just because a > > mother works doesn't mean they don't love their child or isn't >

there > > for them, I am sure there are TONS of moms on THIS group that have > > jobs and still care about there kids. > > > > > > tone it down a TON there!! ya know> > > > > > Recovering from Autism is a marathon> > > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!> > > Read more about it on my BLOGs at> > > http://www.myspace. com/christelking> > > http://foggyrock. com/MyPage/ recoveringwishes> > > http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=677063169> > > > > > Re:MC Cain & Palin support for Autism on > > Hannity & Colmes> > > > > > > > > This is just last minute string pulling... if they had > > intentions of doing so... it would have been on their original > > proposals!!! Specially from Palling being a "special needs > mother"... > > which there is nothing special about her... she has money and > > resources to have her child taken care off... she is too busy > > working... in her case she is more of a special needs nanny > owner!!! > > She does not struggle like we do to stretch out our incomes...so > she > > really does not understand us at all!!! That is just my 2 cents!!! > > Anything any of the candidates throw in at last minute to change > > votes, is as good as NOT

GONNA HAPPEN!!! We have seen it before, > and > > all she is to this campaign is playing the WOMAN CARD, just to top > > Obama's team playing the minority card!!!> > > > > > > > > Love, Gabby. :0)> > > http://stemcellfora utism.blogspot. com/> > > > > > "I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely > > neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the > > planets all spin." ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > ----------> > > > > > > > > > > > No

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