Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 " It's not toxic " !?! What is going on with these people... I would like to see him live in a building filled with it for a few weeks and then say that. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 this is that defence expert doctor. maybe he needs a good dose to help him understand. --- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: > > You'll love what this " allergy expert " has to say about Stachy.... > No wonder people can't get the correct help. > > Allergy expert has advice for flood victims > PhysOrg* > > http://www.physorg.com/news133108318.html > > As if the emotional and financial impact of flood damage isn't bad > enough, floodwaters can also bring health problems. H. Wedner, > M.D., professor of medicine and chief of the Division of Allergy and > Immunology at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, > says after the water recedes, damp homes and businesses are fertile > grounds for mold growth, which can cause allergic reactions and > asthmatic symptoms in sensitive people. > > > " Mold loves water, " Wedner says. " When your building is flooded, > it's very difficult to dry it out quickly and completely, and that > allows mold to grow. Walls made of Sheetrock soak up water far above > the floodline, and mold can be hidden under wallpaper, carpet and > floorboards and in ceiling tiles, furniture and clothing. " > > Wedner is a Washington University allergy and asthma specialist at > -Jewish Hospital. He has conducted research investigating the > molds and other allergens present in homes following the 1993 flood > in the Midwestern United States. > > Molds (and mildew, a type of mold) are fungi, which reproduce by > releasing spores. Inhaling the spores causes allergic reactions in > some people. Symptoms of mold allergy include itchy, watery eyes; > itchy, runny nose; headaches above and below the eyes; itchy ears > and changes in hearing; itchy throat and palate; difficulty > breathing; coughing; and shortness of breath. Mold spores may also > trigger asthmatic reactions in asthma sufferers. > > If a doctor confirms that health symptoms stem from a reaction to > mold, medical treatments are effective: those can be > pharmacotherapy — which may include antihistamines or steroids, > given intranasally or orally — or if necessary, immunotherapy, often > called allergy shots, which allow your immune system to build up a > tolerance to the allergen. But Wedner emphasizes that the source of > the reaction, the mold itself, also has to be removed. > > For those who have to deal with a flooded building, Wedner has the > following recommendations: 1) dry it out quickly — mold will grow > almost immediately in wet conditions; 2) cool it down — mold likes > warmth as well as humidity; 3) remove wet materials — wet Sheetrock > can't be repaired and must be taken out; 4) clean anything that has > been wet — that includes clothing, which should be dry cleaned; 5) > throw away anything that can't be thoroughly cleaned — that favorite > couch might have to go; 6) hire a professional to clean affected > areas of the building with appropriate materials — often a solution > of 10 percent bleach is used. > > > In addition to allergic reactions, mold has other negative effects. > The organisms release substances, volatile organic compounds or > VOCs, that people can smell even at low levels. The musty odor is > disagreeable and can make a person react at an emotional level. " If > you feel sick when you smell mold, make sure what's making you sick > is the mold and not the emotions associated with the smell, " Wedner > says. > > Mold can also damage a building structurally. It releases enzymes to > breakdown cellulose, a major component of wood. > > Wedner indicates that although molds release natural toxins, called > mycotoxins, these don't cause problems to people who live in moldy > houses because the toxins don't diffuse into the air. The only way > to be exposed to them is to swallow them. > > Recently, a mold called Stachybotrys, a greenish-black, slimy mold > found on wood or paper that has been wet for several days, has > gotten a lot of attention. Some claim Stachybotrys is the cause of > sick building syndrome, in which people occupying a building have a > variety of symptoms such as headaches; eye, nose and throat > irritation; dizziness; fatigue and breathing problems. But Wedner > says Stachybotrys itself has little to no affect on > health. " Stachybotrys is a mold that needs a lot of water, " he > says. " So it's a sign that there has been a lot of water in the > building. But it's not toxic, and people generally aren't allergic > to it. " > > In addition to Stachybotrys, flooded homes will also foster molds > that require less water, such as Aspergillus and Penicillium — bread > and cheese molds and common components of mildew. These molds and > others like them are the source of allergic reactions in sensitive > individuals. > > Wedner is currently studying the role of fungi and fungal allergens > in asthma, with particular emphasis on the role of fungi in the > inner-city setting. The data demonstrates the marked prevalence of > fungi in many homes in the St. Louis area and points out the > importance of fungal allergens in asthma and allergic rhinitis. With > Anupma Dixit, Ph.D., assistant professor of community health in the > Division of Environmental and Occupational Health at Saint Louis > University School of Public Health, Wedner is also continuing to > study the health effects of home flooding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 This is why an Infectious Disease doctor I went to thinks I am allergic to mold and all I have is an allergy but I'm not allergic to mold, I've been tested twice already. I know the difference between being poisoned and an allergic reaction, so why don't these doctors know the difference? I think people like Wedner are idiots! Dana --- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: > > You'll love what this " allergy expert " has to say about Stachy.... > No wonder people can't get the correct help. > > Allergy expert has advice for flood victims > PhysOrg* > > http://www.physorg.com/news133108318.html > Wedner indicates that although molds release natural toxins, called > mycotoxins, these don't cause problems to people who live in moldy > houses because the toxins don't diffuse into the air. The only way > to be exposed to them is to swallow them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I posted this on black mold tox board. He needs to be recieving emails from angry people every hour and they should include some more recent information for him. He must not bother to read anything at ALL, at least not about the subject he chose to enlighten us all on. Especially at this moment when there is flooding going on and he is really advertising outright to be an expert witness for the defense. --- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: > > You'll love what this " allergy expert " has to say about Stachy.... > No wonder people can't get the correct help. > > Allergy expert has advice for flood victims > PhysOrg* > > http://www.physorg.com/news133108318.html > > As if the emotional and financial impact of flood damage isn't bad > enough, floodwaters can also bring health problems. H. Wedner, > M.D., professor of medicine and chief of the Division of Allergy and > Immunology at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, > says after the water recedes, damp homes and businesses are fertile > grounds for mold growth, which can cause allergic reactions and > asthmatic symptoms in sensitive people. > > > " Mold loves water, " Wedner says. " When your building is flooded, > it's very difficult to dry it out quickly and completely, and that > allows mold to grow. Walls made of Sheetrock soak up water far above > the floodline, and mold can be hidden under wallpaper, carpet and > floorboards and in ceiling tiles, furniture and clothing. " > > Wedner is a Washington University allergy and asthma specialist at > -Jewish Hospital. He has conducted research investigating the > molds and other allergens present in homes following the 1993 flood > in the Midwestern United States. > > Molds (and mildew, a type of mold) are fungi, which reproduce by > releasing spores. Inhaling the spores causes allergic reactions in > some people. Symptoms of mold allergy include itchy, watery eyes; > itchy, runny nose; headaches above and below the eyes; itchy ears > and changes in hearing; itchy throat and palate; difficulty > breathing; coughing; and shortness of breath. Mold spores may also > trigger asthmatic reactions in asthma sufferers. > > If a doctor confirms that health symptoms stem from a reaction to > mold, medical treatments are effective: those can be > pharmacotherapy — which may include antihistamines or steroids, > given intranasally or orally — or if necessary, immunotherapy, often > called allergy shots, which allow your immune system to build up a > tolerance to the allergen. But Wedner emphasizes that the source of > the reaction, the mold itself, also has to be removed. > > For those who have to deal with a flooded building, Wedner has the > following recommendations: 1) dry it out quickly — mold will grow > almost immediately in wet conditions; 2) cool it down — mold likes > warmth as well as humidity; 3) remove wet materials — wet Sheetrock > can't be repaired and must be taken out; 4) clean anything that has > been wet — that includes clothing, which should be dry cleaned; 5) > throw away anything that can't be thoroughly cleaned — that favorite > couch might have to go; 6) hire a professional to clean affected > areas of the building with appropriate materials — often a solution > of 10 percent bleach is used. > > > In addition to allergic reactions, mold has other negative effects. > The organisms release substances, volatile organic compounds or > VOCs, that people can smell even at low levels. The musty odor is > disagreeable and can make a person react at an emotional level. " If > you feel sick when you smell mold, make sure what's making you sick > is the mold and not the emotions associated with the smell, " Wedner > says. > > Mold can also damage a building structurally. It releases enzymes to > breakdown cellulose, a major component of wood. > > Wedner indicates that although molds release natural toxins, called > mycotoxins, these don't cause problems to people who live in moldy > houses because the toxins don't diffuse into the air. The only way > to be exposed to them is to swallow them. > > Recently, a mold called Stachybotrys, a greenish-black, slimy mold > found on wood or paper that has been wet for several days, has > gotten a lot of attention. Some claim Stachybotrys is the cause of > sick building syndrome, in which people occupying a building have a > variety of symptoms such as headaches; eye, nose and throat > irritation; dizziness; fatigue and breathing problems. But Wedner > says Stachybotrys itself has little to no affect on > health. " Stachybotrys is a mold that needs a lot of water, " he > says. " So it's a sign that there has been a lot of water in the > building. But it's not toxic, and people generally aren't allergic > to it. " > > In addition to Stachybotrys, flooded homes will also foster molds > that require less water, such as Aspergillus and Penicillium — bread > and cheese molds and common components of mildew. These molds and > others like them are the source of allergic reactions in sensitive > individuals. > > Wedner is currently studying the role of fungi and fungal allergens > in asthma, with particular emphasis on the role of fungi in the > inner-city setting. The data demonstrates the marked prevalence of > fungi in many homes in the St. Louis area and points out the > importance of fungal allergens in asthma and allergic rhinitis. With > Anupma Dixit, Ph.D., assistant professor of community health in the > Division of Environmental and Occupational Health at Saint Louis > University School of Public Health, Wedner is also continuing to > study the health effects of home flooding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I saw the State Farm info.and their bogus " expert " - This has got to be all planned because of the current flooding. And in that article when he says you have to ingest it for it to be toxic - SO I GUESS THAT THE ONLY WAY I GOT POISENED IS THE MOLD BLEW FROM THE VENT AND LANDED IN MY FOOD THEN I ATE IT ! NOT JUST INHALING IT - OR RUBBING MY EYES WITH IT ON MY HAND THAT HAD MOLD ON IT BECAUSE IT CAME FROM THE VENT - OR IT LANDS ON MY MAKEUP AND GETS IN SKIN - I COULD GO ON AND ON - MAYBE THIS GUY THINKS THE MOUTH IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE INTO THE BODY!!! > > " It's not toxic " !?! > > What is going on with these people... > > I would like to see him live in a building filled with it for a few > weeks and then say that. > I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Really. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 WELCOME TO MISSOURI(MISERY) YA'LLz(and my world)I think it's illegal for medical updates on the effects of toxic molds and damp indoor enviromentz to pass missouri borders. this is the show me state ya'llz, so if no one showzeses me,i'z just can say whatzever I wanz to. > > > > " It's not toxic " !?! > > > > What is going on with these people... > > > > I would like to see him live in a building filled with it for a few > > weeks and then say that. > > I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Really. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 What it is is that the government is a slave to business interests and the business interests have dictated that mold illness needs to be denied at al costs. So, they will say to the medical establishment, etc. that 'mold illness does not exist' nomatter how much evidence there is, they will pretend it doesn't exist and keep on repeating the same idiocies over and over and pretend they heard nothing else. Watch, you can see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Good one And I would too! > > If it truly isn't toxic, bring a jar with black mold in it (or > something that looks like it) and have them breathe it in if you're at > a court or W/C hearing. See how many are willing to. > > Barth > > > > --- > > L> " It's not toxic " !?! > > L> What is going on with these people... > > L> I would like to see him live in a building filled with it for a few > L> weeks and then say that. > L> I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Really. > > L> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Let us know if you do. Would be interesting! Barth r> Good one And I would too! >> >> If it truly isn't toxic, bring a jar with black mold in it (or >> something that looks like it) and have them breathe it in if you're r> at >> a court or W/C hearing. See how many are willing to. >> >> Barth >> >> >> >> --- >> >> L> " It's not toxic " !?! >> >> L> What is going on with these people... >> >> L> I would like to see him live in a building filled with it for a r> few >> L> weeks and then say that. >> L> I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Really. >> >> L> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 You know guys, this is just criminal. Unless we get the truth into the medicine and the money out of it, we can rest assured this won't be the last bogus article written to " advise " the sick. Mulvey son this is that defence expert doctor. maybe he needs a good dose to help him understand. --- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@> wrote: You'll love what this " allergy expert " has to say about Stachy.... No wonder people can't get the correct help. Allergy expert has advice for flood victims PhysOrg* http://www.physorg.com/news133108318.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 THE article was so promising! then bam. he tells me i am nuts and never got sick. great. i was sooooo sick from stochy. whatever, Anyone with Dr. senator or whatever in there name can say anything they want and we are the little worker ants crawling along. Its double speak. like in that book um, 1984-shred the truth and send out what makes wheels of production work. and believe me its not the word toxic. roe -- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: > > You'll love what this " allergy expert " has to say about Stachy.... > No wonder people can't get the correct help. > > Allergy expert has advice for flood victims > PhysOrg* > > http://www.physorg.com/news133108318.html > > As if the emotional and financial impact of flood damage isn't bad > enough, floodwaters can also bring health problems. H. Wedner, > M.D., professor of medicine and chief of the Division of Allergy and > Immunology at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, > says after the water recedes, damp homes and businesses are fertile > grounds for mold growth, which can cause allergic reactions and > asthmatic symptoms in sensitive people. > > > " Mold loves water, " Wedner says. " When your building is flooded, > it's very difficult to dry it out quickly and completely, and that > allows mold to grow. Walls made of Sheetrock soak up water far above > the floodline, and mold can be hidden under wallpaper, carpet and > floorboards and in ceiling tiles, furniture and clothing. " > > Wedner is a Washington University allergy and asthma specialist at > -Jewish Hospital. He has conducted research investigating the > molds and other allergens present in homes following the 1993 flood > in the Midwestern United States. > > Molds (and mildew, a type of mold) are fungi, which reproduce by > releasing spores. Inhaling the spores causes allergic reactions in > some people. Symptoms of mold allergy include itchy, watery eyes; > itchy, runny nose; headaches above and below the eyes; itchy ears > and changes in hearing; itchy throat and palate; difficulty > breathing; coughing; and shortness of breath. Mold spores may also > trigger asthmatic reactions in asthma sufferers. > > If a doctor confirms that health symptoms stem from a reaction to > mold, medical treatments are effective: those can be > pharmacotherapy — which may include antihistamines or steroids, > given intranasally or orally — or if necessary, immunotherapy, often > called allergy shots, which allow your immune system to build up a > tolerance to the allergen. But Wedner emphasizes that the source of > the reaction, the mold itself, also has to be removed. > > For those who have to deal with a flooded building, Wedner has the > following recommendations: 1) dry it out quickly — mold will grow > almost immediately in wet conditions; 2) cool it down — mold likes > warmth as well as humidity; 3) remove wet materials — wet Sheetrock > can't be repaired and must be taken out; 4) clean anything that has > been wet — that includes clothing, which should be dry cleaned; 5) > throw away anything that can't be thoroughly cleaned — that favorite > couch might have to go; 6) hire a professional to clean affected > areas of the building with appropriate materials — often a solution > of 10 percent bleach is used. > > > In addition to allergic reactions, mold has other negative effects. > The organisms release substances, volatile organic compounds or > VOCs, that people can smell even at low levels. The musty odor is > disagreeable and can make a person react at an emotional level. " If > you feel sick when you smell mold, make sure what's making you sick > is the mold and not the emotions associated with the smell, " Wedner > says. > > Mold can also damage a building structurally. It releases enzymes to > breakdown cellulose, a major component of wood. > > Wedner indicates that although molds release natural toxins, called > mycotoxins, these don't cause problems to people who live in moldy > houses because the toxins don't diffuse into the air. The only way > to be exposed to them is to swallow them. > > Recently, a mold called Stachybotrys, a greenish-black, slimy mold > found on wood or paper that has been wet for several days, has > gotten a lot of attention. Some claim Stachybotrys is the cause of > sick building syndrome, in which people occupying a building have a > variety of symptoms such as headaches; eye, nose and throat > irritation; dizziness; fatigue and breathing problems. But Wedner > says Stachybotrys itself has little to no affect on > health. " Stachybotrys is a mold that needs a lot of water, " he > says. " So it's a sign that there has been a lot of water in the > building. But it's not toxic, and people generally aren't allergic > to it. " > > In addition to Stachybotrys, flooded homes will also foster molds > that require less water, such as Aspergillus and Penicillium — bread > and cheese molds and common components of mildew. These molds and > others like them are the source of allergic reactions in sensitive > individuals. > > Wedner is currently studying the role of fungi and fungal allergens > in asthma, with particular emphasis on the role of fungi in the > inner-city setting. The data demonstrates the marked prevalence of > fungi in many homes in the St. Louis area and points out the > importance of fungal allergens in asthma and allergic rhinitis. With > Anupma Dixit, Ph.D., assistant professor of community health in the > Division of Environmental and Occupational Health at Saint Louis > University School of Public Health, Wedner is also continuing to > study the health effects of home flooding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 I have been informed from a source that State Farm does not use this guy anymore due to some Katrina cases in New Orleans and a good attorney!!! Or something just went right. - -- In , " mlmj75 " <MLMJ75@...> wrote: > > You know guys, this is just criminal. Unless we get the truth into > the medicine and the money out of it, we can rest assured this won't > be the last bogus article written to " advise " the sick. > > Mulvey son > > > > You'll love what this " allergy expert " has to say about Stachy.... > No wonder people can't get the correct help. > > Allergy expert has advice for flood victims > PhysOrg* > > http://www.physorg.com/news133108318.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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