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We need the lab ranges, highs and lows.. to be able to compare to... did they give you those as well?

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On Tue, 27 May 2003 13:07:33 -0400 " " writes:

Ok, just came back from the dr and here are my test results, of which the dr said they were all normal. I still feel very bad.

T3, Total 162

T3 Uptake 26

T4 Free 1.00

T4 Thyroxine Total 7.3

Free T4 index (T7) 1.9

What does everything think?

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>Thank goodness she gave me a copy of the lab report.

T3, Total 162 60-181

T3 Uptake 26 22-35%

T4 Free 1.00 0.8 - 1.8 NG/DL

T4 Thyroxine Total 7.3 4.5-12.5 MCG/DL

Free T4 index (T7) 1.9 1.4-3.8

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,

>

> We need the lab ranges, highs and lows.. to be able to compare

to... did

> they give you those as well?

>

> Topper ()

> http://toppertwo.tripod.com

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> On Tue, 27 May 2003 13:07:33 -0400 " "

> <stargait@t...> writes:

> Ok, just came back from the dr and here are my test results, of

which the

> dr said they were all normal. I still feel very bad.

>

> T3, Total 162

> T3 Uptake 26

> T4 Free 1.00

> T4 Thyroxine Total 7.3

> Free T4 index (T7) 1.9

>

> What does everything think?

>

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>

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In my opinion your T4 and T3 are still low.. did the doc increase your

meds?

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On Tue, 27 May 2003 17:38:01 -0000 " stargaitshetlands "

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> >Thank goodness she gave me a copy of the lab report.

>

>

> T3, Total 162 60-181

> T3 Uptake 26 22-35%

> T4 Free 1.00 0.8 - 1.8 NG/DL

> T4 Thyroxine Total 7.3 4.5-12.5 MCG/DL

> Free T4 index (T7) 1.9 1.4-3.8

>

> Thanks

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My dr says I am normal and I am not on any meds. Now I have to convince a dr. I was thinking about trying the OTC.

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,In my opinion your T4 and T3 are still low.. did the doc increase yourmeds?Topper ()On Tue, 27 May 2003 17:38:01 -0000 "stargaitshetlands" writes:> > >Thank goodness she gave me a copy of the lab report.> > > T3, Total 162 60-181> T3 Uptake 26 22-35%> T4 Free 1.00 0.8 - 1.8 NG/DL > T4 Thyroxine Total 7.3 4.5-12.5 MCG/DL > Free T4 index (T7) 1.9 1.4-3.8> > Thanks>

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Sounds like a plan.. keep us posted!

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On Wed, 28 May 2003 08:09:25 -0400 " " writes:

Topper,

Thanks for your replies, they have helped. I was hoping to get input from several people. I see another dr on Monday and will talk to her and see what she has to say before I self-medicate.

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(((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))) Brava!!!!!!!! Another soapbox orator! Love it:) You are so fluent. Keep up the good work!

Another one who has pushed the docs off the pedestal

Feisty

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I'm gonna jump up and down and say find a new doc.. get on meds.. depression is a sign of thyroid.. and so are the other things that you've listed.

.... and in my opinion depression can be triggered just by being bummed out about being sick and not knowing why.. I just don't understand why they immediately have to put everyone on anti-depressants without even trying to find out what is going on... Depression doesn't have to be this new fangled fancy disease that is so IN to be medication for... IMHO

Now.. we all know too that your other symptoms can also be other things.. but to me your lab results are showing numbers on the low side for your Frees...

....some one else jump in here with some opinions.. I'm not the only one here with a voice and needs to hear from more than just me.

You know what? I'm starting to think that they are using anit-depressants as something to settle folks down and stretch things out.. makes more money for them 'cause we're gonna keep getting sicker but with the anti-depressants we won't have enough UMPH to fight them to treat us properly....

....oh gosh.. I'm climbed back on my soap box again.. sorry about that.... Maybe we should have a closet here where we can put our soap boxes and then lock the door... heehehehehehhe

Topper ()http://toppertwo.tripod.com

On Tue, 27 May 2003 18:14:13 -0400 " " writes:

I am fatigued to the point I haven't been to work for 3 weeks, drs trying to find out why. I have been depressed, very forgetful, muscle aches, diarrhea, and just generally feel like crap. Of course the drs think that since I mentioned depression that it is all in my head and put me on anti-depressants. They are quick to do that, "just in case".

I do have thyroid disease in my family.

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>

> Feeling good is not to be doscounted! The only thing I worry

about with

> T3 for life is a possibility of low calcitonin. That and cost was

the

> ponly reasons I wen t back to Armour and I am not certain I ma

sticking

> wiht it, or if RT3 will return, it is too soon yet to tell. Armour

does

> contain calcitonin and this is a hormone produced by the thyroid

that we

> need to kepe calcium in our bones.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

Hi Val..thanks for quick response.. .I didn't realize you went back

to Armour. When did you do that and how do you feel now?

Would you worry about the 6.2 level for my FT3 result?

How long have you been back on Armour and how did you make the

switch back?

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I went back starting about a month ago and the vote is still out as to

how I feel. So far I have some hypo crept back in and BP is higher than

it was, but I am mid-major hormone changes right now in preparation to

seeing a new doctor at the end of April. By then I will be getting new

labs and make a better decision as to if I am staying on Armour plus T3

or going back to all T3. I am currently on 3 grains Armoru and 50mcgT3

whihc seems ot work OK, I had tried 4 grains and 25mcg T3 but felt bad

whne I dropped that last 25mcg T3 so went back. It has been a fairly

smooth transition except for that. I am dosing by feel as I susually can

do this pretty well with thyroid, and my temps have not moved from 98.6

average so that was good anyway. I had some brian fog creeping in a

couple times and am having a horrid problem wiht muscle fatigue which I

ma not sure what is causing but I do nto think it is thyroid related as

I had this on all T3 as well.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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>

> I went back starting about a month ago and the vote is still out

as to

> how I feel. So far I have some hypo crept back in and BP is higher

than

> it was, but I am mid-major hormone changes right now in

preparation to

> seeing a new doctor at the end of April. By then I will be getting

new

> labs and make a better decision as to if I am staying on Armour

plus T3

> or going back to all T3. I am currently on 3 grains Armoru and

50mcgT3

> whihc seems ot work OK, I had tried 4 grains and 25mcg T3 but felt

bad

> whne I dropped that last 25mcg T3 so went back. It has been a

fairly

> smooth transition except for that. I am dosing by feel as I

susually can

> do this pretty well with thyroid, and my temps have not moved from

98.6

> average so that was good anyway. I had some brian fog creeping in

a

> couple times and am having a horrid problem wiht muscle fatigue

which I

> ma not sure what is causing but I do nto think it is thyroid

related as

> I had this on all T3 as well.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

I am considering moving back as well but it scares me to ever feel

as bad as I did roughly a year ago. .I guess I could always return

to Cytomel if i wanted to.

I'll watch carefully how you do before I make the switch back. .it

sure would be alot cheaper as this Cytomel stuff is way too

expensive.

Thanks again Val and good luck on your Armour journey.

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Wow! How nice to see the support. Thank you guys.

I did do some testing while off of everything completly for 3 weeks.

TSH 2.879 0.350-5.500

T3,Free 2.4 2.3-4.2

T4,Free 1.05 0.61-1.76

Saliva Cortisol:

7am-8am: 11 13-24

11am-12: 5 5-10

4pm-5pm: 3 3-8

11pm-midnight: 2 1-4

Cortisol Burden: 21 23-42

(I know...what a mess I'm in, huh? I'm really suffering).

I am currently taking only 1/2 grain of Westhroid. I am taking a

supplement with licorice root, rhodiola, ashwahganda, ginseng & b

vitamins. I take vitamin C, magnesium & celtic grey sea salt.

Have you ever heard of anyone not being able to handle hc after being

on it? I was on it for 2 1/2 years. Any advice? Do you know of

anyone that is trying to heal their adrenals that is not on hc? Is

there anyone I can talk to that is not on hc and doing okay?

Thanks so much!

Gayle

>

> Gayle can you come off all adrenal meds (even th herbals) for a

couple

> weeks to have testing done? You really need ot clarify what is

going on.

> Adrenal status vcan change maybe you have cyclical Cushings where

> cortils levels swing form high to low as the tempser sounds liek

high

> cortils but can also be from hypoglycemia from lwo cortiosl. I

would

> suggest a glucose meter to monitor your glucose carefully at home.

It

> can tell you alot of what is happening wiht cortiosl.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

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I'm not on HC but can't say I'm doing well. Surviving and getting by.. I was on an adrenal glandular from Herbal Healer and Natural Creations (Adremal Complex).  There were times I felt good and times I felt fat, tired and run down. -Kris Kris and Bob Brunkhorstbkbrunk@... Wow!  How nice to see the support.  Thank you guys.I did do some testing while off of everything completly for 3 weeks.TSH   2.879      0.350-5.500 T3,Free   2.4      2.3-4.2   T4,Free   1.05      0.61-1.76Saliva Cortisol:7am-8am:   11   13-2411am-12:    5    5-104pm-5pm:    3    3-811pm-midnight: 2   1-4Cortisol Burden:  21   23-42(I know...what a mess I'm in, huh?  I'm really suffering).I am currently taking only 1/2 grain of Westhroid.  I am taking a supplement with licorice root, rhodiola, ashwahganda, ginseng & b vitamins.  I take vitamin C, magnesium & celtic grey sea salt.Have you ever heard of anyone not being able to handle hc after being on it?  I was on it for 2 1/2 years.  Any advice?  Do you know of anyone that is trying to heal their adrenals that is not on hc?  Is there anyone I can talk to that is not on hc and doing okay?Thanks so much!Gayle Gayle can you come off all adrenal meds (even th herbals) for a  couple  weeks to have testing done? You really need ot clarify what is  going on.  Adrenal status vcan change maybe you have cyclical Cushings where cortils levels swing form high to low as the tempser sounds liek  high  cortils but can also be from hypoglycemia from lwo cortiosl. I  would  suggest a glucose meter to monitor your glucose carefully at home.  It  can tell you alot of what is happening wiht cortiosl.--                       Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV                          http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/                     http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ ------------------------------------

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Gayle~

You thyroid tests seem similar to mine. I plan on getting a saliva cortisol done as I never had one done only blood tests. It will be interesting to see how close they are to yours.

Rhonda

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Wow! How nice to see the support. Thank you guys.I did do some testing while off of everything completly for 3 weeks.TSH 2.879 0.350-5.500 T3,Free 2.4 2.3-4.2 T4,Free 1.05 0.61-1.76Saliva Cortisol:7am-8am: 11 13-2411am-12: 5 5-104pm-5pm: 3 3-811pm-midnight: 2 1-4Cortisol Burden: 21 23-42(I know...what a mess I'm in, huh? I'm really suffering).I am currently taking only 1/2 grain of Westhroid. I am taking a supplement with licorice root, rhodiola, ashwahganda, ginseng & b vitamins. I take vitamin C, magnesium & celtic grey sea salt.Have you ever heard of anyone not being able to handle hc after being on it? I was on it for 2 1/2 years. Any advice? Do you know of anyone that is trying to heal their adrenals that is not on hc? Is there anyone I can talk to that is not on hc and doing okay?Thanks so much!Gayle>> Gayle can you come off all adrenal meds (even th herbals) for a couple > weeks to have testing done? You really need ot clarify what is going on. > Adrenal status vcan change maybe you have cyclical Cushings where > cortils levels swing form high to low as the tempser sounds liek high > cortils but can also be from hypoglycemia from lwo cortiosl. I would > suggest a glucose meter to monitor your glucose carefully at home. It > can tell you alot of what is happening wiht cortiosl.> > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/>

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