Re: Pre-existing conditions

[Guest guest]

It's an insurance thing. From what I understand (having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat. ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because, eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but that's another conversation for another group).

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned, "pre-existing conditons" Can someone explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it, and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care? How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing conditions, what's wrong with these people?

[Guest guest]

Yes, you are right, they do not deny benefits with someone who has a preexisting condition, but legally they can deny coverage if there is a lapse in coverage. This is why COBRA was invented. If there is a lapse, they can deny you coverage because of a preexisting condition. If there is no lapse, then they cannot deny coverage.

Insurance companies have never denied benefits to people with pre-existing conditions. What they have done is apply waiting periods before coverage for that condition is paid. They also give those patients tiered rates which are extremely high, essentially making it unobtainable. Nobody wants people to go without health coverage. The question is who should pay for it. The creation of state funded high risk pools to provide coverage for people with these conditions is a proposed solution. Keep in mind that health insurance companies are businesses, just like auto insurance companies. If auto insurance companies were forced to provide coverage to all high risk drivers (i.e. drunk drivers) then all other policy holders would have to absorb the extremely high rates as a result. Our health care system definitely needs reform, but government intervention into how private businesses operate (other than regulating against fraud etc) is not the answer. In matters of healthcare, I want someone who has to answer to a higher authority such as regulatory or courts for accountability. The govt does not have to answer to anyone, so I dont want them controlling my family's healthcare.

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned, "pre-existing conditons"

Can someone explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it, and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care? How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing conditions, what's wrong with these people?

[Guest guest]

According to what I just saw, pre-existing conditions is allowed, and women pay more...............this was just on channel 5 talking about Obama care bill to be passed or not, for todayTo: miralax Sent: Thu, June 28, 2012 7:17:15 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing

conditions

It's an insurance thing. From what I understand (having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat. ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because, eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but that's another conversation for another group).

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned, "pre-existing conditons" Can someone explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it, and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care? How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing conditions, what's wrong with these people?

[Guest guest]

, if it's all "speculation" then wouldn't your assertion that "what it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the government" be speculation, too? (I'm assuming you haven't read the entire law either.) And by the way, I know everyone keeps calling it healthcare reform, but it is actually healthcare insurance reform.In my opinion, where this law went wrong is in failing to institute the Public Option, which would have helped bring down healthcare insurance costs, perhaps even without the Individual Mandate. Before it was privatized, Blue Cross Blue Shield was a government run health insurance company that

helped keep healthcare insurance costs VERY affordable for as long as it existed. Then, in the early 90s, when this country was de-regulation happy, it was allowed to become privatized. If you care to look, you can see a direct correlation between that and the meteoric rise of healthcare costs. The health insurance companies claimed that what kept costs so high was the malpractice law suits, but that turned out not to be true when States enacted laws limiting what a person could get in monetary payment for being a victim of malpractice and healthcare insurance costs kept rising.You said: "We need to fix our healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage."Well, what we have now IS a free market healthcare system. ACA does not alter that. There are multiple healthcare insurance providers = competition. Tort reform didn't bring down costs - they kept rising. The only change was that we, the public, have less recourse when we are wronged or injured due to negligence or malpractice. And employers providing group insurance is the ONLY reason that 99% of us can afford healthcare insurance at all. Most insurance policies provided by employers do allow employees to choose the type of coverage they need (at least my company does). We can choose between Individual, Individual + Spouse, Individual + Child, Individual + Children, and Family. And within those groups, we can choose the level of insurance we want, high or low deductible, etc. I know not everyone has that, but I can assure you that without my employer providing it through

group insurance, many wouldn't be able to afford such a caliber of health care insurance.Anyway, I think that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will eventually prove itself to be one of the best laws enacted in recent history. When children can remain on their parents' healthcare insurance until the age of 26, when no one will be turned down for healthcare insurance because of a pre-existing condition, and when we all age into the "doughnut hole" in Medicare Rx and discover there is no longer one, we'll all look back on this and be grateful that the SCOTUS upheld this law.My faith in SCOTUS would have been fully restored had they not held up the Citizens United act - now THAT is another conversation altogether To: miralax Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Pre-existing conditions

Nobody knows what Obamacare provides, it's all speculation. No one even read it before they passed the bill. It's all speculation. What it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the government.

I don't understand why people believe that the govt bureacrats will be so much more compassionate and benevolent than insurance executives. In order to pay for it, our taxes will be massively increased. Massively. The media fails to provide information on that issue.

We need to fix our healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage.

According to what I just saw, pre-existing conditions is allowed, and women pay more...............this was just on channel 5 talking about Obama care bill to be passed or not, for today

To: miralax Sent: Thu, June 28, 2012 7:17:15 AM

Subject: Re: Pre-existing

conditions

It's an insurance thing. From what I understand (having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat.

ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because, eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but that's another conversation for another group).

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned, "pre-existing conditons"

Can someone explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it, and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care? How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing conditions, what's wrong with these people?

[Guest guest]

I live in Canada where we have universal health care. If we want something that covers a little better people with pre existing conditions are tossed out and denied.

Our health care is good that if a test is needed there is no fighting with insurance companies. If surgery is needed you will get it.

Problems are long waiting periods and hospitals who provide substandard care (IMO). Also if you are like me who has a lot of health problems if they do their group of tests and they all fall near the normal range they quit trying to help. It is not a perfect system either. There is no competition and people are complacent.

For example if a person needs a hip replacement there can be up to a 2 year wait. If I need an MRI I look at a 4 month wait.

Yes your taxes will go up. But if you add up your insurance premiums and your copays the increase will not be as massive as one may think.

It is not perfect but neither of our systems is.

From: Lillu

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:00 AM

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Pre-existing conditions

, if it's all "speculation" then wouldn't your assertion that "what it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the government" be speculation, too? (I'm assuming you haven't read the entire law either.) And by the way, I know everyone keeps calling it healthcare reform, but it is actually healthcare insurance reform.

In my opinion, where this law went wrong is in failing to institute the Public Option, which would have helped bring down healthcare insurance costs, perhaps even without the Individual Mandate.

Before it was privatized, Blue Cross Blue Shield was a government run health insurance company that helped keep healthcare insurance costs VERY affordable for as long as it existed. Then, in the early 90s, when this country was de-regulation happy, it was allowed to become privatized. If you care to look, you can see a direct correlation between that and the meteoric rise of healthcare costs. The health insurance companies claimed that what kept costs so high was the malpractice law suits, but that turned out not to be true when States enacted laws limiting what a person could get in monetary payment for being a victim of malpractice and healthcare insurance costs kept rising.

You said: "We need to fix our healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage."

Well, what we have now IS a free market healthcare system. ACA does not alter that. There are multiple healthcare insurance providers = competition. Tort reform didn't bring down costs - they kept rising. The only change was that we, the public, have less recourse when we are wronged or injured due to negligence or malpractice. And employers providing group insurance is the ONLY reason that 99% of us can afford healthcare insurance at all. Most insurance policies provided by employers do allow employees to choose the type of coverage they need (at least my company does). We can choose between Individual, Individual + Spouse, Individual + Child, Individual + Children, and Family. And within those groups, we can choose the level of insurance we want, high or low deductible, etc. I know not everyone has that, but I can assure you that without my employer providing it through group insurance, many wouldn't be able to afford such a caliber of health care insurance.

Anyway, I think that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will eventually prove itself to be one of the best laws enacted in recent history. When children can remain on their parents' healthcare insurance until the age of 26, when no one will be turned down for healthcare insurance because of a pre-existing condition, and when we all age into the "doughnut hole" in Medicare Rx and discover there is no longer one, we'll all look back on this and be grateful that the SCOTUS upheld this law.

My faith in SCOTUS would have been fully restored had they not held up the Citizens United act - now THAT is another conversation altogether

To: miralax Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:11 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing conditions

Nobody knows what Obamacare provides, it's all speculation. No one even read it before they passed the bill. It's all speculation. What it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the government.

I don't understand why people believe that the govt bureacrats will be so much more compassionate and benevolent than insurance executives. In order to pay for it, our taxes will be massively increased. Massively. The media fails to provide information on that issue.

We need to fix our healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage.

According to what I just saw, pre-existing conditions is allowed, and women pay more...............this was just on channel 5 talking about Obama care bill to be passed or not, for today

To: miralax Sent: Thu, June 28, 2012 7:17:15 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing conditions

It's an insurance thing. From what I understand (having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat.

ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because, eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but that's another conversation for another group).

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned, "pre-existing conditons"

Can someone explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it, and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care?

How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing conditions, what's wrong with these people?

[Guest guest]

And here there is no ability to sue because you have to prove negligence and the doctors all are covering each other’s behinds.

From: Lillu

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:00 AM

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Pre-existing conditions

, if it's all "speculation" then wouldn't your assertion that "what it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the government" be speculation, too? (I'm assuming you haven't read the entire law either.) And by the way, I know everyone keeps calling it healthcare reform, but it is actually healthcare insurance reform.

In my opinion, where this law went wrong is in failing to institute the Public Option, which would have helped bring down healthcare insurance costs, perhaps even without the Individual Mandate.

Before it was privatized, Blue Cross Blue Shield was a government run health insurance company that helped keep healthcare insurance costs VERY affordable for as long as it existed. Then, in the early 90s, when this country was de-regulation happy, it was allowed to become privatized. If you care to look, you can see a direct correlation between that and the meteoric rise of healthcare costs. The health insurance companies claimed that what kept costs so high was the malpractice law suits, but that turned out not to be true when States enacted laws limiting what a person could get in monetary payment for being a victim of malpractice and healthcare insurance costs kept rising.

You said: "We need to fix our healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage."

Well, what we have now IS a free market healthcare system. ACA does not alter that. There are multiple healthcare insurance providers = competition. Tort reform didn't bring down costs - they kept rising. The only change was that we, the public, have less recourse when we are wronged or injured due to negligence or malpractice. And employers providing group insurance is the ONLY reason that 99% of us can afford healthcare insurance at all. Most insurance policies provided by employers do allow employees to choose the type of coverage they need (at least my company does). We can choose between Individual, Individual + Spouse, Individual + Child, Individual + Children, and Family. And within those groups, we can choose the level of insurance we want, high or low deductible, etc. I know not everyone has that, but I can assure you that without my employer providing it through group insurance, many wouldn't be able to afford such a caliber of health care insurance.

Anyway, I think that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will eventually prove itself to be one of the best laws enacted in recent history. When children can remain on their parents' healthcare insurance until the age of 26, when no one will be turned down for healthcare insurance because of a pre-existing condition, and when we all age into the "doughnut hole" in Medicare Rx and discover there is no longer one, we'll all look back on this and be grateful that the SCOTUS upheld this law.

My faith in SCOTUS would have been fully restored had they not held up the Citizens United act - now THAT is another conversation altogether

To: miralax Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:11 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing conditions

Nobody knows what Obamacare provides, it's all speculation. No one even read it before they passed the bill. It's all speculation. What it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the government.

I don't understand why people believe that the govt bureacrats will be so much more compassionate and benevolent than insurance executives. In order to pay for it, our taxes will be massively increased. Massively. The media fails to provide information on that issue.

We need to fix our healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage.

According to what I just saw, pre-existing conditions is allowed, and women pay more...............this was just on channel 5 talking about Obama care bill to be passed or not, for today

To: miralax Sent: Thu, June 28, 2012 7:17:15 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing conditions

It's an insurance thing. From what I understand (having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat.

ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because, eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but that's another conversation for another group).

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned, "pre-existing conditons"

Can someone explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it, and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care?

How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing conditions, what's wrong with these people?

[Guest guest]

These are the facts.

Everyone please educate yourselves, especially moms.

Pre-existing conditions are covered & insurance companies can not deny you coverage with Obamacare.

Yvette

Re: Pre-existing conditions

It's an insurance thing. From what I understand (having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat.

ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because, eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but that's another conversation for another group).

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned, "pre-existing conditons"

Can someone explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it, and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care?

How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing conditions, what's wrong with these people?

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[Guest guest]

It appears that this has turned to a political group....just stating my

opinion.--Ann L Brown12138 Roy Jech Farm RoadGentry, AR 72734 Quoting R van

Esveld : And here there is no ability to sue because you

have to prove negligence and the doctors all are covering each other’s

behinds. From: Lillu

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:00

AMTo: miralax Subject:

Re: Pre-existing

conditions ,

if it's all " speculation " then wouldn't your assertion that " what

it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the

government " be speculation, too? (I'm assuming you haven't read the

entire law either.) And by the way, I know everyone keeps calling it

healthcare reform, but it is actually healthcare insurance reform.In

my opinion, where this law went wrong is in failing to institute the Public

Option, which would have helped bring down healthcare insurance costs, perhaps

even without the Individual Mandate.

Before it was privatized,

Blue Cross Blue Shield was a government run health insurance company that helped

keep healthcare insurance costs VERY affordable for as long as it existed. Then,

in the early 90s, when this country was de-regulation happy, it was allowed to

become privatized. If you care to look, you can see a direct correlation

between that and the meteoric rise of healthcare costs. The health

insurance companies claimed that what kept costs so high was the malpractice law

suits, but that turned out not to be true when States enacted laws limiting what

a person could get in monetary payment for being a victim of malpractice and

healthcare insurance costs kept rising.You

said: " We need to fix our healthcare system with free market

solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the

employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people

choose their type if coverage. " Well, what we

have now IS a free market healthcare system. ACA does not alter

that. There are multiple healthcare insurance providers =

competition. Tort reform didn't bring down costs - they kept rising.

The only change was that we, the public, have less recourse when we are wronged

or injured due to negligence or malpractice. And employers providing group

insurance is the ONLY reason that 99% of us can afford healthcare insurance at

all. Most insurance policies provided by employers do allow employees to

choose the type of coverage they need (at least my company does). We can

choose between Individual, Individual + Spouse, Individual + Child, Individual +

Children, and Family. And within those groups, we can choose the level of

insurance we want, high or low deductible, etc. I know not everyone has

that, but I can assure you that without my employer providing it through group

insurance, many wouldn't be able to afford such a caliber of health care

insurance. Anyway, I think that the Affordable

Care Act (ACA) will eventually prove itself to be one of the best laws enacted

in recent history. When children can remain on their parents' healthcare

insurance until the age of 26, when no one will be turned down for healthcare

insurance because of a pre-existing condition, and when we all age into the

" doughnut hole " in Medicare Rx and discover there is no longer

one, we'll all look back on this and be grateful that the SCOTUS upheld

this law.My faith in SCOTUS would have

been fully restored had they not held up the Citizens United act - now THAT is

another conversation altogether From: Templeton

To: miralax Sent: Thursday, June

28, 2012 10:11 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing

conditions Nobody knows what Obamacare provides, it's

all speculation. No one even read it before they passed the

bill. It's all speculation. What it does is hand over control

of our entire healthcare system to the government. I don't

understand why people believe that the govt bureacrats will be so much more

compassionate and benevolent than insurance executives. In order to pay

for it, our taxes will be massively increased. Massively. The media

fails to provide information on that issue. We need to fix our

healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition.

Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance.

Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage.On Jun 28, 2012 9:49 AM, " jeanie ward "

wrote:

According to what I just saw, pre-existing conditions is allowed, and

women pay more...............this was just on channel 5 talking about Obama care

bill to be passed or not, for today To: miralax Sent: Thu, June 28,

2012 7:17:15 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing conditions It's an insurance thing. From what I understand

(having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want

to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy

began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something

simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make

decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat. ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because,

eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover

everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but

that's another conversation for another group). On Jun 28, 2012, at 7:02

AM, jeanie ward wrote:

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the

Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned,

" pre-existing conditons " Can someone

explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it,

and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care?

How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing

conditions, what's wrong with these people?

[Guest guest]

Not a political group. LOL. Just a brief, friendly discussion about what may become of our healthcare.....

Now then, about Miralax.....

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Sent:

Thu, Jun 28, 2012 6:14:19 PM

It appears that this has turned to a political group....just stating my

opinion.--Ann L Brown12138 Roy Jech Farm RoadGentry, AR 72734 Quoting R van

Esveld : And here there is no ability to sue because you

have to prove negligence and the doctors all are covering each other’s

behinds. From: Lillu

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:00

AMTo: miralax Subject:

Re: Pre-existing

conditions ,

if it's all " speculation " then wouldn't your assertion that " what

it does is hand over control of our entire healthcare system to the

government " be speculation, too? (I'm assuming you haven't read the

entire law either.) And by the way, I know everyone keeps calling it

healthcare reform, but it is actually healthcare insurance reform.In

my opinion, where this law went wrong is in failing to institute the Public

Option, which would have helped bring down healthcare insurance costs, perhaps

even without the Individual Mandate.

Before it was privatized,

Blue Cross Blue Shield was a government run health insurance company that helped

keep healthcare insurance costs VERY affordable for as long as it existed. Then,

in the early 90s, when this country was de-regulation happy, it was allowed to

become privatized. If you care to look, you can see a direct correlation

between that and the meteoric rise of healthcare costs. The health

insurance companies claimed that what kept costs so high was the malpractice law

suits, but that turned out not to be true when States enacted laws limiting what

a person could get in monetary payment for being a victim of malpractice and

healthcare insurance costs kept rising.You

said: " We need to fix our healthcare system with free market

solutions. Allow competition. Tort reform. Remove the

employers as providers of insurance. Customized policies to allow people

choose their type if coverage. " Well, what we

have now IS a free market healthcare system. ACA does not alter

that. There are multiple healthcare insurance providers =

competition. Tort reform didn't bring down costs - they kept rising.

The only change was that we, the public, have less recourse when we are wronged

or injured due to negligence or malpractice. And employers providing group

insurance is the ONLY reason that 99% of us can afford healthcare insurance at

all. Most insurance policies provided by employers do allow employees to

choose the type of coverage they need (at least my company does). We can

choose between Individual, Individual + Spouse, Individual + Child, Individual +

Children, and Family. And within those groups, we can choose the level of

insurance we want, high or low deductible, etc. I know not everyone has

that, but I can assure you that without my employer providing it through group

insurance, many wouldn't be able to afford such a caliber of health care

insurance. Anyway, I think that the Affordable

Care Act (ACA) will eventually prove itself to be one of the best laws enacted

in recent history. When children can remain on their parents' healthcare

insurance until the age of 26, when no one will be turned down for healthcare

insurance because of a pre-existing condition, and when we all age into the

" doughnut hole " in Medicare Rx and discover there is no longer

one, we'll all look back on this and be grateful that the SCOTUS upheld

this law.My faith in SCOTUS would have

been fully restored had they not held up the Citizens United act - now THAT is

another conversation altogether From: Templeton

To: miralax Sent: Thursday, June

28, 2012 10:11 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing

conditions Nobody knows what Obamacare provides, it's

all speculation. No one even read it before they passed the

bill. It's all speculation. What it does is hand over control

of our entire healthcare system to the government. I don't

understand why people believe that the govt bureacrats will be so much more

compassionate and benevolent than insurance executives. In order to pay

for it, our taxes will be massively increased. Massively. The media

fails to provide information on that issue. We need to fix our

healthcare system with free market solutions. Allow competition.

Tort reform. Remove the employers as providers of insurance.

Customized policies to allow people choose their type if coverage.On Jun 28, 2012 9:49 AM, " jeanie ward "

wrote:

According to what I just saw, pre-existing conditions is allowed, and

women pay more...............this was just on channel 5 talking about Obama care

bill to be passed or not, for today To: miralax Sent: Thu, June 28,

2012 7:17:15 AMSubject: Re: Pre-existing conditions It's an insurance thing. From what I understand

(having a serious preexisting condition myself), insurance companies didn't want

to pick up someone who has some kind of condition incurred before the policy

began. They didn't want to have to cover the costs...it might be something

simple and inexpensive, but it also might be something very serious and costly. Either way, they don't want to be put in the position of having to make

decisions of what's more cost-effective to treat or not treat. ObamaCare will cover preexisting conditions because,

eventually, there won't be any other choice for insurance. They'll HAVE to cover

everyone or people will die (which I also believe is their ulterior motive, but

that's another conversation for another group). On Jun 28, 2012, at 7:02

AM, jeanie ward wrote:

You know I was just watching the news and it mentioned the

Obama care questions people want to know about and they mentioned,

" pre-existing conditons " Can someone

explain to me how this ever became, (pre-existing conditions) who created it,

and why it even exists? In my eyes, it's neglecting the ill who need care?

How can we suggest they do away with pre-existing

conditions, what's wrong with these people?