Can ulcer patients use CSM?

[Guest guest]

I had bleeding from a duodenal ulcer in February this year. It was

most likely caused by overuse of aspirins.

Since I have to deal with cross-contamination issues, taking

Cholestyramine ocassionally has proved beneficial. However, I think I

read somewhere that it is not advised for anyone who has a stomach

ulcer (I assume they mean active ulcer).

In march this year a gastroscopy has been performed and it was found

that my ulcer has healed. I was still advised to stick to the dietary

regimen and watch for the symptoms if they occur.

So the question for CSM users - Could you please ask your doctor if

people who have had a duodenal ulcer (but which has healed in the

meantime) can safely use CSM?

I feel I could benefit from ocassional use, but I am afraid it will

provoke the ulcer again. For instance, yesterday I took some CSM and

felt a lot better regarding brain fog, but today I feel the pain in

the region where the ulcer was.

(CSM is not commonly used here, so most doctors haven't even heard of

it, let alone know what its contraindications are.)

-Branislav

[Guest guest]

Branislav, this problem has been on my mind too, guess I well be

finding out shortly, it's going to be a bummer if I cant tolerate CSM.

the mayo clinic was pretty foggy on just exactly what the sore/cyst

in my stomach was but I know it get's aggervated/reinfected easy and

goes on it cause inflamed bowels. never took asprin much, just

something caused by exposure, my stomach and there on got pretty ate

up during exposure. I do pretty good at controling it at least by

watching what I eat but even some inhaled exposures can upset it.

does that happen with your ulcer?

[Guest guest]

Who,

Officially my ulcer was caused by the overuse of aspirin (which

belongs to the class of medicines known as Non Steroidal Anti

Inflammatory Drugs (NSADIs). NSAIDs really can cause ulcers, in fact

they are the 2nd cause of all ulcers (the first cause is helicobacter

pilory bacteria).

However, I agree with you - my feeling is that inhaling the irritative

MVOCs and perhaps mycotoxins has at least aggravated the condition

with my ulcer. Last year especially, I was exposed to massive amounts

of some very irritating fumes from a building nearby and when I

inhaled it, it felt as if it burned my digestive tract from the

inside. So I have no doubt that that was also one of the causes.

Please ask your doctors if people with duodenal ulcer (which is not

detectable anymore with gastroscopy) can safely use CSM.

-Branislav

>

> Branislav, this problem has been on my mind too, guess I well be

> finding out shortly, it's going to be a bummer if I cant tolerate CSM.

> the mayo clinic was pretty foggy on just exactly what the sore/cyst

> in my stomach was but I know it get's aggervated/reinfected easy and

> goes on it cause inflamed bowels. never took asprin much, just

> something caused by exposure, my stomach and there on got pretty ate

> up during exposure. I do pretty good at controling it at least by

> watching what I eat but even some inhaled exposures can upset it.

> does that happen with your ulcer?

>

[Guest guest]

would anyone be able to ask Dr. Shoemaker thats here on the board?

> >

> > Branislav, this problem has been on my mind too, guess I well be

> > finding out shortly, it's going to be a bummer if I cant tolerate

CSM.

> > the mayo clinic was pretty foggy on just exactly what the

sore/cyst

> > in my stomach was but I know it get's aggervated/reinfected easy

and

> > goes on it cause inflamed bowels. never took asprin much, just

> > something caused by exposure, my stomach and there on got pretty

ate

> > up during exposure. I do pretty good at controling it at least by

> > watching what I eat but even some inhaled exposures can upset it.

> > does that happen with your ulcer?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

it would be a few weeks before I find out and I can't garrentee I'll

be ib the shape to ask much of anything but I'll try if we cant get

the answer sooner.

> >

> > Branislav, this problem has been on my mind too, guess I well be

> > finding out shortly, it's going to be a bummer if I cant tolerate

CSM.

> > the mayo clinic was pretty foggy on just exactly what the

sore/cyst

> > in my stomach was but I know it get's aggervated/reinfected easy

and

> > goes on it cause inflamed bowels. never took asprin much, just

> > something caused by exposure, my stomach and there on got pretty

ate

> > up during exposure. I do pretty good at controling it at least by

> > watching what I eat but even some inhaled exposures can upset it.

> > does that happen with your ulcer?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have a doctor to ask this as I can't find anyone to

prescribe. However I had difficulty tolerating it and didn't take it

even after a trip all the way to MD to see Dr Shoemaker but a year

later I tried it and it was okay. I had had digestive problems. I

still have some. CSM has tiny fibers but so does many kinds of

foods. It may be hard to tell if it can be tolerated or not. There

are all kinds of fibers that lower cholesterol and Dr Shoemaker said

he found that things that lowered cholesterol, also helpe toxic

illness probably due to them all absorbing bile acids to some degree,

so oat bran, milk thistle and other things are all known to help

lower cholesterol by binding to bile acids. You could try those or

try the CSM after dissolving it longer in water, so the fibers are

softer. I think if you go by how you feel afterward, that might be

enough, but if anyone else can ask their doctor, that would be great

but I go by how my body reacts to things. You can also try the go

slowly routine. Start with a little and if that goes okay, use a

little more. I believe fibers do soften up a little if soaked.

>

> I had bleeding from a duodenal ulcer in February this year. It was

> most likely caused by overuse of aspirins.

>

[Guest guest]

Branislav,

Do a PubMed search on zinc carnosine.. Carnosine is very good for

healing/preventing ulcers, and also leaky gut...

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Branislav <arealis@...> wrote:

> Who,

>

> Officially my ulcer was caused by the overuse of aspirin (which

> belongs to the class of medicines known as Non Steroidal Anti

> Inflammatory Drugs (NSADIs). NSAIDs really can cause ulcers, in fact

> they are the 2nd cause of all ulcers (the first cause is helicobacter

> pilory bacteria).

>

> However, I agree with you - my feeling is that inhaling the irritative

> MVOCs and perhaps mycotoxins has at least aggravated the condition

> with my ulcer. Last year especially, I was exposed to massive amounts

> of some very irritating fumes from a building nearby and when I

> inhaled it, it felt as if it burned my digestive tract from the

> inside. So I have no doubt that that was also one of the causes.

>

> Please ask your doctors if people with duodenal ulcer (which is not

> detectable anymore with gastroscopy) can safely use CSM.

>

> -Branislav

>

>

>>

>> Branislav, this problem has been on my mind too, guess I well be

>> finding out shortly, it's going to be a bummer if I cant tolerate CSM.

>> the mayo clinic was pretty foggy on just exactly what the sore/cyst

>> in my stomach was but I know it get's aggervated/reinfected easy and

>> goes on it cause inflamed bowels. never took asprin much, just

>> something caused by exposure, my stomach and there on got pretty ate

>> up during exposure. I do pretty good at controling it at least by

>> watching what I eat but even some inhaled exposures can upset it.

>> does that happen with your ulcer?

>>

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