Re: To build or to buy exisiting?

[Guest guest]

I dont have any sights to look at on hand but I might recomend looking into a

metal building. I have seen some pretty creative homes while searching. It seems

therre are many options out there and yes it takes some time to weed them out

but if you are able to take the time this seems like the best option. ESPECIALLY

on any of the costal areas. But my goal is to do away with wood period.

Just a thought, anything labeled " green " right now is going to be expensive

because that is the new catch phrase and its not always what " we " need anyway.

Keep that in mind.

From: starfish1995 <starfish1995@...>

Subject: [] To build or to buy exisiting?

Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 2:05 PM

Hello,

I am new here and have a question. We are presently renting a house

and looking to either build a new healthy home or buy an existing

home and make it healthy. I have a 10 year old son with autism and

his health, reducing his toxic load, and reducing his exposure to

future toxicities is my primary motivation and goal.

We live in western, PA, about 25 miles outside of Pittsburgh.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your input. However I am getting conflicting opinions on

metal. One well known MCS advisor said to avoid it at all cots

because they attract EMFs. EMF pollution and sensitivity is a whole

other subject unto itself.

Thanks,

Beth

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> From: starfish1995 <starfish1995@...>

> Subject: [] To build or to buy exisiting?

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> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 2:05 PM

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> Hello,

>

> I am new here and have a question. We are presently renting a house

> and looking to either build a new healthy home or buy an existing

> home and make it healthy. I have a 10 year old son with autism and

> his health, reducing his toxic load, and reducing his exposure to

> future toxicities is my primary motivation and goal.

> We live in western, PA, about 25 miles outside of Pittsburgh.

>

[Guest guest]

Good God, are you serious. I am stumped then. Back to square one then I guess.

From: starfish1995 <starfish1995@...>

Subject: [] Re: To build or to buy exisiting?

Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 6:26 PM

Thanks for your input. However I am getting conflicting opinions on

metal. One well known MCS advisor said to avoid it at all cots

because they attract EMFs. EMF pollution and sensitivity is a whole

other subject unto itself.

Thanks,

Beth

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> From: starfish1995 <starfish1995@ ...>

> Subject: [] To build or to buy exisiting?

>

> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 2:05 PM

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>

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> Hello,

>

> I am new here and have a question. We are presently renting a house

> and looking to either build a new healthy home or buy an existing

> home and make it healthy. I have a 10 year old son with autism and

> his health, reducing his toxic load, and reducing his exposure to

> future toxicities is my primary motivation and goal.

> We live in western, PA, about 25 miles outside of Pittsburgh.

>

[Guest guest]

I was playing on line yesterday and found two sites that I think

might be helpful.

http://www.ehcd.com/books/home_building_designing.html

http://www.healthyhouseinstitute.com/

And unitedstatesvet is right, you want a healthy home not a green

home... green is for the planet, health is for people.

>

> I dont have any sights to look at on hand but I might recomend

looking into a metal building. I have seen some pretty creative homes

while searching. It seems therre are many options out there and yes

it takes some time to weed them out but if you are able to take the

time this seems like the best option. ESPECIALLY on any of the costal

areas. But my goal is to do away with wood period.

> Just a thought, anything labeled " green " right now is going to be

expensive because that is the new catch phrase and its not always

what " we " need anyway. Keep that in mind.

>

>

[Guest guest]

What is very popular in my coastal area are styrofoam form houses. I believe

they are

called Insulated Concrete Form Homes (IFC). Here's a good website to look at

what they

are:

http://www.icfhomes.com/

In a nutshell, they are hollow styrofoam blocks where they run rebarb (sp) then

pour

concrete into the shell.

Another thing they are doing is using blown polyurethane insulation onto the

roof deck.

Not on the attic floor. Here is a site where you can read about it. I can't

remember

whether they recommend closed or open cell actually

http://www.foam-tech.com/products/urethane_foam/open_closed_cell.htm

Using this type of insulation, the attic should be no more than 10 degree

difference from

the conditioned space of the house, so there is no condensation. The architects

say you

should run a few air vents into the attic as well.

I would NEVER BUY A PRE BUILT HOUSE. I bought a brand new house and mine is such

a

nightmare that I have to tear it down. These houses are not cheap, but I am

thinking of

rebuilding mine using this method.

Hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

So, are coastal areas good for not growing mold? I always thought the

opposite...

[Guest guest]

I've heard some say it helps, might depend on what area too. the

thought of a nice clean salty mist sounds pretty good to me. some

places might have problems with sand molds of a different kind than

what we have been exposed to, don't know much about them. if I could

afford to check it out I surely would.

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> So, are coastal areas good for not growing mold? I always thought

the opposite...

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[Guest guest]

I got very sick living on the West Coast, just a few miles inland..

The building had a serious stachy/asp-pen situation..

The AIR is very clean, though..

Just stay away from moldy buildings!

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:40 AM, who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

> I've heard some say it helps, might depend on what area too. the

> thought of a nice clean salty mist sounds pretty good to me. some

> places might have problems with sand molds of a different kind than

> what we have been exposed to, don't know much about them. if I could

> afford to check it out I surely would.

>

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>> So, are coastal areas good for not growing mold? I always thought

> the opposite...

[Guest guest]

Coastal areas are the ideal mold growing enviroment, especially when you are in

a badly

built building.

If you chose to live on the coast, a LOT of thought and planning should go into

the indoor

humidity levels and not just the conditioned living space. You need planning on

attic

space, etc.

Also, I would never purchase a pre built building on the coast. I would watch

everything

the builder does.

I have had such a nightmare with my home, which I purchased new, because of

construction defects. I have even had a nightmare renting a place until

decisions can be

made about my home. Rental agents have all decided I must be mad because I take

mold

people with me to inspect rental properties.

Air conditioners are down right gross when you start looking into them!

--- In , Michal <michalvictoria@...>

wrote:

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> So, are coastal areas good for not growing mold? I always thought the

opposite...

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[Guest guest]

lol's, mold people, HEY! STEVEN KING,WHERE ARE YOU? a true nightmare

based on true storys, how much better could it get? this could be the

story line, a town over took by toxic molds and everyone starts

acting really insane but it affects the lawyers,doctors,judges and

toxic chemical companies the worst because in a effort th denie it

they unknownly get the worst expose by a super bugged toxic mold that

attacks liers and the towns people haveing tooken it more seriously

in the begenning were less effected and have to fight off these

rageing lunatic's and only the few oncluding 1 good scientest that

tried to forwarn everyone and the few that believed him servive.

sounds like a classic steven king movie to me.

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> > So, are coastal areas good for not growing mold? I always

thought the opposite...

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[Guest guest]

oh, forgot the ACOEM guy's in the beginning of the movie who are the

ones that tell everyone that this mold cant hurt them, they are the

first ones to get affected and the first ones that had to be killed

and these is how the good scientest dicovers whats turning these

people into ate up infested monster zombies, and if they touch you

your skin instantly starts rotting.

[Guest guest]

oh, and also a important part of the movie, the good scientest discover

that that toxic mold had actually mutated because of the chemicals that

this toxic chemical company was produceing and spaying on crops around

this farming community and of corse after the few sevivers get away and

make it out of this nightmare that has accured in this small town they

think they are safe but apon entering the next town down the road they

find out it wasn't confind to their town, THE END.