Re: McCain and Obama on Autism (ASD)

[Guest guest]

I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving target. ÊThe kinds of autism change and the responses change as we treat and study together. Ê( .ca ­ California ) ÊThat is not disrespectful. Politicians regulate; they do not do much innovation if they wish to stay in office; which leaves it to us and some researchers who are not tied up in industry directed work.It's primarily our responsibility - Prime Ministers & Presidents have to learn how to listen to us in about the same proportion as the votes coming from industry, academia & us. ÊMoney & Science must be seen as responsibility -- not as extra voting power. ÊARI developed from patients and doctors listening to each other; that is a worthy tool for humanity to get over the Great Depression of 2009; with the Great Health Fiascos of the 1950's onwards: all together.On 23-Oct-08, at 7:32 AM, , Ind. Supervisor with Sensaria Natural Bodycare wrote:Becky Estepp wrote a great article on her responses from the politicians on vaccinations and Autism (ASD).http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/10/mccain-addresse.html

[Guest guest]

---I am working with a senator from my state now. We are getting a

bill together now asking for more help with autism. Trying to get

more covered with insurance. He is going before the insurance

comissioner today. I believe if we all work at it. From whatever

level we can. We can make a difference. We cant stand by and do

nothing. In mb12 valtrex , Wade

wrote:

>

> I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our

> politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving target.

The

> kinds of autism change and the responses change as we treat and

study

> together. ( .ca ­ California ) That is not disrespectful.

> Politicians regulate; they do not do much innovation if they wish

to

> stay in office; which leaves it to us and some researchers who are

> not tied up in industry directed work.

>

> It's primarily our responsibility - Prime Ministers & Presidents

have

> to learn how to listen to us in about the same proportion as the

> votes coming from industry, academia & us. Money & Science must

be

> seen as responsibility -- not as extra voting power.

>

> ARI developed from patients and doctors listening to each other;

that

> is a worthy tool for humanity to get over the Great Depression of

> 2009; with the Great Health Fiascos of the 1950's onwards: all

together.

>

>

>

>

> On 23-Oct-08, at 7:32 AM, , Ind. Supervisor with

Sensaria

> Natural Bodycare wrote:

>

> > Becky Estepp wrote a great article on her responses from the

> > politicians on vaccinations and Autism (ASD).

> >

> > http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/10/mccain-addresse.html

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's true, too !   !G---I am working with a senator from my state now. We are getting a bill together now asking for more help with autism. Trying to get more covered with insurance. He is going before the insurance comissioner today. I believe if we all work at it. From whatever level we can. We can make a difference. We can't stand by and do nothing. In mb12 valtrex , Wade  wrote:>> I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our > politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving target. The  kinds of autism change and the responses change

[Guest guest]

Sadly, in our state, South Carolina, we did get a law passed (after an arduous 2-year battle) to get insurance coverage for ABA, speech, OT, etc for kids with autism, but the bill that got passed was so watered down that it barely helps anyone.

My husband is a federal gov employee. His insurance isn't required to cover it since it's considered and out of state employer; I used to work for a bank with 200 employees, and the insurance there did not have to cover it, since this bank pooled resources with other community banks to have a network of coverage, and for some reason that excused them from covering it. I've met several other parents who work in different types of companies or organizations, and none - for one reason or another - have gotten insurance coverage.

Our governor, a " no government intervention " Republican, actually vetoed the bill requiring insurance coverage for autism, but his veto was overturned by the state legislators.

He has now used the insurance coverage as an excuse to cut PDD waiver funding by 70%, stating that insurance now covers autism, so the waiver is not needed.

My son was on a waiting list for a year and half for PDD waiver and may have gotten it in another year. Now it looks like he may never get it.

Incidentally, when the governor vetoed the insurance coverage, he sent letters to everyone who had written him requesting that he pass the legislation; he said he simply did not believe in government mandates of any kind on companies, and did not believe it was fair that other families' insurance rates should go up because a few families, like ours, would benefit. (We had clear data to dispute this; that, in fact, rates would rise none at all or be negligible; plus, insurance companies had made record profits the preceding year, so why did they have to raise rates? Couldn't they just " eat it " ?)

The governor added in his letter, however, that he admired our families and was " praying for us. "

While McCain and Palin, like our governor, are Christians and probably also have sympathy for what our kids go through, they share the SC state governor's philosophy of " less government, " and their records illustrate this. (For example, McCain, a vet, has voted repeatedly against health and other services for vets.)

McCain also voted numerous times against a bill to provide health insurance for uninsured children. He has also said clearly in the debates that he would cut out all government spending for anything, except very basic services and veteran's benefits, He has also voted against expanding medicaid benefits for children (something that could have helped all kids from a federal level, and may have saved us from having to fight so hard, state by state, for any funding.)

So, while McCain and Palin and are governor are probably good people, I just disagree with thier basic philosophy.

While I feel that government should not spend money frivolously, I feel that helping our kids is not just an investment in their future but an investment in our entire country's future, and a role that government should definitely play.

I also believe that, since I pay for health insurance, my child has just as much right as a child with any other medical condition to receiver coverage, and if the insurance companies aren't willing to do it, government should step in and make them.

Obama's plans would not go as far in helping our children as I would like, but he has a very different philosophy from McCain's and would do a whole lot more to help our kids.

I hope I have not offended anyone with this, but I just wanted to share my experience in this state, and why I'm voting the way I am.

P.S. -- for anyone who's starting a fight in their state to get insurance coverage for autism, Lori Unumb, the woman in who spearheaded the effort here in SC, has concuted workshops for parents in other states. If you would like her contact information I can get it for you.

Yes, that's true, too ! ! G

---I am working with a senator from my state now. We are getting a bill together now asking for more help with autism. Trying to get more covered with insurance. He is going before the insurance

comissioner today. I believe if we all work at it. From whatever level we can. We can make a difference. We can't stand by and do nothing. In mb12 valtrex , Wade wrote:>> I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our

> politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving target. The kinds of autism change and the responses change

[Guest guest]

My Vote is Obama!

" Robin Broyles " wrote:

>

> Sadly, in our state, South Carolina, we did get a law passed (after

an

> arduous 2-year battle) to get insurance coverage for ABA, speech,

OT, etc

> for kids with autism, but the bill that got passed was so watered

down that

> it barely helps anyone.

>

> My husband is a federal gov employee. His insurance isn't required

to cover

> it since it's considered and out of state employer; I used to work

for a

> bank with 200 employees, and the insurance there did not have to

cover it,

> since this bank pooled resources with other community banks to have

a

> network of coverage, and for some reason that excused them from

covering

> it. I've met several other parents who work in different types of

companies

> or organizations, and none - for one reason or another - have gotten

> insurance coverage.

>

> Our governor, a " no government intervention " Republican, actually

vetoed

> the bill requiring insurance coverage for autism, but his veto was

> overturned by the state legislators.

>

> He has now used the insurance coverage as an excuse to cut PDD

> waiver funding by 70%, stating that insurance now covers autism, so

the

> waiver is not needed.

>

> My son was on a waiting list for a year and half for PDD waiver and

may have

> gotten it in another year. Now it looks like he may never get it.

>

> Incidentally, when the governor vetoed the insurance coverage, he

sent

> letters to everyone who had written him requesting that he pass the

> legislation; he said he simply did not believe in government

mandates of any

> kind on companies, and did not believe it was fair that other

families'

> insurance rates should go up because a few families, like ours,

would

> benefit. (We had clear data to dispute this; that, in fact, rates

would rise

> none at all or be negligible; plus, insurance companies had made

record

> profits the preceding year, so why did they have to raise rates?

Couldn't

> they just " eat it " ?)

>

> The governor added in his letter, however, that he admired our

families and

> was " praying for us. "

>

> While McCain and Palin, like our governor, are Christians and

probably also

> have sympathy for what our kids go through, they share the SC state

> governor's philosophy of " less government, " and their records

illustrate

> this. (For example, McCain, a vet, has voted repeatedly against

health and

> other services for vets.)

>

> McCain also voted numerous times against a bill to provide health

insurance

> for uninsured children. He has also said clearly in the debates

that he

> would cut out all government spending for anything, except very

basic

> services and veteran's benefits, He has also voted against

expanding

> medicaid benefits for children (something that could have helped

all kids

> from a federal level, and may have saved us from having to fight so

hard,

> state by state, for any funding.)

>

> So, while McCain and Palin and are governor are probably good

people, I just

> disagree with thier basic philosophy.

>

> While I feel that government should not spend money frivolously, I

feel that

> helping our kids is not just an investment in their future but an

investment

> in our entire country's future, and a role that government should

definitely

> play.

>

> I also believe that, since I pay for health insurance, my child has

just as

> much right as a child with any other medical condition to receiver

coverage,

> and if the insurance companies aren't willing to do it, government

should

> step in and make them.

>

> Obama's plans would not go as far in helping our children as I

would like,

> but he has a very different philosophy from McCain's and would do a

whole

> lot more to help our kids.

>

> I hope I have not offended anyone with this, but I just wanted to

share my

> experience in this state, and why I'm voting the way I am.

>

> P.S. -- for anyone who's starting a fight in their state to get

insurance

> coverage for autism, Lori Unumb, the woman in who spearheaded the

effort

> here in SC, has concuted workshops for parents in other states. If

you would

> like her contact information I can get it for you.

>

>

>

> > Yes, that's true, too ! ! G

> >

> >

> >

> > ---I am working with a senator from my state now. We are

getting a

> > bill together now asking for more help with autism. Trying to get

> > more covered with insurance. He is going before the insurance

> > comissioner today. *I believe if we all work at it. From

whatever** *

> > *

> > level we can. We can make a difference.* We can't stand by and do

> > nothing. In mb12 valtrex <mb12 valtrex%

40yahoogroups.com>,

> > Wade <georgewade@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our

> > > politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving target.

> > The kinds of autism change and the responses change

> >

> >

> >

>

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From:

My Vote is Obama!

===>I don't care about either of them, but Obama is *not* for selective immunizations, has said so.

I'll bring something to the list to read.

"Robin Broyles" wrote:>> Sadly, in our state, South Carolina, we did get a law passed (after an> arduous 2-year battle) to get insurance coverage for ABA, speech, OT, etc> for kids with autism, but the bill that got passed was so watered down that> it barely helps anyone.> > My husband is a federal gov employee. His insurance isn't required to cover> it since it's considered and out of state employer; I used to work for a> bank with 200 employees, and the insurance there did not have to cover it,> since this bank pooled resources with other community banks to have a> network of coverage, and for some reason that excused them from covering> it. I've met several other parents who work in different types of companies> or organizations, and none - for one reason or another - have gotten> insurance coverage.> > Our governor, a "no government intervention" Republican, actually vetoed> the bill requiring insurance coverage for autism, but his veto was> overturned by the state legislators.> > He has now used the insurance coverage as an excuse to cut PDD> waiver funding by 70%, stating that insurance now covers autism, so the> waiver is not needed.> > My son was on a waiting list for a year and half for PDD waiver and may have> gotten it in another year. Now it looks like he may never get it.> > Incidentally, when the governor vetoed the insurance coverage, he sent> letters to everyone who had written him requesting that he pass the> legislation; he said he simply did not believe in government mandates of any> kind on companies, and did not believe it was fair that other families'> insurance rates should go up because a few families, like ours, would> benefit. (We had clear data to dispute this; that, in fact, rates would rise> none at all or be negligible; plus, insurance companies had made record> profits the preceding year, so why did they have to raise rates? Couldn't> they just "eat it"?)> > The governor added in his letter, however, that he admired our families and> was "praying for us."> > While McCain and Palin, like our governor, are Christians and probably also> have sympathy for what our kids go through, they share the SC state> governor's philosophy of "less government," and their records illustrate> this. (For example, McCain, a vet, has voted repeatedly against health and> other services for vets.)> > McCain also voted numerous times against a bill to provide health insurance> for uninsured children. He has also said clearly in the debates that he> would cut out all government spending for anything, except very basic> services and veteran's benefits, He has also voted against expanding> medicaid benefits for children (something that could have helped all kids> from a federal level, and may have saved us from having to fight so hard,> state by state, for any funding.)> > So, while McCain and Palin and are governor are probably good people, I just> disagree with thier basic philosophy.> > While I feel that government should not spend money frivolously, I feel that> helping our kids is not just an investment in their future but an investment> in our entire country's future, and a role that government should definitely> play.> > I also believe that, since I pay for health insurance, my child has just as> much right as a child with any other medical condition to receiver coverage,> and if the insurance companies aren't willing to do it, government should> step in and make them.> > Obama's plans would not go as far in helping our children as I would like,> but he has a very different philosophy from McCain's and would do a whole> lot more to help our kids.> > I hope I have not offended anyone with this, but I just wanted to share my> experience in this state, and why I'm voting the way I am.> > P.S. -- for anyone who's starting a fight in their state to get insurance> coverage for autism, Lori Unumb, the woman in who spearheaded the effort> here in SC, has concuted workshops for parents in other states. If you would> like her contact information I can get it for you.> > > > > Yes, that's true, too ! ! G> >> > > >> > ---I am working with a senator from my state now. We are getting a> > bill together now asking for more help with autism. Trying to get> > more covered with insurance. He is going before the insurance> > comissioner today. *I believe if we all work at it. From whatever** *> > *> > level we can. We can make a difference.* We can't stand by and do> > nothing. In mb12 valtrex <mb12 valtrex%40yahoogroups.com>,> > Wade <georgewade@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our> > > politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving target.> > The kinds of autism change and the responses change> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to post that Palin gave a policy address on

children with special needs this morning in Pittsburgh.

Google it and listen and see if it is in deed what you are hoping to

hear from the canadates on this issue.

> > > >

> > > > I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our

> > > > politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving

target.

> > > The kinds of autism change and the responses change

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is really Sad to hear that about SC. When I first heard that the Bill passed, i was so encouraged; I hoped that GA would follow their lead but when I started hearing how kids with Autism still aren't covered in SC, I just got so disgusted.

>> I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our > politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving target. The kinds of autism change and the responses change

[Guest guest]

She commented on the terrible waste of time doing fruit fly research

not realizing the studies were for Autism were successful. Please

research this before you conclude she can fully fund the IDEA by cutting out

fruit fly studies.

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Subject: Re: McCain and Obama on Autism (ASD)

I just wanted to post that Palin gave a

policy address on

children with special needs this morning in Pittsburgh.

Google it and listen and see if it is in deed what you are hoping to

hear from the canadates on this issue.

> > > >

> > > > I feel strongly that this is too complex a problem for our

> > > > politicians or for yours: especially as it is a moving

target.

> > > The kinds of autism change and the responses change

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>