Re: Asbestos in sick buildings

July 5, 2008

I jsut found out from a mold tester who just came back from an EPA training

seminar on asbestos that it has NEVER been banned.....it's still being used

only under a different name.....

July 5, 2008

it's weird. years ago I had to go over to UNLV to pick up something in the

admin building. As soon as I walked in there it felt like I was inhaling

razors in my mouth. I couldn't figure it out, so I immediately put a tissue

over my face and went in, when I got to the office I was heading I found out

that 3 days prior they did asbestos remidation. So apparently even with all

the

" precautions " there are floating fibers that remain for days!

Took about 24 hours for the " cuts " to abate.

July 5, 2008

The only health effect I know of from asbestos is lung cancer.

Google asbestos for more detailed information. Also, OSHA

strictly governs asbestos as does the state of California.

California (and Colorado) has the strictest laws about who can

test and who can remove asbestos. Their web sites also address

health effects.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> Anyone exposed to asbestos in their sick building? Anyone know

> firsthand about the symptoms? My shoulder/arm tore really easily in Dec.

> when I put down the truck of my vehicle.Extreme pain for months! I

> have lots of lumps all up and down the arm. Don't know if it is stuck

> lymph problems, autoimmune issues kicking in with shoulder involvement

> or asbestos related problems. Can't move the arm to wash hair, shift

> the car, etc. ER doctor says maybe frozen shoulder. I know it takes a

> while for asbestos issues to show up. I've been out of the sick,

> asbestos-laden building for four years. Anyone been to any doctors in

> northern CA or elsewhere, who can test for asbestos exposures?

>

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> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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July 6, 2008

If asbestos remediation was done according to federal and state

regulations, the site surfaces and air would were required to be

tested " clean " before people would be allowed in.

Yes, fibers can float for days, so if what was assulting your mouth

was asbestos then the remediation was not done properly.

Asbestos is one of the substances highly regulated and highly

tested before clearance is given. People have gone to federal

prision for failing to do so.

The asbestos situation, while far from perfect, is not the wild, wild

west like mold is.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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>

> it's weird. years ago I had to go over to UNLV to pick up something in the

> admin building. As soon as I walked in there it felt like I was inhaling

> razors in my mouth. I couldn't figure it out, so I immediately put a tissue

> over my face and went in, when I got to the office I was heading I found out

> that 3 days prior they did asbestos remidation. So apparently even with all

the

> " precautions " there are floating fibers that remain for days!

>

> Took about 24 hours for the " cuts " to abate.

>

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>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

July 6, 2008

It has been banned for new materials in the US but not for

materials from other countries. Therefore, there is no certainty

that ANY material installed is free of asbestos until it is tested.

Many states are requiring inspectors and workers be licensed

and certified by the State. There are also OSHA requirments for

the workers.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> I jsut found out from a mold tester who just came back from an EPA training

> seminar on asbestos that it has NEVER been banned.....it's still being used

> only under a different name.....

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

July 6, 2008

Hi Carl,

There are also many other building materials that have similar health effects to

asbestos fibers - and are legal. Here is the direction of one of the foremost

experts on these matters:

R. Harbut, MD, MPH, FCCP

CoDirector, National Center for Vermiculite and Asbestos-Related Cancers

Karmanos Cancer Institute

Wayne State University

Chief, Center for Occupational and Environmental Medicine

118 N. Washington

Royal Oak, Michigan 48067-1751

248.547.9100

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wrote:

[Asbestos]... has been banned for new materials in the US but not for

materials from other countries. Therefore, there is no certainty

that ANY material installed is free of asbestos until it is tested.

Many states are requiring inspectors and workers be licensed

and certified by the State. There are also OSHA requirments for

the workers.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

July 6, 2008

I was exposed to insulation in my house airbourne and it caused

intense itching of skin, irritation to my eyes and throat, coughing.

It was mineral wool but any tiny particles airbourne that you breath

can be dangerous to your health. Even though all insulation was

vacuumed out of attic and filters added and air much cleaner I

continue to have easily irritated throat, no matter where I am, home

or work or out. I think unfortunately this will be life long problem

as tiny particles get embedded in your tissue and stay there. From

my reading on asbestos that is what happens so I would think you

would have some symptoms in your airways, nose, throat, lung. I

would think skin also just logically but perhaps some people have

less sensitive skin than me. I know someone who is in indoor air

field that deal alot with fiberglass and think someday it will be

considered a health hazard as aesbestos is now, and we all have it

everywhere.

Here are some links to info on asbestos. One to American Lung

association near the bottom of page would probably be good source:

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/asbestos/

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> Anyone exposed to asbestos in their sick building? Anyone know

> firsthand about the symptoms? My shoulder/arm tore really easily in

July 6, 2008

I agree with Carl. Asbestosis is strictly a lung disease. The mayo clinic site

is very helpful in finding out about many different health conditions, including

asbestosis...

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/asbestosis/DS00482/DSECTION=symptoms

Ginger

AKA allergy girl

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