dr marinkovich patient seeks new mold dr and nizoral spray

[Guest guest]

hi there

is there a dr compounding the nizoral nasal spray dr marinckovich used

to make?

What mold drs are people using now instead of dr M?

I am in santa barbara, but will have to go whereever

My mold is internal from a rootcanal and so I am very sick.

thanks, amy

[Guest guest]

How do you get internal mold from a root canal? Thanks.

>

> hi there

>

> is there a dr compounding the nizoral nasal spray dr marinckovich used

> to make?

>

> What mold drs are people using now instead of dr M?

>

> I am in santa barbara, but will have to go whereever

>

> My mold is internal from a rootcanal and so I am very sick.

>

> thanks, amy

>

[Guest guest]

The closet good one to you is Dr Gray in AZ. 

From: jill1313 <jenbooks13@...>

Subject: [] Re: dr marinkovich patient seeks new mold dr and

nizoral spray

Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 7:16 AM

How do you get internal mold from a root canal? Thanks.

>

> hi there

>

> is there a dr compounding the nizoral nasal spray dr marinckovich used

> to make?

>

> What mold drs are people using now instead of dr M?

>

> I am in santa barbara, but will have to go whereever

>

> My mold is internal from a rootcanal and so I am very sick.

>

> thanks, amy

>

[Guest guest]

I think she is probably talking about an fungal infection that got

into her blood stream, like " systemic candidiasis " or " invasive

candidiasis "

Or aspergillosis.. or mucormycosis.

There are hundreds of fungi that can survive in the body.. i.e.

" colonize " the body..

Any immune-suppressed person who does not already have one, and

especially those who do, needs to watch out for anything that

diisrupts the integrity of their barriers to infection. Even just a

cut.

A leaky gut or reflux would also allow a lot of fungi and bacteria

into your body which your body would either expend a huge amount of

energy fighting off, or succumb to.

When you are immune suppressed *which mold will do to you* ANY WOUND,

in your nose, lungs, GI tract, tooth, etc. is a potential source of

life-threatening infections.

Many people continue to fight systemic fungal infections for years,

often, ther entire lives, even when they are no longer in mold-land,

as they can be very hard to throw off.

Once its in your blood, all the diets in the world won't help you. You

need IV antifungal therapy.

And doctors who understand them.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:16 AM, jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote:

> How do you get internal mold from a root canal? Thanks.

>

>

>>

>> hi there

>>

>> is there a dr compounding the nizoral nasal spray dr marinckovich used

>> to make?

>>

>> What mold drs are people using now instead of dr M?

>>

>> I am in santa barbara, but will have to go whereever

>>

>> My mold is internal from a rootcanal and so I am very sick.

>>

>> thanks, amy

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Live, you mean things like Sporonax by IV? I hear there is no end to

that sometimes. Is that true, it goes on and on and on, or do some

people take it short time and then it's over?

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

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> Once its in your blood, all the diets in the world won't help you. You

> need IV antifungal therapy.

> And doctors who understand them.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

If that is the case, she needs qualified medical help.

Systemic infections of ANY kind are dangerous conditions!

You must realize that...

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:55 PM, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

> Live, you mean things like Sporonax by IV? I hear there is no end to

> that sometimes. Is that true, it goes on and on and on, or do some

> people take it short time and then it's over?

>

>

>

>>

>> Once its in your blood, all the diets in the world won't help you. You

>> need IV antifungal therapy.

>> And doctors who understand them.

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When you are immune suppressed *which mold will do to you* ANY WOUND,

Live, I think this is just wrong, nold does not suppress the immune

system, and maybe only a few mycotoxins suppress certin immune

functions and maybe those are the ones used in some immune

suppressing drugs but maybe rarely if ever found in DMB exposures.

maybe the thought that mycotoxins suppress the immune system came

from the fack that while patients who are haveing organ transplants

or chemo are given drugs to suppress their immune systems and that

allows fungal infections to accure and colonize in some casses. some

of these patients do fine and their immune functions return to normal

after the immune suppressing drugs are stoped. if mold suppressed

peoples immune system everyone would be fighting fungal infections

everywhere, I pray it doesn't get to that point. before I even went

to Shoemaker I was quesrioning the whole suppression theory because

it didn't make sence, if our immune system were suppressed how could

we than end up with immune related problems after exposure and I knew

the innate immune system wasn't suppressed it was working overtime. I

can see how there may be some differences in very low or very high

does exposures that may cause some immune functions to be suppressed

but not the while immune system and that may be caused more by out

own immune functions, not the mold itself. from what I'm

understanding, fungal infections can happen when there are immune

disirders and deficiencies, a healty person would undergo a innate

immune reaction first in these exposures but difenitly could end up

with immune disfunctions,disorders and deficiencies with moderate or

high chronic or acute exposures. chemicals and toxins that are not

infectious cause inflamation not infection, there has to be immune

compermizes that allow fungal infections to take hold in the body and

to colonize. I was diagnosed with type 2 cytotoxic level of Candida A.

however I dont constantly have a candida A. infection from it but

further exposures can make me pretty ill,with inflamation caused by

the mycotoxins. I am listening to my body and although it may be

really hard to reconize the difference between inflamation and

infection my trip force me to look at this in a different way and I'm

so glad I thought enough to ask Shoemaker that one question that had

been bugging me quite a bit because I now realize that like my feet

and hands and the rest of my body was reacting to toxic overload, the

burning and sweating of bad smells was toxins trying to come out and

I realize that these symptoms are the same weather it's trying to

come out from my womanly parts, urine,bowel,skin,or brain. I had bad

exposure to several types of mycotoxins,voc's and man make chemicals,

I'm very reactive to them all. I also know that my advoidance and

washing my sinuses has help my body heal some because a few years ago

I never would of made it to Shoemakers and back without getting in a

whellchair and I didn't get to that point, it got close. I also know

that because of the level of damage I suffered trying to rejoin the

real world would put me right back to where I was and chances are it

well always be that way. but because of the liver damage the csm will

at least help get the toxins out and keeping the toxic load down well

help me to tolerate the re-accureing exposures as log as they are not

real bad. for those with lesser organ damage and immune system damage

the csm may be all they need for a good recovery. for those with

immune deficiencies or secondary immune

deficiecies,aids,diabetes,ect. they no dought may need antifungals, I

am probably in the borderline area. to many unanswered questions

about the immune system.

[Guest guest]

if you recall converstation about felling better went leaveing the

moldy invironment, one of those immedite sustems of exposure is the

inflamation from toxin exposure that eases up when you leave, ah, the

reason why during the first few years of exposure it was so hard to

get any doctor to see that the inflamation in my back was makeong me

so dang misserable. it would dectease in intencity by the time I got

there. wasn't until later years when it started sticking around a

little longer and was noticed by a few doctors. ps, Love, I didn't

get on disability because of my work injury to my lower back that

happened only a few months before my mold exposure started. I got a

15 percent rateing on that because the added back inflamation from my

exposure was not reconized. I got on disablity after my exposure in

the second home because I was diagnosed with PTSD.

[Guest guest]

Live, Who is 'she', that you are speaking about??

> > Live, are you referring to things like Sporonax by IV? I hear

there is no end to that sometimes. Is that true, it goes on and on and

on, or do some people take it short time and then it's over?