Re: WANT TO SHARE SOME DEPO TESTIMONY W/YOU ALL DR. KELMAN

[Guest guest]

Yes. It does. They are quite similar to little Leprechauns that you have

to ask the exact right question before you get the pot of gold, or in this

case, the Truth about science!!!!

Sharon

In a message dated 8/5/2008 9:28:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

quackadillian@... writes:

This directly contradicts their misleading propaganda..T

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:29 AM, <_snk1955@..._ (mailto:snk1955@...)

> wrote:

> 12:19:56 20 Q Has anyone -- can you cite to one

>

> 21 published peer-reviewed paper that concludes that

>

> 22 mycotoxins in an indoor environment could not reach

>

> 23 a level to cause human illness besides the ACOEM

>

> 24 statement?

>

> 12:20:18 25 A The ACOEM statement doesn't say that

>

>

> 318

>

> 1 either. I couldn't cite to any paper that says

>

> 2 that because it's not true.

>

> 3 MR. SCHEUER: Excuse me. Could I have the

>

> 4 question and answer read back, please.

>

> 12:20:28 5 (Record read as follows:

>

> 6 " QUESTION: Has anyone -- can you

>

> 7 cite to one published peer-reviewed paper

>

> 8 that concludes that mycotoxins in an indoor

>

> 9 environment could not reach a level to

>

> 12:20:16 10 cause human illness besides the ACOEM

>

> 11 statement?

>

> 12 " ANSWER: The ACOEM statement doesn't

>

> 13 say that either. I couldn't cite to any

>

> 14 paper that says that because it's not

>

> 12:20:26 15 true. " )

>

> 16 BY MR. BANDLOW:

>

> 17 Q It could reach sufficient levels in an

>

> 18 indoor environment, but it's typically your

>

> 19 testimony it has to be extremely high levels?

>

> 12:21:04 20 A Well, we can calculate an upper limit what

>

> 21 could be present and when the upper limit is too

>

> 22 low to cause any adverse effects, then the answer

>

> 23 is, no, it's extremely unlikely that it's causing

>

> 24 any adverse effects. If you were to get to, say,

>

> 12:21:20 25 grain levels of concentration, of course, that's

>

>

> 319

>

>

> 1 part of dose response; that's possible.

>

> 2 Q Has anyone replicated and peer-review

>

> 3 published the math calculations while concluding

>

> 4 human illness from exposure to inhaled mycotoxins

>

> 12:21:44 5 in water damaged buildings is highly unlikely at

>

> 6 best?

>

> 7 MR. SCHEUER: Objection; asked and

>

> 8 answered in the prior session of this deposition.

>

> 9 I'll permit the witness to answer it

>

> 12:21:52 10 again.

>

> 11 THE WITNESS: I've never seen those

>

> 12 precise words nor would I expect anyone to

>

> 13 precisely say the same thing. The idea is

>

> 14 certainly there.

>

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[Guest guest]

This directly contradicts their misleading propaganda...

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:29 AM, <snk1955@...> wrote:

> 12:19:56 20 Q Has anyone -- can you cite to one

>

> 21 published peer-reviewed paper that concludes that

>

> 22 mycotoxins in an indoor environment could not reach

>

> 23 a level to cause human illness besides the ACOEM

>

> 24 statement?

>

> 12:20:18 25 A The ACOEM statement doesn't say that

>

>

> 318

>

> 1 either. I couldn't cite to any paper that says

>

> 2 that because it's not true.

>

> 3 MR. SCHEUER: Excuse me. Could I have the

>

> 4 question and answer read back, please.

>

> 12:20:28 5 (Record read as follows:

>

> 6 " QUESTION: Has anyone -- can you

>

> 7 cite to one published peer-reviewed paper

>

> 8 that concludes that mycotoxins in an indoor

>

> 9 environment could not reach a level to

>

> 12:20:16 10 cause human illness besides the ACOEM

>

> 11 statement?

>

> 12 " ANSWER: The ACOEM statement doesn't

>

> 13 say that either. I couldn't cite to any

>

> 14 paper that says that because it's not

>

> 12:20:26 15 true. " )

>

> 16 BY MR. BANDLOW:

>

> 17 Q It could reach sufficient levels in an

>

> 18 indoor environment, but it's typically your

>

> 19 testimony it has to be extremely high levels?

>

> 12:21:04 20 A Well, we can calculate an upper limit what

>

> 21 could be present and when the upper limit is too

>

> 22 low to cause any adverse effects, then the answer

>

> 23 is, no, it's extremely unlikely that it's causing

>

> 24 any adverse effects. If you were to get to, say,

>

> 12:21:20 25 grain levels of concentration, of course, that's

>

>

> 319

>

>

> 1 part of dose response; that's possible.

>

> 2 Q Has anyone replicated and peer-review

>

> 3 published the math calculations while concluding

>

> 4 human illness from exposure to inhaled mycotoxins

>

> 12:21:44 5 in water damaged buildings is highly unlikely at

>

> 6 best?

>

> 7 MR. SCHEUER: Objection; asked and

>

> 8 answered in the prior session of this deposition.

>

> 9 I'll permit the witness to answer it

>

> 12:21:52 10 again.

>

> 11 THE WITNESS: I've never seen those

>

> 12 precise words nor would I expect anyone to

>

> 13 precisely say the same thing. The idea is

>

> 14 certainly there.

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hallelujah!! The truth allways comes out.  Wow, Way to go Sharon!!!

> 12:19:56 20 Q Has anyone -- can you cite to one

>

> 21 published peer-reviewed paper that concludes that

>

> 22 mycotoxins in an indoor environment could not reach

>

> 23 a level to cause human illness besides the ACOEM

>

> 24 statement?

>

> 12:20:18 25 A The ACOEM statement doesn't say that

>

>

> 318

>

> 1 either. I couldn't cite to any paper that says

>

> 2 that because it's not true.

>

> 3 MR. SCHEUER: Excuse me. Could I have the

>

> 4 question and answer read back, please.

>

> 12:20:28 5 (Record read as follows:

>

> 6 " QUESTION: Has anyone -- can you

>

> 7 cite to one published peer-reviewed paper

>

> 8 that concludes that mycotoxins in an indoor

>

> 9 environment could not reach a level to

>

> 12:20:16 10 cause human illness besides the ACOEM

>

> 11 statement?

>

> 12 " ANSWER: The ACOEM statement doesn't

>

> 13 say that either. I couldn't cite to any

>

> 14 paper that says that because it's not

>

> 12:20:26 15 true. " )

>

> 16 BY MR. BANDLOW:

>

> 17 Q It could reach sufficient levels in an

>

> 18 indoor environment, but it's typically your

>

> 19 testimony it has to be extremely high levels?

>

> 12:21:04 20 A Well, we can calculate an upper limit what

>

> 21 could be present and when the upper limit is too

>

> 22 low to cause any adverse effects, then the answer

>

> 23 is, no, it's extremely unlikely that it's causing

>

> 24 any adverse effects. If you were to get to, say,

>

> 12:21:20 25 grain levels of concentration, of course, that's

>

>

> 319

>

>

> 1 part of dose response; that's possible.

>

> 2 Q Has anyone replicated and peer-review

>

> 3 published the math calculations while concluding

>

> 4 human illness from exposure to inhaled mycotoxins

>

> 12:21:44 5 in water damaged buildings is highly unlikely at

>

> 6 best?

>

> 7 MR. SCHEUER: Objection; asked and

>

> 8 answered in the prior session of this deposition.

>

> 9 I'll permit the witness to answer it

>

> 12:21:52 10 again.

>

> 11 THE WITNESS: I've never seen those

>

> 12 precise words nor would I expect anyone to

>

> 13 precisely say the same thing. The idea is

>

> 14 certainly there.

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

hehe, think I will print this out and frame it and hang it right

beside the mold rush picture.

[Guest guest]

Wish I could be sitting there in the court room watching this case.

Bless you Sharon. -

-- In , snk1955@... wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Hey Sharon....LOL.... can you send a copy to the guy at LA Weekly and

his Lawyer Friend.....and hmmm I think the indangered species just had

a new entry..... CROW

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